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Post#241 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:19 am

lilfishi22 wrote:What's surprised me is Igor putting such a big emphasis on defense with Ayton. He's clearly a really smart coach. I think a lot young coaches would just get his players to do what they are good at so they can have some impact on the court but Igor is looking further than everyone and recognises that for Ayton to be a truly elite player down the road he needs to play high level defense. A lot of young players with rookie coaches ends up only doing just what they know (like Booker being offense only) and they end up picking up bad habits because they just play to their strengths without a coach reinforcing the importance of having a well rounded game. So for Igor to instill the importance of defense very early on with Ayton and bringing what knowledge he's picked up coaching Gobert, I think Ayton is in a really good situation to become an elite two way player.

I will fully admit, I wasn't a huge fan of the pick (non-defensive C) and Igor being a primarily offense coach made me think there's potential Ayton will never become the two way player he needs to be to reach the upper echelon of elite players. So this could all just be talk but so far, I like what I've heard from everyone regarding Ayton focusing on defense.


The general consensus right now seems to be that Luka was the better pick, but this was always the problem with passing up on Deandre: he has the physical tools to dominate his position. If a staff successfully taps into his potential on both ends and he stays healthy, he'll be the draft's best player. The only way any other player can be better is if Deandre fails to make the most out of his extraordinary gifts. Most people seemed to think that his D simply will stink. I don't know. He hasn't blocked a shot yet so I can't say anything.
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Re: WELCOME DEANDRE AYTON!!!! 

Post#242 » by Revived » Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:45 am

DirtyDez wrote:He looks like he’s in great shape. His face even looks thinner. No more junk food?

His body looks night and day different in comparison with how he looked in summer league vs now.
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Re: WELCOME DEANDRE AYTON!!!! 

Post#243 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:11 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:What's surprised me is Igor putting such a big emphasis on defense with Ayton. He's clearly a really smart coach. I think a lot young coaches would just get his players to do what they are good at so they can have some impact on the court but Igor is looking further than everyone and recognises that for Ayton to be a truly elite player down the road he needs to play high level defense. A lot of young players with rookie coaches ends up only doing just what they know (like Booker being offense only) and they end up picking up bad habits because they just play to their strengths without a coach reinforcing the importance of having a well rounded game. So for Igor to instill the importance of defense very early on with Ayton and bringing what knowledge he's picked up coaching Gobert, I think Ayton is in a really good situation to become an elite two way player.

I will fully admit, I wasn't a huge fan of the pick (non-defensive C) and Igor being a primarily offense coach made me think there's potential Ayton will never become the two way player he needs to be to reach the upper echelon of elite players. So this could all just be talk but so far, I like what I've heard from everyone regarding Ayton focusing on defense.


The general consensus right now seems to be that Luka was the better pick, but this was always the problem with passing up on Deandre: he has the physical tools to dominate his position. If a staff successfully taps into his potential on both ends and he stays healthy, he'll be the draft's best player. The only way any other player can be better is if Deandre fails to make the most out of his extraordinary gifts. Most people seemed to think that his D simply will stink. I don't know. He hasn't blocked a shot yet so I can't say anything.

A lot of players with elite physicals don't live up to their potential, that's just a fact. The good thing about Ayton is that he's already ahead of the curve in terms of being able to impact the game right away. He hasa semi-reliable jumper, he should be able to score in double digits just on lobs and putbacks alone and he should be a ferocious rebounder so right away he should be able to be a force on the floor. So he's not purely an athlete with no skill. The question is not whether he has the physical ability to be a dominant player but whether he has what it takes to get there. I think it would be disingenuous to say he can't given he hasn't played an NBA minute yet but it would be similarly disingenuous to say he will just because he has the athletic tools to. So I'm certainly rooting for him to become the best player in that draft and he definitely has the tools to become that, even along side high level competitors in the same draft like Luka, JJJ and Bamba.
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Re: WELCOME DEANDRE AYTON!!!! 

Post#244 » by DirtyDez » Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:56 am

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DirtyDez wrote:He looks like he’s in great shape. His face even looks thinner. No more junk food?

His body looks night and day different in comparison with how he looked in summer league vs now.


In SL his upper body looked a little chunky/flabby. Now he looks very slim. There can’t be more than 3-4 guys that would overpower him if he’s down around 250 instead of 265. I care more about cardio shape than muscle bulk right now. I always thought Wolves-KG was slim but had core strength.
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Post#245 » by bwgood77 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:59 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:What's surprised me is Igor putting such a big emphasis on defense with Ayton. He's clearly a really smart coach. I think a lot young coaches would just get his players to do what they are good at so they can have some impact on the court but Igor is looking further than everyone and recognises that for Ayton to be a truly elite player down the road he needs to play high level defense. A lot of young players with rookie coaches ends up only doing just what they know (like Booker being offense only) and they end up picking up bad habits because they just play to their strengths without a coach reinforcing the importance of having a well rounded game. So for Igor to instill the importance of defense very early on with Ayton and bringing what knowledge he's picked up coaching Gobert, I think Ayton is in a really good situation to become an elite two way player.

I will fully admit, I wasn't a huge fan of the pick (non-defensive C) and Igor being a primarily offense coach made me think there's potential Ayton will never become the two way player he needs to be to reach the upper echelon of elite players. So this could all just be talk but so far, I like what I've heard from everyone regarding Ayton focusing on defense.


The general consensus right now seems to be that Luka was the better pick, but this was always the problem with passing up on Deandre: he has the physical tools to dominate his position. If a staff successfully taps into his potential on both ends and he stays healthy, he'll be the draft's best player. The only way any other player can be better is if Deandre fails to make the most out of his extraordinary gifts. Most people seemed to think that his D simply will stink. I don't know. He hasn't blocked a shot yet so I can't say anything.


Deandre will be very good and could be great. Luka should be good or could be transcendent. Anyone in this draft could end up the best player. I think we should know that by now watching drafts.
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Re: WELCOME DEANDRE AYTON!!!! 

Post#246 » by Saberestar » Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:21 pm

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Post#247 » by jcsunsfan » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:35 pm

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I hate this stuff.
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Post#248 » by Midnight_Suns » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:45 am

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I hate this stuff.
Seriously. I feel bad that they're asked to do this.

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Post#249 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:21 am

Its tacky and not funny.
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Post#250 » by bwgood77 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 5:27 am

Midnight_Suns wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:
Saberestar wrote:
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I hate this stuff.
Seriously. I feel bad that they're asked to do this.

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I'm not sure when they started that tradition...I know last year they made the rookies dress up in that stuff (see it in batsmasher's sig).

I assume the team pushes for the rookies to have to get their initiation this way because they had to...but I don't remember Jackson doing it, or Booker....or even the Bender class (outside of batsmasher's sig).

They should keep their rookie hazing or whatever you want to call it private or simply not do it at all.
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Post#251 » by JMac1 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 9:03 am

Are you guys effing serious? They have to dance in a silly costume....big deal.
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Post#252 » by oddity » Sun Sep 30, 2018 10:49 am

Oh No they're hazing rookies. Worst record in the league confirmed.

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Post#253 » by jcsunsfan » Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:26 pm

I just said I don’t like it. It’s stupid. It’s not funny. That’s all. Good grief.
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Post#254 » by SwingMan1938 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:00 pm

JMac1 wrote:Are you guys effing serious? They have to dance in a silly costume....big deal.


It's unnecessary cringe cheese suckage - kind of like how all of Esposito's interviews used to be.....
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Post#255 » by bwgood77 » Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:19 pm

Yeah, it's dumb...but it fits with the Laughing Stock Arena. Ultimately not a big deal, but dumb.
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Post#256 » by TeamTragic » Sun Sep 30, 2018 8:14 pm

bwgood77 wrote:Yeah, it's dumb...but it fits with the Laughing Stock Arena. Ultimately not a big deal, but dumb.


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Post#257 » by bwgood77 » Tue Oct 2, 2018 7:44 pm

Here is a good twitter thread...click to expand to see all posts/videos..

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Post#258 » by darealjuice » Tue Oct 2, 2018 8:04 pm

https://streamall.us/190450128/

Some clips of Ayton at this morning's practice
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Post#259 » by Hesh » Tue Oct 2, 2018 8:07 pm

darealjuice wrote:https://streamall.us/190450128/

Some clips of Ayton at this morning's practice


So he wears puma's in practice but not for actual games. Interesting. Consistent 3ball! :droop: and some nice ball handling for a dude his size
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