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The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2

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Assuming this is the last major addition, are you more excited than you were last offseason?

Yes
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No
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About the same
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#241 » by BobbieL » Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:19 pm

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Those will be late first round picks, not saying they are useless but when you have 11 FRPs in the next 7 years, it's time to cash in some. And they maybe able to restock soon should they trade Randle and Robinson.


Weren't they rumored to be in on Mitchell two summers ago -- that was the player to use multiple FRPs on. I like Mikal - one of my favorite players but he is for sure a role player.


Well he seems to be highly valued. Memphis apparently offered a ton of picks for him. He is one of the beset 3&D guys, hits a high % of 3s, can cut, is a solid passer, never turns it over, and created his own shot. And by most analysts, except for Slim, he is a top tier defender.

I am not sure all those picks are great either. I think some are heavily protected because I looked into him when I was looking at a potential KD trade for those picks, Randle, Hart and McBride.



Reading Bourguet, Flex and Gambo - they think all the Durant stuff is nonsense and the Suns are rolling with the Big 3. Which is fine

But its like they are not even thinking that maybe its the RIGHT thing to do is trade Durant, clear up some cap for the future, get more flexibility - maybe not a top heavy team and build for the future. Maybe the quartet of Booker, Ayton, Mikal and Cam wasn't the right foresome. But I just think with this roster, the lack of flexibility with the CBA - only getting older, its an uphill climb to even make the second round of the playoffs let alone the WCF and the NFL Finals.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#242 » by Slim Charless » Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:20 pm

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Fo-Real wrote:Recent Pic of Booker working out with his dog with him on The US Sun, Book is skinny as hell and ripped.


That's great. How's his heart?


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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#243 » by Funky Tut » Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:12 pm

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Fo-Real wrote:Recent Pic of Booker working out with his dog with him on The US Sun, Book is skinny as hell and ripped.


He was playing cornhole with D-Lo a couple days ago in the woods or something to that affect.
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D-Lo / Kolek
Booker / Bol / Brooks
Grayson / Dunn
Rui / Royce
Sengun / Nurkic


As much as I want this to happen I don't think another year with the "big 3" could even come out of the West, and certainly couldn't beat that Celtics team, it likely won't.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#244 » by sunskerr » Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:21 pm

We are probably irrelevant next year. Mid level playoff team at best. If the Sengun+picks rumor is real, that's such a bail out package...like the ultimate bail out...imagine we basically convert Bridges to Sengun and these last two years are just a bad dream.

But that's why it's probably bull **** and fake. It's too good to be true for us, no matter what you think of Sengun, who is still coming off a 20/10/5 season for a play in contender at 21 years old. So yeah those rumors are just bull. Too good to be true.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#245 » by Saberestar » Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:54 pm

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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#246 » by Slim Charless » Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:57 pm

Weird trade. Don't get it for the Wiz
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#247 » by Slim Charless » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:01 pm

sunskerr wrote:We are probably irrelevant next year. Mid level playoff team at best. If the Sengun+picks rumor is real, that's such a bail out package...like the ultimate bail out...imagine we basically convert Bridges to Sengun and these last two years are just a bad dream.

But that's why it's probably bull **** and fake. It's too good to be true for us, no matter what you think of Sengun, who is still coming off a 20/10/5 season for a play in contender at 21 years old. So yeah those rumors are just bull. Too good to be true.


He's good and all. But you probably value him higher than consensus due to fantasy basketball lol.

Sengun, #3 and our picks back along with Brooks for KD is right about on level I think.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#248 » by thamadkant » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:01 pm

sunskerr wrote:We are probably irrelevant next year. Mid level playoff team at best. If the Sengun+picks rumor is real, that's such a bail out package...like the ultimate bail out...imagine we basically convert Bridges to Sengun and these last two years are just a bad dream.

But that's why it's probably bull **** and fake. It's too good to be true for us, no matter what you think of Sengun, who is still coming off a 20/10/5 season for a play in contender at 21 years old. So yeah those rumors are just bull. Too good to be true.



But Suns owner and GM deems delusional... Booker too. He thinks KD and himself are as good as any duo.... but forgets that basketball is a team game. Celtics have gotten it right, 2 Stars, a DPOY and All Star level category player, then elite role players who can be All Stars if they had the green light to take over.... and not to mention the entire team also has amongst the smartest players in the league. Tatum amd Porzingis are probably the 'dumb' ones on the team and they are pretty smart also.

Suns could only dream... the team is full of mercenaries hoping the Stars light it up with 50 point games to get the win.

Bud is a good coach but I don't think he can manage the egos and is handicapped by the poor fitting players.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#249 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:01 pm

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I think that's a great move by Portland. I don't think you can combine the #14 and future pick to get a better player than Deni. Deni is still young with some prospects not much younger than him in the draft.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#250 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:03 pm

Slim Charless wrote:Weird trade. Don't get it for the Wiz

Super weird. Deni is on a seriously good value contract as well as it starts next year at $15.6 (very good number for a young guy with potential) and reduces to just under $12m in 27-28
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#251 » by thamadkant » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:03 pm

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sunskerr wrote:We are probably irrelevant next year. Mid level playoff team at best. If the Sengun+picks rumor is real, that's such a bail out package...like the ultimate bail out...imagine we basically convert Bridges to Sengun and these last two years are just a bad dream.

But that's why it's probably bull **** and fake. It's too good to be true for us, no matter what you think of Sengun, who is still coming off a 20/10/5 season for a play in contender at 21 years old. So yeah those rumors are just bull. Too good to be true.


He's good and all. But you probably value him higher than consensus due to fantasy basketball lol.

Sengun, #3 and our picks back along with Brooks for KD is right about on level I think.


If Rockets offer that and Ishiba rejects, he needs to sell the team. Because KD is due to have an injured riddle season as he had a relatively healthy one last season. He's due for a 50 to 60 game season especially his age.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#252 » by dremill24 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:12 pm

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Slim Charless wrote:Weird trade. Don't get it for the Wiz

Super weird. Deni is on a seriously good value contract as well as it starts next year at $15.6 (very good number for a young guy with potential) and reduces to just under $12m in 27-28


What do the Wiz really get out of keeping him? They're going to be terrible for the forseeable future. While a good player, he doesnt project as an irreplaceable star. He'll also likely be on a much more expensive contract by the time they're any good. Might as well get some high risk bites at the apple for when they're looking to make some noise :dontknow: Maybe he just asked out, who knows.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#253 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:35 pm

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That's a lot, but they will be much much tougher next year. Brunson and him were teammates on the Villanova championship team ( DiVincenzo too) and Hart played with them the previous 4 years.

Bridges and OG is crazy at the wings.

Brunson, Hart, Bridges, OG and Hartenstein.


Not nearly enough to beat the Celtics or get past a healthy Embiid Sixers squad who most certainly is going to add a max player.

The Knicks would be an easy-to-root-for hard hat type of team, but they still don't have have a true/consistent 2nd scoring option or shot creator and to win a chip that's mandatory.

It took Brunson playing wild minutes and shouldering the team to get as far as they did thru a weak/injured EC in the playoffs and he eventually broke down because of it.


Maybe not, but Bridges is such a perfect glue guy, and they have the defenders to defend Tatum and Brown. Horford who was important to that team doesn't have much longer. But yes, if they have their starting 5 they are a lot better than NY. I did think Philly was better when healthy than NY, but it's probably very close now. And some other teams are up and coming, particularly Cleveland and Orlando.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#254 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 11:38 pm

bigfoot wrote:Booker getting up shots in Flagstaff at Coconino High School. Gym looked familiar. I used to play pickup games every morning at 6am in that gym. Probably paddle boarding out at upper Lake Mary.

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Geez, he almost looks sickly skinny in this one.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#255 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:24 am

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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#256 » by TeamTragic » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:11 pm

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What's crazy?
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#257 » by TeamTragic » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:11 pm

Eric Gordon opted out just like Gambo said
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#258 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:16 pm

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What's crazy?


That he got traded to the Knicks.
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#259 » by TeamTragic » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:18 pm

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What's crazy?


That he got traded to the Knicks.


Didn't he make that trade request?
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Re: The Official 2024 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#260 » by Fo-Real » Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:55 pm

TeamTragic wrote:Eric Gordon opted out just like Gambo said


So.... Danny Ainge was right?!?! :lol:

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