College basketball and 2017 draft - One more poll after last game

weslo1812 · Post #241 » by **weslo1812** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 10:39 pm

Ball and Fultz are my top two right now. Stellar players. Ball is who I REALLY want though. But it's likely gonna take us picking in the top 3 to top 5 at the most.

Post #242 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 11:00 pm

Marcus wrote:
kennydorglas wrote:Whoever gets the #1 pick this year, will have a really hard time trying to choose between those guys.
It'll get easier once some guys are off the board. You really can get wrong with this class, but u never know.

I think it still comes down to fit personally and the draft is deep enough to allow that.

Yes, a team like Philly, that may want to run Simmons as the point, may prefer a guy like Monk over Ball. Or probably at least a guy like Fultz over Ball.

Post #243 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 11:02 pm

Bogyo wrote:The draft is deep, but I still only see Ball, Fultz and Jackson as real game changers in the NBA. Two of them are PGs and it's very hard for a PG to be the lead dog in a championship team - only Curry and Isiah Thomas have done it in recent memory...
But there is still plenty of time left, and if our young guys develop right it could be the case that all we need is an elite distributing PG.

LeBron for all intents and purposes, plays point.

Jkam31 · Post #244 » by **Jkam31** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 11:33 pm

Bogyo wrote:The draft is deep, but I still only see Ball, Fultz and Jackson as real game changers in the NBA. Two of them are PGs and it's very hard for a PG to be the lead dog in a championship team - only Curry and Isiah Thomas have done it in recent memory...
But there is still plenty of time left, and if our young guys develop right it could be the case that all we need is an elite distributing PG.

Smith Jr as well don't let college ball style fool you. He is amazing in pick and roll and gets to the rim at will than add in his defense. He's the real deal.

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Barkley_34 · Post #245 » by **Barkley_34** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 11:38 pm

weslo1812 wrote:Ball and Fultz are my top two right now. Stellar players. Ball is who I REALLY want though. But it's likely gonna take us picking in the top 3 to top 5 at the most.

Ball is perfect. I Love him

Post #246 » by **Marcus** » Thu Dec 1, 2016 11:43 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Marcus wrote:
kennydorglas wrote:Whoever gets the #1 pick this year, will have a really hard time trying to choose between those guys.
It'll get easier once some guys are off the board. You really can get wrong with this class, but u never know.

I think it still comes down to fit personally and the draft is deep enough to allow that.

Yes, a team like Philly, that may want to run Simmons as the point, may prefer a guy like Monk over Ball. Or probably at least a guy like Fultz over Ball.

Yeah I was just in the Philly draft thread saying something similar. I think Fultz is ideal for them if they end up near the top and have a shot at him. He's just the better fit with the current roster they have.

OGBAH · Post #247 » by **OGBAH** » Fri Dec 2, 2016 3:20 am

Ok...Ball has a younger brother averaging 50 points a game in high school.

We must have brothers play on the Suns at the same time again.

Post #248 » by **ATTL** » Sat Dec 3, 2016 2:43 am

UCLA and Kentucky tomorrow morning 10am phoenix time. Very good test for Ball.

Post #249 » by **ATTL** » Sat Dec 3, 2016 6:18 pm

Ball struggling against full court pressure and the athletes on Kentucky.

kennydorglas · Post #250 » by **kennydorglas** » Sat Dec 3, 2016 11:31 pm

Those FR from Gonzaga (Tillie/Collins) are pretty good. Damn
Giving Markkanen a really hard time and he's our only option to score.

MrMiyagi · Post #251 » by **MrMiyagi** » Sun Dec 4, 2016 12:32 am

kennydorglas wrote:Those FR from Gonzaga (Tillie/Collins) are pretty good. Damn
Giving Markkanen a really hard time and he's our only option to score.

Collins is a slew of expletives that I will refrain from typing out for fear of being banned. Him and Grayson Allen are probably best friends.

Post #252 » by **ATTL** » Sun Dec 4, 2016 7:16 am

Scott Williams does commentary for gcu games. Weird since he has no affiliation to the school at all.

Post #253 » by **bwgood77** » Sun Dec 4, 2016 7:29 am

ATTL wrote:Scott Williams does commentary for gcu games. Weird since he has no affiliation to the school at all.

It's amazing they kept the game with Louisville as close as they did, and even ahead at the half. The teams they are able to get games with is nothing short of remarkable, and it will serve them well when they are tourney eligible.

Post #254 » by **ATTL** » Sun Dec 4, 2016 9:20 am

bwgood77 wrote:
ATTL wrote:Scott Williams does commentary for gcu games. Weird since he has no affiliation to the school at all.

It's amazing they kept the game with Louisville as close as they did, and even ahead at the half. The teams they are able to get games with is nothing short of remarkable, and it will serve them well when they are tourney eligible.

Watching the game they fell off with about 10 minutes left. I'm impressed with Dan and happy for him. He can turn that program into a tourney team and start poaching some local talent.
One gripe I have about the gcu arena, they don't have an actual flag. During the national anthem I was looking around the arena and couldn't find one. Its just on a screen.

Djedefre · Post #255 » by **Djedefre** » Sun Dec 4, 2016 2:33 pm

Fox can ball

DirtyDez · Post #256 » by **DirtyDez** » Sun Dec 4, 2016 6:22 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
ATTL wrote:Scott Williams does commentary for gcu games. Weird since he has no affiliation to the school at all.

It's amazing they kept the game with Louisville as close as they did, and even ahead at the half. The teams they are able to get games with is nothing short of remarkable, and it will serve them well when they are tourney eligible.

Majerle will be a hot commodity down the road. Ex-NBA player, young enthusiastic coach with some indirect ties to USA basketball.

They come to Tucson on the 14th.

LonZoBallin · Post #257 » by **LonZoBallin** » Sun Dec 4, 2016 6:49 pm

I want Ball obviously even with all our point guards. I'd look to trade both Bledsoe and Knight then fill our point guard spot in next years draft.

DirtyDez · Post #258 » by **DirtyDez** » Sun Dec 4, 2016 6:59 pm

LonZoBallin wrote:I want Ball obviously even with all our point guards. I'd look to trade both Bledsoe and Knight then fill our point guard spot in next years draft.

Thought you were a Fultz guy?

LonZoBallin · Post #259 » by **LonZoBallin** » Sun Dec 4, 2016 7:11 pm

DirtyDez wrote:
LonZoBallin wrote:I want Ball obviously even with all our point guards. I'd look to trade both Bledsoe and Knight then fill our point guard spot in next years draft.

Thought you were a Fultz guy?

Fultz will be nice but I prefer winners

Damkac · Post #260 » by **Damkac** » Sun Dec 4, 2016 8:41 pm

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If we have the 1st or 2nd pick, and take Ball, how will you feel