Offseason Thread 6: The Not So Mexican Stand-off Continues

[lilfishi22]

What is the point of Joe Jackson?

[Saberestar]

Seriously Phoenix? Its raining point guards...

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... -With-Suns

I hope that it will be an unguaranteed contract, because he is a player that makes no sense.
Probably we need another PG for workouts until Bledsoe or Zoran signs...and then we would cut Jackson.

[NotTraxxe]

(My opinion as I haven't heard **** about the Suns in a minute; heard nothing of this)

We offered to go up and negotiate.

They refused to entertain us. (This is known)

This is how we responded.

Not guaranteed, just fancy posturing. We are calling his bluff (?). We lose nothing with this move.

[spanishninja]

What is the point of Joe Jackson?

Maybe they'll make him play without shoes.

[Saberestar]

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Joe-Jackson-5739/

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Although I personally think its more likely that the Suns regress than improve. You say you are suggesting neither, but you then list how you think players will step up next year and the Suns could be better than Golden State and the Clipps, so you are indeed suggesting or expecting improvement.

I didn't think "could" was such a suggestive term. And everything hinges on Bledsoe's return. Internally, I think we're likely to see the greatest improvement from Len: not "beast mode," but something similar to Mozgov or Koufos's production last year - that is, a valuable contributor. I stated that I thought Dragic and Green would decline. I'm optimistic about Warren. Basically, I'm suggesting that the +Warren, +Len and +Thomas may balance out -Dragic, -Green and -Frye, and that it would be reasonable to think that we'd duplicate the success we had with Bledsoe and Dragic next year, leading us into the playoffs. People point out that Denver, New Orleans and Dallas have improved; I note that Houston has taken a step back and of the top 6 seeds in the west last year, none of them appear to have improved.

But health could always be an issue. There are always surprises. And Bledsoe may be on a bad-blood QO contract. So you never know.

[Scutt]

^ Mozgov put up 9 points and 6 rebounds in 20 minutes of play last year. If Alex Len can replicate that in his 2nd year, especially after missing so much time as a rookie, I would call that "beast mode" for sure.

[jcsunsfan]

So. I think its like this. We threatened Eric. We'll sign another pg every 14 days until he signs a contract. He waits, another body hits the floor--taking minutes away, making him more expendable.

[letsgosuns]

There has to be a trade coming. I am thinking it will be Bledsoe and maybe picks for a frontcourt player. Why else would you sign another point guard for this team. Even without Bledsoe on the team, having four natural point guards in Dragic, Thomas, Ennis, and Jackson is just overkill. Then you also have Green and Goodwin. That is six players for two positions and they all need playing time. I love Bledsoe. but he has done nothing to prove a max contract. The max I would give him is 4 years/56 million and he wants 5 years/ 85 million. It is just too risky to invest that kind of money into a point guard who already has had two knee surgeries on the same knee and has never started for more than half a season. I just have no idea who is available to trade for.

[LukasBMW]

It's probably a non guaranteed contract.

It will allow them to evaluate him in training camp and see if Ennis is really better.

If they like him, they could always stash him in the D-League

But more importantly, it sends a message to Bledsoe: "We are preparing to move on Bytch!"

[LukasBMW]

Can the Suns sign Zoran and keep him stashed in Europe for a year or two?

We really don't have room for him now, but I wouldn't mind signing him and getting his rights.

[Kerrsed]

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[Scutt]

(My opinion as I haven't heard **** about the Suns in a minute; heard nothing of this)

We offered to go up and negotiate.

They refused to entertain us. (This is known)

This is how we responded.

Not guaranteed, just fancy posturing. We are calling his bluff (?). We lose nothing with this move.

That is the strangest part about this whole Bledsoe thing. Robert Sarver went on the radio and spoke highly of Eric and Paul and how he would welcome the opportunity to open up negotiations again, and the pair have still remained silent.

If Bledsoe is so confident in his abilities and his desire for a max deal, why is he making himself look so desperate and waiting for a dark horse team to swoop in and make an offer? Why not just sign the qualifying offer now? Greg Monroe could have waited it out too, but he has signed his already.

Bledsoe should take the QO or at least come to the table to negotiate, whether that be a deal with us or a sign and trade because it is clear he is not getting the max this year. We are a week into September now, I just don't see how Bledsoe and his agent are gaining anything out of this whole fiasco.

[jcsunsfan]

(My opinion as I haven't heard **** about the Suns in a minute; heard nothing of this)

We offered to go up and negotiate.

They refused to entertain us. (This is known)

This is how we responded.

Not guaranteed, just fancy posturing. We are calling his bluff (?). We lose nothing with this move.

That is the strangest part about this whole Bledsoe thing. Robert Sarver went on the radio and spoke highly of Eric and Paul and how he would welcome the opportunity to open up negotiations again, and the pair have still remained silent.

If Bledsoe is so confident in his abilities and his desire for a max deal, why is he making himself look so desperate and waiting for a dark horse team to swoop in and make an offer? Why not just sign the qualifying offer now? Greg Monroe could have waited it out too, but he has signed his already.

Bledsoe should take the QO or at least come to the table to negotiate, whether that be a deal with us or a sign and trade because it is clear he is not getting the max this year. We are a week into September now, I just don't see how Bledsoe and his agent are gaining anything out of this whole fiasco.

I don't know what there is to lose by waiting now.

[Scutt]

I guess you are right, its gone on so long, it might as well go down to the deadline at this point. This cant be good for Bledsoe's image though. He is holding out for a max deal that no one is willing to give him.

[RunDogGun]

What is the point of Joe Jackson?

Maybe they'll make him play without shoes.

Or sing Steppin Out, when we cut him?

[RunDogGun]

Can the Suns sign Zoran and keep him stashed in Europe for a year or two?

We really don't have room for him now, but I wouldn't mind signing him and getting his rights.

I think that only works in drafting.

[Frank Lee]

I don't think Bledsoe is waiting on an offer. I think they are waiting on a trade. With both LA and NY having loads of cap room next yr, and the emphasis on marketing imagery from the Paul/James camp, it is completely logical to think Eric the Bled makes more money , long term, by holding out. Face it, the Room Store commercial spots pale in comparison to anything LA or NYC. Bledsoe will piggyback James' fame/influence as far as he can. The QO is not a death sentence nor an agent failure, at least in their eyes. They set the bar high. I believe their strategy all along was Phnx(or?) at the max or wait until next yr and get it from LA or NY or?

Here's to hoping McDo and the Babbster can parlay some good return from this unfortunate highjacking. I have to think there is a three way in store. Boston ? SacTown? Bueller ? Bueller ?

[Scutt]

Looks like Forbes ranked Phoenix as second-most miserable sports city in America...

http://arizonasports.com/118/1757151/Fo ... in-America

[RunDogGun]

What is the point of Joe Jackson?

We needed another JJ since we have a GG, and two MMs.