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2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch - Revised Poll

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Who do you prefer of the following prospects?

Desmond Bane
12
41%
Saddiq Bey
1
3%
RJ Hampton
1
3%
Kira Lewis Jr
4
14%
Tyrese Maxey
2
7%
Aaron Nesmith
2
7%
Isaac Okoro
1
3%
Jalen Smith
2
7%
Tyrell Terry
2
7%
Patrick Williams
2
7%
 
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch 

Post#2401 » by bwgood77 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:39 pm

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We'll his offense is pretty bad, But he's elite defensively, AND actually has some underrated ball handling and playmaking ability ( think Iguodala). At this point, With our current roster and keeping Cam, I'd absolutely do it to provide another elite multipositional wing defender for us. Although I seriously doubt that it happens, As we're heavily rumored to be intent on trading back. I'm not happy about his shooting concerns, But again, With Paul, Booker, and Cam we should be ok. :wink:


I'd be pretty shocked if we took him.


Hope you’re right because I don’t love it either. Would rather Vassell or a PG or at least someone who can shoot. Unless you can sell me on Okoro becoming the next Isaac...

The Ringer (O’Connor) and SI (Woo) both have Okoro to PHX based on latest intel


I don't think they have much intel when it comes to the Suns. ZERO people seemed to know what they were going to do last year. The only person who might know something is Flex from Jersey.
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Post#2402 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:08 pm

The real appeal of Okoro is you need that big strong wing to throw at the elite guys like Lebron, kawhi, ect. Not that he can shut them down but he's at least strong enough to make them work.

I find his O troubling. If he learns to shoot he'll be a heck of a player but you can say that about a bunch of guys who never did.

I'd respect an Okoro pick because it's a big swing type, he certainly has the tools to be one of the best players in the whole draft.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch 

Post#2403 » by BobbieL » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:14 pm

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I'd be pretty shocked if we took him.


Hope you’re right because I don’t love it either. Would rather Vassell or a PG or at least someone who can shoot. Unless you can sell me on Okoro becoming the next Isaac...

The Ringer (O’Connor) and SI (Woo) both have Okoro to PHX based on latest intel


I don't think they have much intel when it comes to the Suns. ZERO people seemed to know what they were going to do last year. The only person who might know something is Flex from Jersey.


Flex tweeted earlier he thinks they will drop from 10 to maybe as low as 18 like they did last year with getting Saric and the pick.

Now, I think when I read that, with the Rockets now having the 16th pick - PJ Tucker for Frank makes some sense but they would 1) have to pick up his option 2) the Rockets would want Frank -- but it would save the Rockets some money I think between Tucker and Frank though offset by 10 and 16. Owners wants to cut payroll in Houston too

(I am going to preach this one like I did a couple years ago with Kemba or with Rubio until it doesn't happen!! :lol: :D I guess I got Rubio to Phoenix ))
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch 

Post#2404 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:14 pm

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We'll his offense is pretty bad, But he's elite defensively, AND actually has some underrated ball handling and playmaking ability ( think Iguodala). At this point, With our current roster and keeping Cam, I'd absolutely do it to provide another elite multipositional wing defender for us. Although I seriously doubt that it happens, As we're heavily rumored to be intent on trading back. I'm not happy about his shooting concerns, But again, With Paul, Booker, and Cam we should be ok. :wink:


I'd be pretty shocked if we took him.


Hope you’re right because I don’t love it either. Would rather Vassell or a PG or at least someone who can shoot. Unless you can sell me on Okoro becoming the next Isaac...

The Ringer (O’Connor) and SI (Woo) both have Okoro to PHX based on latest intel


I mean obviously IF we can't get Vassell at 10, It then makes much more sense to trade back pick up and additional vet player and an additional pick ( 2 picks). Then take a guard with the higher pick and specifically target Tyler Bey with the later first, Early 2nd. Tyler Bey is very similar to Vassell, At least as an elite and highly disruptive multipositional defender. But whose also efficient as a shooter at over 41% from three. But still low usage, And can legitimately guard positions 1-4. He's basically the defensive wing version of Haliburton, In that he's very high IQ, Elite in his skillset ( defensive playmaker). Very efficient,
Yet low usage! He's Long, rangy, Yet unlike Haliburton, He's actually very explosive and uber athletic. He's actually ( to me personally) The 2nd best multi positional wing defender in the entire draft. We need a strong defensive multipositional wing option to replace Oubre anyways. Tyler Bey averages around a double/ double and impacts the game all over the floor. :nod:
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Post#2405 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:56 pm

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Post#2407 » by thamadkant » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:14 pm

Suns need to fix their front court lack of athleticism and length... Right now.. It's just Ayton who covers those two.... Saric cannot guard athletic power forwards or centers.
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Post#2408 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:37 pm

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It seems hard to take him seriously on this, When he's " doubling down" on the Suns not having ANY INTEREST in any of Hayes, Haliburton, Terry. Especially when everyone knows how thin we are at backup guard. :roll:

I'm still going with a trade back scenario, But in that scenario I have their big board as:
1- Terry.
2- Desmond Bane.
3- Saddiq Bey.
4- Xavier Tillman.
5- Tyler Bey.
6*** Daniel Oturu ( Need a backup center with Baynes leaving). But can likely land Noel on the Bi Annual if Paul uses his influence some. :nod:
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Post#2409 » by Walt_Uoob » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:00 am

Revived wrote:Wouldn’t Desmond Bane be kinda redundant with Cam Johnson? I don’t know much about him but from what I’ve read on scouting sites, he seems to be exact same type of prospect.

I wouldn’t mind it though because they say while he lacks athleticism, he’s got great basketball IQ and a great 3pt shooting stroke.


I'm beginning to think this is Jones's draft M.O.! Feels he can identify the guys who are similar to himself, so he can just draft one every year or two and trade them off later for players at other positions. Kind of brilliant!

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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch 

Post#2410 » by Ghost of Kleine » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:07 am

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• Devin Vassell, Wing, Florida State
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Post#2412 » by darealjuice » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:20 am

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30321844/the-pain-promise-top-nba-draft-prospect-anthony-edwards

Might have been posted already, but I can’t say this interview with Edwards painted the picture of someone I’d be comfortable drafting high. Especially stuff about football being his first love, and that he’d leave basketball right away if he could go to the NFL.
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Lamar Stevens is yet another high value big 3/4 that fits the mold of a David West type of player for an undrafted prospect. Crazy that this draft actually has so much value outside of the lottery, And well into the 2nd round, If you only know what to look for!
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Post#2415 » by phx#7 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:32 am

darealjuice wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30321844/the-pain-promise-top-nba-draft-prospect-anthony-edwards

Might have been posted already, but I can’t say this interview with Edwards painted the picture of someone I’d be comfortable drafting high. Especially stuff about football being his first love, and that he’d leave basketball right away if he could go to the NFL.


That's funny, pretty much every non-QB would much rather be in the NBA. I don't really like any of the widely excepted top tier guys in this class. It really feels like with Ball especially people are trying to talk themselves into listing him as an elite prospect, and I just don't see it.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch 

Post#2416 » by darealjuice » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:36 am

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darealjuice wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30321844/the-pain-promise-top-nba-draft-prospect-anthony-edwards

Might have been posted already, but I can’t say this interview with Edwards painted the picture of someone I’d be comfortable drafting high. Especially stuff about football being his first love, and that he’d leave basketball right away if he could go
to the NFL.


That's funny, pretty much every non-QB would much rather be in the NBA. I don't really like any of the widely excepted top tier guys in this class. It really feels like with Ball especially people are trying to talk themselves into listing him as an elite prospect, and I just don't see it.


This dude is a candidate for the #1 pick and he says he can't watch basketball lol. As if the Wiggins vibes weren't already strong enough.
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Re: 2020 NBA Draft Prospect Watch 

Post#2417 » by bwgood77 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:26 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:The real appeal of Okoro is you need that big strong wing to throw at the elite guys like Lebron, kawhi, ect. Not that he can shut them down but he's at least strong enough to make them work.

I find his O troubling. If he learns to shoot he'll be a heck of a player but you can say that about a bunch of guys who never did.

I'd respect an Okoro pick because it's a big swing type, he certainly has the tools to be one of the best players in the whole draft.
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LeBron will be out of the league before a guy like Okoro would be ready to defend a guy like LeBron.

Some guys can become pretty elite defenders quickly, but guys like Draymond Green and Bridges spent 4 years in college. Okoro is as raw as they come.

He's also a terrible shooter and doesn't have a very high steal rate (less than 1 per game in over 31 mpg) which is usually a pretty good indicator of defense. Blocks either.

He's got nice bulk to body up guys or even to bulldoze to the rim, but his wingspan isn't impressive at all for someone who people sometimes talk about an elite defender (a little over 6'8).

I guess anyone can be a surprise break out...we've seen a lot of late picks on it, but he doesn't feel too safe, and I think we've taken plenty of big swings in the past 5 years that didn't pan out.
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Post#2418 » by bwgood77 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:29 am

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I need names...I may know who half of those guys are by face.
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Post#2419 » by bwgood77 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:31 am

Ghost of Kleine wrote:David Kevin (@theIVpointplay) Tweeted:
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It seems hard to take him seriously on this, When he's " doubling down" on the Suns not having ANY INTEREST in any of Hayes, Haliburton, Terry. Especially when everyone knows how thin we are at backup guard. :roll:

I'm still going with a trade back scenario, But in that scenario I have their big board as:
1- Terry.
2- Desmond Bane.
3- Saddiq Bey.
4- Xavier Tillman.
5- Tyler Bey.
6*** Daniel Oturu ( Need a backup center with Baynes leaving). But can likely land Noel on the Bi Annual if Paul uses his influence some. :nod:


Sure, no interest in Haliburton. He's about the most Jonesy player in the draft and exactly what we could use in our backcourt. I like the top 3 of Vassell, Bey and Bane though if he's right, but of course if a guy like Haliburton is there (or Hayes) that changes things.
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Post#2420 » by bwgood77 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:35 am

darealjuice wrote:
phx#7 wrote:
darealjuice wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30321844/the-pain-promise-top-nba-draft-prospect-anthony-edwards

Might have been posted already, but I can’t say this interview with Edwards painted the picture of someone I’d be comfortable drafting high. Especially stuff about football being his first love, and that he’d leave basketball right away if he could go
to the NFL.


That's funny, pretty much every non-QB would much rather be in the NBA. I don't really like any of the widely excepted top tier guys in this class. It really feels like with Ball especially people are trying to talk themselves into listing him as an elite prospect, and I just don't see it.


This dude is a candidate for the #1 pick and he says he can't watch basketball lol. As if the Wiggins vibes weren't already strong enough.


That sounds like Ayton who said "I just didn't understand watching others. I only watched myself."

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