2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 5 - The KD era begins

[bwgood77]

From the outside, it kinda looks like Monty has him on kind of a short leash and doesnt trust him over our other wings atm. It seemed like he got quick subs immediately after making mistakes during short stints on the floor on multiple occasions to me. I dunno, small sample and probly way off base.

That would explain the limited minutes so far. But it also wouldn’t bode well for his place on the team if Monty doesn’t view him as a plug-and-play contributor - hopefully he’ll have worked out some of the issues over the break to be able to stay on the floor.

Hard to know exactly if it's minutes restrictions or just lack of trust but I would probably just lean the latter. Monty's never worked with TJ before and given TJ has played less than 30 games after being away from the game for over two years, it's probably not a bad thing to be cautious. We also have good options like Ross, Okogie and Craig at the wings so I don't think right now we need to max TJ out on the floor.

There is a good chance TJ won't play much when we are completely healthy if Okogie keeps up his play because him, Craig and Lee have been with the team all year. It will be interesting to see what we promised Ross,if anything...he shot 29% from 3 last year and was 1/8 in his first game. If his shooting isn't there he won't add a whole lot more. Even the year before last he was only like 33.7% from 3.

So it will be interesting to see how the 5th starter and backup wings (2s-4s) shake out. I guess given we don't have any traditional 4s that should give TJ some minutes unless Craig is backup 4 and Okogie starts...not sure who would be the backup 3 then..you figure Shamet and Lee will get minutes so they could play with Payne, Craig and the C in Monty's needed "all bench" units.

[Qwigglez]

I didn't watch him play for the Lakers, but 100% (since I live near Portland) I saw him with the blazers a lot. He wasn't the Carmello you think of from 10 years ago. I don't think you're seeing KD and CP3 sing his praises for the sake of memories. He was big time off the bench for Portland. Again, I don't know where he's at right now but if he got 80% of what he had with the Blazers he's still a solid piece.

Man the snow here in Beaverton/Hillsboro was the most I seen since I been here. Yeah Melo was a nice addition to the Blazers bench. I really don't think Suns need another wing player like him though.

Were mere you here for the big ice storm like 5 years ago? Cars flipped upside down all along I-5. It was insane! Probably like 8 or 9 flipped cars just on the stretch from Salem to Portland and like every tree was split from the weight of the ice. Was wild.

Oh yeah I was here for that, just meant outside my house was the most snow I've seen. So pissed though because I wanted to go to the pinball museum.

[POLI]

Global warming.
Som they claim...

It's climate change

yes. 10 years ago it was global warming, now they've renamed it climate change. 20 years ago it was Ozone layer and Acid rain...cant keep up with agendas. Meanwhile these billionaires fly across the world multiple times a week leaving a carbon footprint bigger than ill ever leave in 40 life times... yea

That's it.
A complete agenda of lies.
Numbers do not support at all their speech, so they hide the numbers and just tell you to follow their orders.
Sea levels have not changed for longer than 130 years, as anyone can see in a photo (famous one of the Statue of Liberty).
Most temperatures are measured in meteorologic sites that are now inside the cities, and not in the outskirts, as 50 years ago were.
Forest surface is in a higher point since we have knowledge.
Ice surface is at a peak since we can calculate.
But they are telling the population to be scared.
AS you say, in the meanwhile, they fly almost daily to tell you to eat less meat and ride your bike and buy an expensive car that will be moved by electricity made in a combustion plant and whose batteries have no recycling possibilities at all.
Yet there are people who believe all this is true.
The same as with the birruss... still there are people who think all that was real and all meassurements had to be done for our safety.

[POLI]

That would explain the limited minutes so far. But it also wouldn’t bode well for his place on the team if Monty doesn’t view him as a plug-and-play contributor - hopefully he’ll have worked out some of the issues over the break to be able to stay on the floor.

Hard to know exactly if it's minutes restrictions or just lack of trust but I would probably just lean the latter. Monty's never worked with TJ before and given TJ has played less than 30 games after being away from the game for over two years, it's probably not a bad thing to be cautious. We also have good options like Ross, Okogie and Craig at the wings so I don't think right now we need to max TJ out on the floor.

There is a good chance TJ won't play much when we are completely healthy if Okogie keeps up his play because him, Craig and Lee have been with the team all year. It will be interesting to see what we promised Ross,if anything...he shot 29% from 3 last year and was 1/8 in his first game. If his shooting isn't there he won't add a whole lot more. Even the year before last he was only like 33.7% from 3.

So it will be interesting to see how the 5th starter and backup wings (2s-4s) shake out. I guess given we don't have any traditional 4s that should give TJ some minutes unless Craig is backup 4 and Okogie starts...not sure who would be the backup 3 then..you figure Shamet and Lee will get minutes so they could play with Payne, Craig and the C in Monty's needed "all bench" units.

True.
Ross is a very good player. Or scorer.
The thing with Orlando is that everybody plays one on one (except the Wagners) and Ross plays off the bench and has to create his shooting opportunities out of nothing and competing for options to shoot mostly with young players who do not have defined roles and lack experience and want to show they are useful and belong here.

[grumpysaddle]

It's climate change

yes. 10 years ago it was global warming, now they've renamed it climate change. 20 years ago it was Ozone layer and Acid rain...cant keep up with agendas. Meanwhile these billionaires fly across the world multiple times a week leaving a carbon footprint bigger than ill ever leave in 40 life times... yea

That's it.
A complete agenda of lies.
Numbers do not support at all their speech, so they hide the numbers and just tell you to follow their orders.
Sea levels have not changed for longer than 130 years, as anyone can see in a photo (famous one of the Statue of Liberty).
Most temperatures are measured in meteorologic sites that are now inside the cities, and not in the outskirts, as 50 years ago were.
Forest surface is in a higher point since we have knowledge.
Ice surface is at a peak since we can calculate.
But they are telling the population to be scared.
AS you say, in the meanwhile, they fly almost daily to tell you to eat less meat and ride your bike and buy an expensive car that will be moved by electricity made in a combustion plant and whose batteries have no recycling possibilities at all.
Yet there are people who believe all this is true.
The same as with the birruss... still there are people who think all that was real and all meassurements had to be done for our safety.

^^^ this guy.

[irish22022]

It's climate change

yes. 10 years ago it was global warming, now they've renamed it climate change. 20 years ago it was Ozone layer and Acid rain...cant keep up with agendas. Meanwhile these billionaires fly across the world multiple times a week leaving a carbon footprint bigger than ill ever leave in 40 life times... yea

That's it.
A complete agenda of lies.
Numbers do not support at all their speech, so they hide the numbers and just tell you to follow their orders.
Sea levels have not changed for longer than 130 years, as anyone can see in a photo (famous one of the Statue of Liberty).
Most temperatures are measured in meteorologic sites that are now inside the cities, and not in the outskirts, as 50 years ago were.
Forest surface is in a higher point since we have knowledge.
Ice surface is at a peak since we can calculate.
But they are telling the population to be scared.
AS you say, in the meanwhile, they fly almost daily to tell you to eat less meat and ride your bike and buy an expensive car that will be moved by electricity made in a combustion plant and whose batteries have no recycling possibilities at all.
Yet there are people who believe all this is true.
The same as with the birruss... still there are people who think all that was real and all meassurements had to be done for our safety.

Sorry but that statue of liberty example is the most flat out (Please Use More Appropriate Word) comment I have ever read on the internet. Are you a **** flat earther?

You understand sea levels can be higher in different places on the earth right?? As they rise near the poles (there are pictures for that, too, if you cared) it changes the gravitational weight of the planet. As you may have heard, the planet is round, but actually bulbus in the middle.

Other factors that affect sea levels in different areas: ocean current, subsidiaries, sea depth, land elevation, THE **** MOON, I mean, Jesus, are you really looking at pictures of the statue of liberty and deciding people are lying to you? What is like being you? This is absolutely insane.

[matt131]

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We going for the “most injury prone team to win a championship” title

[WeekapaugGroove]

Don't argue with idiots, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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[flagstaff]

yes. 10 years ago it was global warming, now they've renamed it climate change. 20 years ago it was Ozone layer and Acid rain...cant keep up with agendas. Meanwhile these billionaires fly across the world multiple times a week leaving a carbon footprint bigger than ill ever leave in 40 life times... yea

That's it.
A complete agenda of lies.
Numbers do not support at all their speech, so they hide the numbers and just tell you to follow their orders.
Sea levels have not changed for longer than 130 years, as anyone can see in a photo (famous one of the Statue of Liberty).
Most temperatures are measured in meteorologic sites that are now inside the cities, and not in the outskirts, as 50 years ago were.
Forest surface is in a higher point since we have knowledge.
Ice surface is at a peak since we can calculate.
But they are telling the population to be scared.
AS you say, in the meanwhile, they fly almost daily to tell you to eat less meat and ride your bike and buy an expensive car that will be moved by electricity made in a combustion plant and whose batteries have no recycling possibilities at all.
Yet there are people who believe all this is true.
The same as with the birruss... still there are people who think all that was real and all meassurements had to be done for our safety.

Sorry but that statue of liberty example is the most flat out (Please Use More Appropriate Word) comment I have ever read on the internet. Are you a **** flat earther?

You understand sea levels can be higher in different places on the earth right?? As they rise near the poles (there are pictures for that, too, if you cared) it changes the gravitational weight of the planet. As you may have heard, the planet is round, but actually bulbus in the middle. Just watch the Inconvenient Truth and the coasts should already be feeling the effects of climate change/global warming already. It was just a bunch of lies.

Other factors that affect sea levels in different areas: ocean current, subsidiaries, sea depth, land elevation, THE **** MOON, I mean, Jesus, are you really looking at pictures of the statue of liberty and deciding people are lying to you? What is like being you? This is absolutely insane.

[RaisingArizona]

[Cutter]

It's climate change

yes. 10 years ago it was global warming, now they've renamed it climate change. 20 years ago it was Ozone layer and Acid rain...cant keep up with agendas. Meanwhile these billionaires fly across the world multiple times a week leaving a carbon footprint bigger than ill ever leave in 40 life times... yea

That's it.
A complete agenda of lies.
Numbers do not support at all their speech, so they hide the numbers and just tell you to follow their orders.
Sea levels have not changed for longer than 130 years, as anyone can see in a photo (famous one of the Statue of Liberty).
Most temperatures are measured in meteorologic sites that are now inside the cities, and not in the outskirts, as 50 years ago were.
Forest surface is in a higher point since we have knowledge.
Ice surface is at a peak since we can calculate.
But they are telling the population to be scared.
AS you say, in the meanwhile, they fly almost daily to tell you to eat less meat and ride your bike and buy an expensive car that will be moved by electricity made in a combustion plant and whose batteries have no recycling possibilities at all.
Yet there are people who believe all this is true.
The same as with the birruss... still there are people who think all that was real and all meassurements had to be done for our safety.

I think there is a political board on this site for these types of posts. Please post there.

[grumpysaddle]

yes. 10 years ago it was global warming, now they've renamed it climate change. 20 years ago it was Ozone layer and Acid rain...cant keep up with agendas. Meanwhile these billionaires fly across the world multiple times a week leaving a carbon footprint bigger than ill ever leave in 40 life times... yea

That's it.
A complete agenda of lies.
Numbers do not support at all their speech, so they hide the numbers and just tell you to follow their orders.
Sea levels have not changed for longer than 130 years, as anyone can see in a photo (famous one of the Statue of Liberty).
Most temperatures are measured in meteorologic sites that are now inside the cities, and not in the outskirts, as 50 years ago were.
Forest surface is in a higher point since we have knowledge.
Ice surface is at a peak since we can calculate.
But they are telling the population to be scared.
AS you say, in the meanwhile, they fly almost daily to tell you to eat less meat and ride your bike and buy an expensive car that will be moved by electricity made in a combustion plant and whose batteries have no recycling possibilities at all.
Yet there are people who believe all this is true.
The same as with the birruss... still there are people who think all that was real and all meassurements had to be done for our safety.

I think there is a political board on this site for these types of posts. Please post there.

That's not even politics though. That's just lunacy.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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We need to find a way to resign him! NON NEGOTIABLE!!!

[Ghost of Kleine]

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We going for the “most injury prone team to win a championship” title

Thank god!

[Saberestar]

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We going for the “most injury prone team to win a championship” title

Oh my, I have been talking about getting Derrick Rose as a backup PG for three years now.

His production isn't the same as it was in 2020-2021, but he is good enough to play minutes here and there. I would love to watch him on the Suns.

[WeekapaugGroove]

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We need to find a way to resign him! NON NEGOTIABLE!!!

If he continues to ball out the path is offer him the MLE on a two year deal with a player option. Lands him a nice raise and the ability to opt out again the following season. At that point they would have 'early bird rights' and can then offer him 175% of his prior year contract without tapping into that summers MLE.

But we have a long ways to go before this is a thing. He's had 4 good games, 4.

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[Ghost of Kleine]

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[Slim Charless]

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We going for the “most injury prone team to win a championship” title

Oh my, I have been talking about getting Derrick Rose as a backup PG for three years now.

His production isn't the same as it was in 2020-2021, but he is good enough to play minutes here and there. I would love to watch him on the Suns.

Well, all we really need is like 15 mins a game or so. If that. When Pain actually decides to play basketball again, we'll have a decent back-up point guard. Rose I guess would offer a counter balance and someone who offers a backup to our back-up.

I think Melo is the better player, but Rose is probably more valuable to what this team needs right now. Until Pain gets back, we have no point guard after cp3.

[King4Day]

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I enjoy Dave Kings articles and his former podcast, but when I ask him questions or make comments to some of his posts, I always feel like he is very short and impatient with his responses.
I noted it was weird to hear Jaque Vaughn calling Cam Johnson CJ, and he responded with "How dare he". It may not seem like much but I never said, 'what the hell is wrong with him, Cam only has one name'. It just strange to hear a different nickname because nobody with the Suns ever called him that.
I've had a few other instances with him over the last year+ that bothers me. My least favorite Suns media person.