The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2

[Ghost of Kleine]

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I don't care! I'd trade KD to Minnesota anyways and let them work out a possible extension with his bird rights or else they can engineer a sign n trade elsewhere for value reclamation if necessary. Suns hold the leverage here, not KD!! He's not gonna leave money on the table for what could very well be his last contract.

[BobbieL]

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I'mon the phone right now doing this deal without hesitation!!!!

Send it in to the league office tonight!!!
Barrett/ Poetl/ Dick or Abaji and the 9th pick!!

Then I'm on the phone with Brooklyn about sending them Barrett/ Poetl/9th pick for Cam Johnson/ Claxton/ Clowney/ 19th pick/ 26th pick/ 36th pick/ PHI 27' 1st ( protected 1-8). OR New York 27' 1st.

I actually think if the Raptors include Grady Dick - I would prefer that over the Nets package.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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I'mon the phone right now doing this deal without hesitation!!!!

Send it in to the league office tonight!!!
Barrett/ Poetl/ Dick or Abaji and the 9th pick!!

Then I'm on the phone with Brooklyn about sending them Barrett/ Poetl/9th pick for Cam Johnson/ Claxton/ Clowney/ 19th pick/ 26th pick/ 36th pick/ PHI 27' 1st ( protected 1-8). OR New York 27' 1st.

I actually think if the Raptors include Grady Dick - I would prefer that over the Nets package.

We'd be keeping Dick to replace Allen or O'neale in an outgoing trade man. Just sending out Barrett/ Poetl/ 9th pick for Johnson/ Claxton and those Brooklyn picks.

[TeamTragic]

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I'mon the phone right now doing this deal without hesitation!!!!

Send it in to the league office tonight!!!
Barrett/ Poetl/ Dick or Abaji and the 9th pick!!

Then I'm on the phone with Brooklyn about sending them Barrett/ Poetl/9th pick for Cam Johnson/ Claxton/ Clowney/ 19th pick/ 26th pick/ 36th pick/ PHI 27' 1st ( protected 1-8). OR New York 27' 1st.

Awesome. Raptors stepped up and offered the #9.

This might be the best current package available.

[WuTang_OG]

https://www.reddit.com/r/suns/comments/1ld57xt/gambo_kd_updates/

[TeamTragic]

https://www.reddit.com/r/suns/comments/1ld57xt/gambo_kd_updates/

Riley being a dumbass as usual. Wolves and Raptors competing with each other.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Windbag confirms that the Raptors are making the #9 pick available. Get this done Ishbia!!! Don't blow this golden opportunity.

[BobbieL]

https://www.reddit.com/r/suns/comments/1ld57xt/gambo_kd_updates/

Riley being a dumbass as usual. Wolves and Raptors competing with each other.

So much "noise" out there -- trade will happen tomorrow an off day in the NBA Finals

Personally, unless the Twolves are offering McDaniels, they don't have much unless Ishbia is so in love with winning now he takes Randle or Gobert when I think Poeltl RJ Grady and 9 is better

[Ghost of Kleine]

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It'd have to include Ware as the centerpiece and a bunch of picks. Miami's other players are mediocre at best.

[BobbieL]

What this tells me is the trade market for Beal is probably less than zero unless the Suns include MULTIPLE FRPs. And second, Beal isn't going to take a buyout pay cut

So I hope Beal is with the Suns this year - -just suck it up Ishbia and get the real value in two years from Beal. Plus, Beal off the bench, should be a decent enough scorer

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[thamadkant]

The social media Suns news breaker are a liars and grifters. Learn that and your misinformation control is on point.

Beal cannot be traded and has not been approached by Suns because he has NTC.

Waiving him does not help the Suns. Instead they just lose a 20ppg 5apg former all star to another team while Suns still suffer cap wise and money wise.

[Rebound Mound]

I have a big, big question.
What is the franchise going to decide in a situation like this?
Do we choose among the offers we are presented are pick the one that seems better, or do we have a plan regarding our style of play under a new coach and we pick the offer that provides us with the players that are closer to the style of play he wants to implement?
Or a good coach will addapt his style to the players he has, so having the best players is a better scenario than having a compensated group... ?

[Rebound Mound]

Oh, my Goodness me... some people here luring for a pick 9 in an average draft in which at number 9 you can find a boy who is going to play like Tyus Jones in 5 years... or Stockton, who knows... but not in Booker's lifetime as a player...

Number 9 and a player or two would do wonders if those players are the right ones and the pick is send to a different team or used to get rid of Beal.

[BobbieL]

I have a big, big question.
What is the franchise going to decide in a situation like this?
Do we choose among the offers we are presented are pick the one that seems better, or do we have a plan regarding our style of play under a new coach and we pick the offer that provides us with the players that are closer to the style of play he wants to implement?
Or a good coach will addapt his style to the players he has, so having the best players is a better scenario than having a compensated group... ?

My hope is the coach is aligned - pun intended with Ishbia and Gregory on finding the right players to build around Booker.

My feeling is that Ishbia won't take that into account and trade for the player(s) that he thinks are most win now -- and if he knows there name like Randle (big name) or Gobert (big name) - -that will take priority over roster construction and style of play under Ott.

I just hear too much focus - -I was watching the PHNX_SUNS and again, Pridgeon and Ruby are talking about Center as the top priority. Get the best talent that isn't the SG position. Unless its Green and you can flip him. Get more good players around Booker. 1, 3, 4 or 5

[Qwigglez]

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Beal's stats in games without KD are not that bad, but it's not that far away from his average for the season.

In 15 games without KD in a Suns uniform Beal is averaging...
19.1 points, 1.7 3's made, 4 rebounds, 4.1 assists, 1.3 steals, 0.7 blocks, 2.5 turnovers.

However, 1 of those games was against the Celtics where Beal only had one point (he did play 30 minutes though), if we take that out of this sample size his average for points goes up to 20.4 points per game.

[BobbieL]

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Beal's stats in games without KD are not that bad, but it's not that far away from his average for the season.

In 15 games without KD in a Suns uniform Beal is averaging...
19.1 points, 1.7 3's made, 4 rebounds, 4.1 assists, 1.3 steals, 0.7 blocks, 2.5 turnovers.

However, 1 of those games was against the Celtics where Beal only had one point (he did play 30 minutes though), if we take that out of this sample size his average for points goes up to 20.4 points per game.

I think, and maybe its just glass half full and trying to be optimistic - but I think Booker and Beal will be better this year without Durant. Booker more for leadership and Beal for production. Since Gambo backtracked on Beal - it seems more likely he will be on the roster than not. And I am good with it

[lilfishi22]

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Still prefer Ware to be included in a deal involving Miami

[lilfishi22]

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At least the front office is thinking ahead

[Sunsdeuce]

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Beal's stats in games without KD are not that bad, but it's not that far away from his average for the season.

In 15 games without KD in a Suns uniform Beal is averaging...
19.1 points, 1.7 3's made, 4 rebounds, 4.1 assists, 1.3 steals, 0.7 blocks, 2.5 turnovers.

However, 1 of those games was against the Celtics where Beal only had one point (he did play 30 minutes though), if we take that out of this sample size his average for points goes up to 20.4 points per game.

I think, and maybe its just glass half full and trying to be optimistic - but I think Booker and Beal will be better this year without Durant. Booker more for leadership and Beal for production. Since Gambo backtracked on Beal - it seems more likely he will be on the roster than not. And I am good with it

I like both players without KD. My only issue is that Booker and Beal are clones. It’s soooo hard to play them both at the same time.

Time to end the lie about Booker being a good PG. Booker sucks at playing PG. we just been lying to ourselves to accept him playing the position. And Beal isn’t as bad but he ain’t much better.

Booker tends to get lazy without the ball. Beal works a little harder off the ball.

I’m cool with keeping Beal. If he could stop getting hurt, he’d be a huge asset.

[lilfishi22]

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Still early days. Teams are still playing in the Finals who could become players depending on the outcome. Just need one to elevate their offer and we should see others try and match