Draft Thread: Who do you want with the 13th pick? Stanley Johnson and WCS added..change votes if you want

MrMiyagi · Post #2361 » by **MrMiyagi** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:27 am

PORZINGIS IS A STRING BEAN WHO PRACTICED AGAINST STATIONARY THINGAMABOBS INSTEAD OF REAL PLAYERS.

If we trade for the 4, it better be because Jahlil Okafor fell past LA and Philly.

jcsunsfan · Post #2362 » by **jcsunsfan** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:48 am

AtheJ415 wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
AtheJ415 wrote:I don't like Kaminsky because I think he's delusional. He actually wrote he hates Anthony Davis because people think he's better than him. As if there isn't a person alive who doesn't KNOW Davis is better than him. There's a difference between confidence, irrational confidence, and straight up lunacy. I hope we get Turner or Portis for that and other reasons. But I do think Kaminsky is a good fit for our team.

Can you please give me that quote in its entire context. I like to do that before I pass judgement and call someone irrational and delusional. I am willing to bet, you are taking it out of context to stir up hatred for Kaminsky...

http://moosebball.blogspot.com/2014/04/what-it-was-like-elite-8.html

Quote: "I take it personally when people are touted as better than me. I hate Anthony Davis."

I'd prefer not draft a raging hater.

That quote is nothing. Lots of athletes say that type of thing. He is not saying he is better, he is saying that when a player is hyped as better than him he find more personal motivation.

He is competitive. That's a good thing.

jcsunsfan · Post #2363 » by **jcsunsfan** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:49 am

Yikes. The white big man paranoia is in full force.

MrMiyagi · Post #2364 » by **MrMiyagi** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:21 am

jcsunsfan wrote:Yikes. The white big man paranoia is in full force.

You realize that Kaminsky is the player with the most votes in the poll, right?

DirtyDez · Post #2365 » by **DirtyDez** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:39 am

MrMiyagi wrote:PORZINGIS IS A STRING BEAN WHO PRACTICED AGAINST STATIONARY THINGAMABOBS INSTEAD OF REAL PLAYERS.

If we trade for the 4, it better be because Jahlil Okafor fell past LA and Philly.

I don't care about his body at 19 years old. KG was just as scrawny when he was drafted but I'm worried about his inner drive. You can be puny but still play tough.

Mulhollanddrive · Post #2366 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:22 am

If our roster in 3 days time is Russell, Warren, Len and 60m in cap space, I'd jizz my pants.

Post #2367 » by **batsmasher** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:16 am

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Revived · Post #2368 » by **Revived** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:25 am

MrMiyagi wrote:PORZINGIS IS A STRING BEAN WHO PRACTICED AGAINST STATIONARY THINGAMABOBS INSTEAD OF REAL PLAYERS.

If we trade for the 4, it better be because Jahlil Okafor fell past LA and Philly.

If either Okafor or Towns fell to the Suns (and if we get #4), it would be poetic justice for all the bad karma this team has had from the basketball gods over the years.

It's a dream though, Mitch Kupchak is too smart to not take him.

Post #2369 » by **batsmasher** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:50 am

This is my mock, and I'm sure you'll all be up in arms with who goes at #13. But he's my fav and this is MY mock

Spoiler:

Post #2370 » by **TASTIC** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:04 am

I'd be fine with Rondae, especially if we can move Tucker and allow Warren/RHJ to get some minutes.

I want Harrell. I think he's going to be a beast with his athleticism and rebounding - we NEED an energy big off the bench.

Don't want anything to do with Kaminsky, dude is an r-tard and his ceiling might be Olynyk. Plus he's already 22...

theSUNalsoRISES · Post #2371 » by **theSUNalsoRISES** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:11 am

I know a lot of " rosterbations" being happening ...but if WCS is available at13...we can add a solid piece without losing a thing..I feel trading for cousins or the 4th pick is we lose more than we gain...getting WCS solidifies our front court ...remember Drummond dropped..so some great talent drop for no real reason...WCS alongside Len and kief would be Amazing.....n if WCS doesn't work out we could always flip him for say..Joakim Noah.

Post #2372 » by **Qwigglez** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:49 am

theSUNalsoRISES wrote:I know a lot of " rosterbations" being happening ...but if WCS is available at13...we can add a solid piece without losing a thing..I feel trading for cousins or the 4th pick is we lose more than we gain...getting WCS solidifies our front court ...remember Drummond dropped..so some great talent drop for no real reason...WCS alongside Len and kief would be Amazing.....n if WCS doesn't work out we could always flip him for say..Joakim Noah.

Would love for WCS to drop to 13. If that happened, I agree I wouldn't do a thing. Maybe try to pick up a piece in free agency. I doubt he falls past the Pacers, but if the Pacers end up getting Kaminsky or whomever else, WCS is as good as ours

SunsFanSSOL · Post #2373 » by **SunsFanSSOL** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:56 am

Chad Ford just said on Mike and Mike that Frank Kaminsky is slimming down rather than bulking up because he sees himself as a Dirk level player, not a Spencer Hawes esque role player teams want him to be. Kaminsky thinks an NBA team is going to run their offense through him like Wisconsin did. Lol delusional much?

Post #2374 » by **Qwigglez** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:42 pm

SunsFanSSOL wrote:Chad Ford just said on Mike and Mike that Frank Kaminsky is slimming down rather than bulking up because he sees himself as a Dirk level player, not a Spencer Hawes esque role player teams want him to be. Kaminsky thinks an NBA team is going to run their offense through him like Wisconsin did. Lol delusional much?

Honestly I think it's good for a player to be overly confident, just not to the point that he won't learn from veterans or the coaching staff. Hopefully though some team buys this garbage and he moves up in the draft.

Post #2375 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:49 pm

MrMiyagi wrote:PORZINGIS IS A STRING BEAN WHO PRACTICED AGAINST STATIONARY THINGAMABOBS INSTEAD OF REAL PLAYERS.

If we trade for the 4, it better be because Jahlil Okafor fell past LA and Philly.

What would you want to do with Len? Both are definitely centers who play close to the basket. I really like Okafor, and it would be nice to have that insurance against a Len injury and two guys who can split time. No way could one play four though because neither could chase the small ball fours around and guard them effectively.

I love Porzingis.

JoRain · Post #2376 » by **JoRain** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:54 pm

MrMiyagi wrote:PORZINGIS IS A STRING BEAN WHO PRACTICED AGAINST STATIONARY THINGAMABOBS INSTEAD OF REAL PLAYERS.

If we trade for the 4, it better be because Jahlil Okafor fell past LA and Philly.

So being a constant contributor and one of the leaders on his team, playing in the second best league in the world doesn't count... Because he didn't work out against real players?

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Post #2377 » by **batsmasher** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:09 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Honestly I think it's good for a player to be overly confident, just not to the point that he won't learn from veterans or the coaching staff. Hopefully though some team buys this garbage and he moves up in the draft.

Overly confident on this team? HELL NAW.

I mean, you could argue the Morrii aren't at 'the point' of not learning from the coaching staff because they have both progressed their games over the last 12 months. But that doesn't make their over-confidence a good trait, and it certainly doesn't help the locker room.

These days, fit has so much to do with prospects panning out. And that doesn't just mean giving a kid opportunities. The locker room environment HAS to be good. Kids with unrealistic expectations of themselves are prone to disappointment and negativity. You might vent like the Morrii (rack up techs, blame the fans) or be an IT and blurt crap on Twitter about how everyone is sleeping on your greatness. Either way, you're generating negativity which one way or another is going to rub off on your team mates.

Wasn't there talk last season that the Morrii thought the refs were personally out to get them? That stems from their over-confidence, but it doesn't inhibit their ability to learn and improve their own game. But how do you expect a team to win when there's that sort of locker room dynamic?

JMac1 · Post #2378 » by **JMac1** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:25 pm

theSUNalsoRISES wrote:I know a lot of " rosterbations" being happening ...but if WCS is available at13...we can add a solid piece without losing a thing..I feel trading for cousins or the 4th pick is we lose more than we gain...getting WCS solidifies our front court ...remember Drummond dropped..so some great talent drop for no real reason...WCS alongside Len and kief would be Amazing.....n if WCS doesn't work out we could always flip him for say..Joakim Noah.

This is a sane post......not very many of them thus far.

Tastic saying Kaminksy is 22 like he is 32 or something. Just ridiculous.

JMac1 · Post #2379 » by **JMac1** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:30 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
I love Porzingis.

Why? What has he shown? Did you not watch his weaknesses on video? People say KG was skinny when he came in....yea muscle and bones this dude is just bones!

Kaminsky dominates Okafor, and balls up Kentucky's front line and yet everyone hates and and dismiss he play..... :crazy:

BobbieL · Post #2380 » by **BobbieL** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 1:31 pm

The more I see the draft and mocks and what not and what wins in the NBA - I think Ryan McD needs to two ways

1) the draymond green difference maker type: Montrez Harrell - brings effort, defense, rebounding, passing, teamwork
2) the boom: and that is RHJ - guy needs a shot - but with time and his defense, speed, athleticisim, he can help

I wouldn't mind a post 4 either that can defend, rebound, block shots, offensive board . But no stretch four . I don't draft a stretchfour like Kaminsky -and not sure want Lyles, Turner, or Portis.

Which three guys would you most like to draft if they are there at 13?