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2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 5 - The KD era begins

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What do you think our chances are of winning the West and the Championship if we win the West?

20-30% we win west, 70-80% someone else in field does
6
10%
30-40% we win west, 60-70% someone else in field does
12
19%
40-50% we win west, 50-60% someone else in field does
7
11%
Greater than 50% we win west, less than 50% someone else in field does
5
8%
IF we win west, 50/50 chance we win vs east team
17
27%
IF we win west, greater than 50% chance we win vs east team
8
13%
IF we win west, less than 50% chance we win vs east team
7
11%
 
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Post#2301 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:57 pm

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So BOTH of Paul and Durant have expressed interest in Melo?
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Post#2302 » by Revived » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:00 am

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Who among them is able to guard Zion? That is the most important question. :noway:

Stanley Johnson probably has the best mobility and strength combo of that group to stick on Zion but even then it’s still massive advantage in Zion’s favor because of his talent.
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Post#2303 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:02 am

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Head's up Slim!


If we manage to swap Monty for Snyder the possibilities are endless. That could set us for a possible dynasty or at least two rings in next 3 years. Slim would be satisfied to the fullest with Ayton still here and Snyder leading the charge.

Have you ever thought if we did not have Monty that we would not have Chris Paul or Kevin Durant on the Suns? I think Book would probably be with another team as well. Say what you want about Monty, but he saved the Suns ass - from being the most embarrassing team in the league to one of the most respected. It’s pretty sad how some fans do not understand the impact he’s had in Phoenix. Every good thing the Suns have going right now is because of Monty but let’s ship him for a coach who could not do crap in the playoffs. Synder did a great job with managing Mitchell and Gobert, too. Solid choice!


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Monty's not going anywhere! At least not this year and most likely not as long as Durant's here either. I still think he could really benefit by us adding some premiere assistant coaches/ specialists, etc to give him more support on the things he might seek to improve on. I just think he might need an upgraded supporting cast (If any become/are available)?? :dontknow:
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Post#2304 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:06 am

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Didn't the Mavs sign Aldridge? Or did that not go through?

still no updates beyond him working out with them. But if the Mavs don't think he's good enough to sign, should we? Actually for his skillset, experience and familiarity with Durant, he'd probably be a decent buyout consideration? :nod:
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Post#2305 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:17 am

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Didn't the Mavs sign Aldridge? Or did that not go through?

still no updates beyond him working out with them. But if the Mavs don't think he's good enough to sign, should we? Actually for his skillset, experience and familiarity with Durant, he'd probably be a decent buyout consideration? :nod:

Absolutely not

You can't look at every free agent, find the 2-3 redeeming qualities and use that to justify adding them to the roster. You do that with almost every name, like you just did that with Melo just because CP3/KD is interested in him
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Post#2306 » by Slim Charless » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:30 am

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Who among them is able to guard Zion? That is the most important question. :noway:


Dude. Zion is gonna be a Sun this time next year. No worries :D
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Post#2307 » by Slim Charless » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:32 am

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
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If we manage to swap Monty for Snyder the possibilities are endless. That could set us for a possible dynasty or at least two rings in next 3 years. Slim would be satisfied to the fullest with Ayton still here and Snyder leading the charge.

Have you ever thought if we did not have Monty that we would not have Chris Paul or Kevin Durant on the Suns? I think Book would probably be with another team as well. Say what you want about Monty, but he saved the Suns ass - from being the most embarrassing team in the league to one of the most respected. It’s pretty sad how some fans do not understand the impact he’s had in Phoenix. Every good thing the Suns have going right now is because of Monty but let’s ship him for a coach who could not do crap in the playoffs. Synder did a great job with managing Mitchell and Gobert, too. Solid choice!


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Monty's not going anywhere! At least not this year and most likely not as long as Durant's here either. I still think he could really benefit by us adding some premiere assistant coaches/ specialists, etc to give him more support on the things he might seek to improve on. I just think he might need an upgraded supporting cast (If any become/are available)?? :dontknow:


Monty will be given the chance. I'm no fan obviously, but even I think he can't possibly **** this up. I mean he can't screw-up lineups as badly and the KD/Chris Paul combo can assist him coaching.

This roster "should" be Monty-proof.


PS: Atlanta could hire Quinn but I'd like to see that team with our old coach. Pringles could do some things with Hawks squad. Just like he did with Houston and Harden.
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Post#2308 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:40 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:Didn't the Mavs sign Aldridge? Or did that not go through?

still no updates beyond him working out with them. But if the Mavs don't think he's good enough to sign, should we? Actually for his skillset, experience and familiarity with Durant, he'd probably be a decent buyout consideration? :nod:

Absolutely not

You can't look at every free agent, find the 2-3 redeeming qualities and use that to justify adding them to the roster. You do that with almost every name, like you just did that with Melo just because CP3/KD is interested in him


I'm only making suggestions to foster discussion man. It's not like I truly believe/expect we'll extend our roster to 30 players or something.....lol. Besides, it hurts nothing to consider all available options for potential complimentary fit now doesn't it? Then focus on the best remaining option that checks the most boxes. With one remaining roster spot available, it might be reasonable to consider a number of players and try to secure the best available value before committing to one with the last spot don't you think? :dontknow:
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Post#2309 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:43 am

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Jdiddy701 wrote:Have you ever thought if we did not have Monty that we would not have Chris Paul or Kevin Durant on the Suns? I think Book would probably be with another team as well. Say what you want about Monty, but he saved the Suns ass - from being the most embarrassing team in the league to one of the most respected. It’s pretty sad how some fans do not understand the impact he’s had in Phoenix. Every good thing the Suns have going right now is because of Monty but let’s ship him for a coach who could not do crap in the playoffs. Synder did a great job with managing Mitchell and Gobert, too. Solid choice!


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Monty's not going anywhere! At least not this year and most likely not as long as Durant's here either. I still think he could really benefit by us adding some premiere assistant coaches/ specialists, etc to give him more support on the things he might seek to improve on. I just think he might need an upgraded supporting cast (If any become/are available)?? :dontknow:


Monty will be given the chance. I'm no fan obviously, but even I think he can't possibly **** this up. I mean he can't screw-up lineups as badly and the KD/Chris Paul combo can assist him coaching.

This roster "should" be Monty-proof.
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PS: Atlanta could hire Quinn but I'd like to see that team with our old coach. Pringles could do some things with Hawks squad. Just like he did with Houston and Harden.
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Post#2310 » by Slim Charless » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:10 am

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:Monty's not going anywhere! At least not this year and most likely not as long as Durant's here either. I still think he could really benefit by us adding some premiere assistant coaches/ specialists, etc to give him more support on the things he might seek to improve on. I just think he might need an upgraded supporting cast (If any become/are available)?? :dontknow:


Monty will be given the chance. I'm no fan obviously, but even I think he can't possibly **** this up. I mean he can't screw-up lineups as badly and the KD/Chris Paul combo can assist him coaching.

This roster "should" be Monty-proof.
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PS: Atlanta could hire Quinn but I'd like to see that team with our old coach. Pringles could do some things with Hawks squad. Just like he did with Houston and Harden.


That GIF even looks like him lol.
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Post#2311 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:34 am

Slim Charless wrote:
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Monty will be given the chance. I'm no fan obviously, but even I think he can't possibly **** this up. I mean he can't screw-up lineups as badly and the KD/Chris Paul combo can assist him coaching.

This roster "should" be Monty-proof.
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PS: Atlanta could hire Quinn but I'd like to see that team with our old coach. Pringles could do some things with Hawks squad. Just like he did with Houston and Harden.


That GIF even looks like him lol.


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I’m not seeing it. One is a fictional pringles can while the other is an actual person.
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Post#2312 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:38 am

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Good news for Ish fans! Also for everyone else too as I can now stop talking about every potential available buyout option that might offer value for our last spot! Sorry Fishi......... :tooth
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Post#2313 » by bwgood77 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:01 am

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So BOTH of Paul and Durant have expressed interest in Melo?
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Very strong vote of confidence there.
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Post#2314 » by bwgood77 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:02 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
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lilfishi22 wrote:Didn't the Mavs sign Aldridge? Or did that not go through?

still no updates beyond him working out with them. But if the Mavs don't think he's good enough to sign, should we? Actually for his skillset, experience and familiarity with Durant, he'd probably be a decent buyout consideration? :nod:

Absolutely not

You can't look at every free agent, find the 2-3 redeeming qualities and use that to justify adding them to the roster. You do that with almost every name, like you just did that with Melo just because CP3/KD is interested in him


I don't think KD saying "Melo is good enough to play in the league" is "being interested in the Suns signing him". If anything, that's about as little positive as you can answer that question without saying "he's done".
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Post#2315 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:08 am

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Good news for Ish fans! Also for everyone else too as I can now stop talking about every potential available buyout option that might offer value for our last spot! Sorry Fishi......... :tooth


So if Ish gets the last remaining spot does that mean Jock Landale is the odd man out? Landale was good the first month for us but after that not so much. He misses easy bunnies like Biz but at least Biz can play defense and block a ton of shots.
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Post#2316 » by bwgood77 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:16 am

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Good news for Ish fans! Also for everyone else too as I can now stop talking about every potential available buyout option that might offer value for our last spot! Sorry Fishi......... :tooth


So if Ish gets the last remaining spot does that mean Jock Landale is the odd man out? Landale was good the first month for us but after that not so much. He misses easy bunnies like Biz but at least Biz can play defense and block a ton of shots.


Not sure if you guys are just using this as an attempt to talk about Ish, but this is another obvious poor try at a joke attempt by Xin.
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Post#2317 » by SunsRback4Good » Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:26 am

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Good news for Ish fans! Also for everyone else too as I can now stop talking about every potential available buyout option that might offer value for our last spot! Sorry Fishi......... :tooth


So if Ish gets the last remaining spot does that mean Jock Landale is the odd man out? Landale was good the first month for us but after that not so much. He misses easy bunnies like Biz but at least Biz can play defense and block a ton of shots.


Not sure if you guys are just using this as an attempt to talk about Ish, but this is another obvious poor try at a joke attempt by Xin.


No, I just was not sure who we keep and cut for remaining 15 roster spots going into the playoffs. Right now we have 16, so either Ish, Landale, Bazley will be cut..
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Post#2318 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:58 am

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Ghost of Kleine wrote:still no updates beyond him working out with them. But if the Mavs don't think he's good enough to sign, should we? Actually for his skillset, experience and familiarity with Durant, he'd probably be a decent buyout consideration? :nod:

Absolutely not

You can't look at every free agent, find the 2-3 redeeming qualities and use that to justify adding them to the roster. You do that with almost every name, like you just did that with Melo just because CP3/KD is interested in him


I'm only making suggestions to foster discussion man. It's not like I truly believe/expect we'll extend our roster to 30 players or something.....lol. Besides, it hurts nothing to consider all available options for potential complimentary fit now doesn't it? Then focus on the best remaining option that checks the most boxes. With one remaining roster spot available, it might be reasonable to consider a number of players and try to secure the best available value before committing to one with the last spot don't you think? :dontknow:

But you suggest damn near everyone that's available lol like no one knows what players you are legitimately interested in.
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Post#2319 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:04 am

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Ghost of Kleine wrote:still no updates beyond him working out with them. But if the Mavs don't think he's good enough to sign, should we? Actually for his skillset, experience and familiarity with Durant, he'd probably be a decent buyout consideration? :nod:

Absolutely not

You can't look at every free agent, find the 2-3 redeeming qualities and use that to justify adding them to the roster. You do that with almost every name, like you just did that with Melo just because CP3/KD is interested in him


I don't think KD saying "Melo is good enough to play in the league" is "being interested in the Suns signing him". If anything, that's about as little positive as you can answer that question without saying "he's done".

I know and I worded it wrong. I'm just using Melo as one of the many, many examples of a player GoK mentioned as an option because there's some vague connection to KD/CP3. I don't mean to say KD/CP3 actually wants the Suns to bring him in.
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Post#2320 » by Slim Charless » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:51 am

bwgood77 wrote:
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Ghost of Kleine wrote:still no updates beyond him working out with them. But if the Mavs don't think he's good enough to sign, should we? Actually for his skillset, experience and familiarity with Durant, he'd probably be a decent buyout consideration? :nod:

Absolutely not

You can't look at every free agent, find the 2-3 redeeming qualities and use that to justify adding them to the roster. You do that with almost every name, like you just did that with Melo just because CP3/KD is interested in him


I don't think KD saying "Melo is good enough to play in the league" is "being interested in the Suns signing him". If anything, that's about as little positive as you can answer that question without saying "he's done".


Well, we know it's probably not just KD. I mean Chris Paul is about as tight with Melo as he is with anyone in the league I'd guess. So if both of them give the thumbs up.... might be a done deal.

I wouldn't mind it. Say what you want about Melo's defense and whatnot but the guy is a bucket. He also gives us size off the bench. There might be times when Booker and KD are not having it going and it'll be good to have a former scoring champ coming off the bench who can put up a quick 15 or so.

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