2023-24 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - A Rocky Start

[sunsfan1o1]

Also the accuser with miles bridges sounds like a crazy women

Bridges says on three separate occasions, including just two days after he accepted a plea deal to close out his criminal case with Johnson, she's showed up to his home or places he's staying and harassed him, causing him emotional distress and anxiety.

And tried breaking window with hose nozzle !!!

Sounds like she was a winner yall support

I don’t know why you’re even arguing with these guys. They’re simps. Women can do no wrong to them.
Miles Bridges was wrong and paid the consequences. I’m sure that lady was/is a nightmare to be with. Women don’t just get beat for no reason.
Bridges just has very low emotional intelligence. Hopefully for him he can figure it out.
Im always gonna be on the side of helping black men. Not continuing to bash and destroy them.

There are horribly scummy women out there that’s agreeable. But not every man decides to snap and square up to punch them right in the face when he spots a perfect opportunity. How about moving out is the best option and solution. Obviously going to the cops will not accomplish much that’s a certain. But there are definitely ways around the system then decking the female and causing yourself to lose your job. At least Bridges is lucky that he’s a millionaire and kept his job while many others aren’t so lucky.

Read what I said again. The part about Bridges has very low emotional intelligence. You’re right not everyone beats them. Low emotional iq men do or men who are being abused themselves.
But everyone always takes the side of the women. Especially white women because they’re manipulative Karens

[enigmatics]

I don’t live with my mom though and I actually have played sports at a professional level.

What have you done ?

YMCA and your mom's back yard ain't a "professional" level bruh.

[enigmatics]

I don’t know why you’re even arguing with these guys. They’re simps. Women can do no wrong to them.
Miles Bridges was wrong and paid the consequences. I’m sure that lady was/is a nightmare to be with. Women don’t just get beat for no reason.
Bridges just has very low emotional intelligence. Hopefully for him he can figure it out.
Im always gonna be on the side of helping black men. Not continuing to bash and destroy them.

Women don't get beat for no reason? That's the hill you're dying on?

What a scumbag.

[enigmatics]

Says the guy nut hugging Miles Bridges. You're holding onto those things like they're a pull-up bar. Something I don't think he can do-or you for that matter lol.

Dude definitely bought an MB blow up doll.

He's gonna hate bang that thing and then afterwards beat the sh- out of it because it talked back to him. Then he'll call up SunsFan101 to go grab a cosmopolitan and celebrate.

[sunsfan1o1]

I don’t know why you’re even arguing with these guys. They’re simps. Women can do no wrong to them.
Miles Bridges was wrong and paid the consequences. I’m sure that lady was/is a nightmare to be with. Women don’t just get beat for no reason.
Bridges just has very low emotional intelligence. Hopefully for him he can figure it out.
Im always gonna be on the side of helping black men. Not continuing to bash and destroy them.

Women don't get beat for no reason? That's the hill you're dying on?

What a scumbag.

Yup. For example if you were to get beat up it would probably be cuz you’re a douchebag. See. There’s a reason for everything

[enigmatics]

I don’t know why you’re even arguing with these guys. They’re simps. Women can do no wrong to them.
Miles Bridges was wrong and paid the consequences. I’m sure that lady was/is a nightmare to be with. Women don’t just get beat for no reason.
Bridges just has very low emotional intelligence. Hopefully for him he can figure it out.
Im always gonna be on the side of helping black men. Not continuing to bash and destroy them.

Women don't get beat for no reason? That's the hill you're dying on?

What a scumbag.

Yup. For example if you were to get beat up it would probably be cuz you’re a douchebag. See. There’s a reason for everything

That's the best ya got for me?

[enigmatics]

But, but, but last night they lost a one bucket game because they're the "worstest" and don't show effort.

Hoping it's not a break, but it's not likely.

Read on Twitter

[SunsRback4Good]

If Suns somehow acquired Caruso and Craig for Grayson Allen, Little, 2nd rounder would most here be satisfied?

[enigmatics]

If Suns somehow acquired Caruso and Craig for Grayson Allen, Little, 2nd rounder would most here be satisfied?

If Eric Gordon wasn't such an insignificant slob I might consider it.

[Calvin Klein]

Next time I get into an argument I'm pulling the "you're soft" card right away. That's a winner right there.

[SunsRback4Good]

Next time I get into an argument I'm pulling the "you're soft" card right away. That's a winner right there.

Don’t say “ you’re soft” towards me though. Every time I find a date and later in the night I unzip my pants every single chick says “ your soft what’s the matter” as I walk away ashamed.

I walk a lonely road
The only one that I have ever known
Don't know where it goes
But it's home to me, and I walk alone

[Ghost of Kleine]

With the current report coming out that the three teams interested in Bridges being US, the Pistons an the Jazz, as well as the controversy attached for whichever team does trade for him, do you guys think there could be a 3 team scenario wherein Bridges goes to either the pistons or the Jazz (along with Little/ 2nds)? and we get back some contributory pieces in the deal? Maybe as a 3rd team facilitator we could do something like:

IF Bridges goes to Utah

Charlotte- Collins / Eubanks/ 1st (from Utah)/ Phoenix 2 2nds? Utah's been wanting to move him, and Collins would give the hornets more size, athleticism upfront and with Miller at 6'9 at the SF spot, they could play a huge lineup in the frontcourt while also pulling draft assets from Utah (for taking Collins), AND 2nds from us too.

Utah- Miles Bridges/ Nassir Little? The Jazz are seemingly very interested in Bridges and we could help them get him while also helping them get off of Collins deal by facilitation? Bridges would be their centerpiece swap for Collins, And Little would give them a young athletic depth piece to bolster their wing spot.

Phoenix- Either Olynyk/ Richards OR THT/ Richards? ..............Then toss (our 6.5 million exception)and our other two 2nds at Philly for KJ Martin Jr and Pat Bev? OR Oubre and KJ Martin Jr? Philly will be a prime destination for Lowry once bought out by Charlotte due to his connection with Nurse, his time playing for Villanova, and the 76ers being an east coast contender, BUT they currently have a full roster and will need to lose a player or two to create a spot for him and any other possible buyout target. We could help them get Lowry, while also screwing any western conference contenders from possibly adding him via buyout. A bench of
Beverly/Gordon/Martin Jr/Olynyk/Richards is really intriuging to me. I also really like the size, mix of athleticism and defensive energy too.


IF Bridges goes to the Pistons
(wanting a big contract and being from Michigan), Then maybe we can operate as a 3rd team facilitator in some manner to get something decent back?

Pistons- Bridges/ Bates Diop.
Charlotte- Little/ Eubanks/ Detroit 1st/ Phoenix 2 2nds.
Phoenix- Burks/ Richards/ Sasser.

*** I only say Burks because I don't think we could get Monte Morris for our assets, BUT Richards would be our centerpiece and Burks could add shooting and versatility at multiple positions for his size. AND Marcus Sasser is a sneaky good young version in a similar mold to Morris coincedentally. Then we'd have two 2nds and our exceptions that we could offer up to Philly for some combination of KJ Martin and Pat Bev or KJ Martin and Oubre. This would give them extra draft assets AND open up a spot or two from their full roster so they can sign Lowry (per rumors) once he gets bought out from Charlotte.

[Fo-Real]

Your'e one of those guys huh? Please, never procreate.

This board is sensitive as hell.

So you’re siding with DoubleD’s?

It's the snide personal attacks and catty bitch type retorts. If I said I agreed with him on one single point (which I didn't say I did), you would try to convince me of my entire moral fiber as decided by you. It's comical and you have no assumed moral higround no matter the delusion.

I don't want Bridges because he dosnt fit in my opinion. Not that I don't care about his sordid past, just that I don't pretend that any of us know anything about how terrible some of the players are or not. I dont pretend to know what those young adults said or got into to have such a terrible event happen. I was raised never to have physical violence but don't know if Bridges or his ex wife was or who hit who first, but can tell you that it was one reason I left my ex wife. She was raised to hit and staying there could have led to something terrible possibly.

I wouldn't judge our owner if he decided to give someone he knew as a kid another chance, ITS HIS MONEY AND FRANCHISE. Bottom line, who am I to judge, what will be will be weather it hurts your **** feelings, or not.

[Fo-Real]

I don’t live with my mom though and I actually have played sports at a professional level.

What have you done ?

YMCA and your mom's back yard ain't a "professional" level bruh.

CATTY BITCH!! Stop with the feelings, argue facts. I don't side with that dude but this type **** is low brow. Should beneath someone who is supposedly resting atop such a high moral horse.

[Fo-Real]

Next time I get into an argument I'm pulling the "you're soft" card right away. That's a winner right there.

That's a soft heads up but thanks

[Slim Charless]

This board is sensitive as hell.

I have kids and one is a top ranked pitcher in the country, the other are competitive cheerleaders.

I have followed this case and dudes ex for years. People get second chances and get better.

Y’all are soft and a bunch of whiny old men

Nobody believe this.

That line about having daughters is 100% false. It's the incel equivalent of "I have plenty of black friends" when saying something racist.

I don't believe he has daughters for 1 second.

[Slim Charless]

You going to cancel him ? Cry about him? Gang up on him ?

Y’all are soft and sensitive.

Nah, far from it I just asked him a simple question. Of course Bridges deserves a second chance but I don’t believe it should be with this team. I’m sure you remember Jerry Colangelo and how he refuses to bring these type of knuckleheads to our team. He got rid of Kidd immediately after domestic violence and Robert Horry gone too after on-court altercation with coach Danny Ainge, during which Horry threw a towel at Ainge. Colangelo did not mess around and neither should Matt.

And this is why he never won a championship. Colangelo was a simp. An emotional man raised by a Karen.

No dipf***

I'm not supporting either one. I don't want Miles on this team or any other. I don't think he should be allowed to play in the NBA ever again.

No NBA contract for him=no NBA money for her.

No one gets paid.

[Revived]

I’m sure that lady was/is a nightmare to be with. Women don’t just get beat for no reason.

Jesus.

Im always gonna be on the side of helping black men. Not continuing to bash and destroy them.

Ah okay so if this was a white, Hispanic or Asian guy, you wouldn’t have the same energy?

That’s awfully nice of you to pick which DV abuser to support based on their ethnicity.

[Ghost of Kleine]

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/

Pacific notes, Suns rumors, Caruso, Clippers, Powell, Barnes
January 27th, 2024 at 4:00pm CST by Luke Adams

Within a look at some of the potential trade targets who have recently been linked to the Suns, Gerald Bourguet of PHNX Sports reports that a source close to the situation has described Phoenix as “very confident” about its ability to make a competitive offer for Hornets forward Miles Bridges. Bourguet adds that Charlotte center Nick Richards is also a target, but that the team would likely only be able to acquire one Hornet or the other due to salary-matching considerations.

Bourguet also confirms that Nets forward Royce O’Neale is a legitimate target for the Suns, observing that O’Neale is more attainable than Dorian Finney-Smith due to his expiring contract and smaller cap hit.

The Suns would almost certainly need to use Nassir Little ($6.25MM) as their primary outgoing salary piece in any trade and would need to get to within 10% of the incoming salary, so acquiring a player who is earning much more than O’Neale ($9.5MM) would be tricky. Phoenix would presumably need to add one or two minimum-salary players and multiple second-round picks to its package for either Bridges or O’Neale.

The buyout market could also prove fruitful for the Suns, Bourguet writes, even though they’ll be prohibited from signing a player whose pre-waiver salary exceeds $12.4MM. P.J. Tucker would have interest in Phoenix IF he’s bought out, according to Bourguet, who says the team has also been in touch with center Bismack Biyombo, a current free agent.

A few points on this that I have though:
1- I don't believe that Gerald Bourget is right regarding not being able to also trade for Nik Richards. I mean did he forget that we have BOTH a $5 million trade exception AND/OR a $6.5 million trade exception that we could absorb Richards salary into?? And additionally attach two 2nds to in the deal? Very simply, we'd only need to do two separate deals here:

Trade #1
Little/ Eubanks or Metu for Bridges. And then follow it up with our $5 million trade exception + 2 2nds for Richards.

Trade #2
Our $5 million trade exception (dario trade) + 2 2nds perhaps?
This way, Charlotte would get a young promising wing player and a backup center option for Bridges rather than just losing him for nothing altogether. And 2 2nds and a cheaper replacement center option for Richards.

2- I wouldn't at all pay 2-3 2nds in a deal for O' neale as he's really only moderately better than Okogie due to his shooting. So unless Okogie would be outgoing in the deal, we'd be giving up assets for redundancy. And as much as people may have genuine interest in O'neale, we could just as easily outright sign Stanley Johnson for the vets minimum without having to give up assets that could be used to acquire/fill other positions of need. And Johnson by the way already has experience with Vogel from his time on the flakers, AND Johnson just happened to shoot 45% from three while playing for the Spurs in 2023 while having similar or better size at 6'6 242 lbs.

3- Biyombo is a very solid consideration (defensively) for a regular season buyout option consideration. BUT He'd be useless to us in the playoffs due to his atrocious free throw struggles as he'd be hunted endlessly in "hack a shaq" type schemes to our detriment. We need legit options we can play without those glaring target weaknesses.

[enigmatics]

I don’t live with my mom though and I actually have played sports at a professional level.

What have you done ?

YMCA and your mom's back yard ain't a "professional" level bruh.

CATTY BITCH!! Stop with the feelings, argue facts. I don't side with that dude but this type **** is low brow. Should beneath someone who is supposedly resting atop such a high moral horse.

He brings it on himself.

The moment the other side won't concede to him it turns into "you don't know basketbal bro" or "you're a hater / you're an old head go back to your family instead of posting on NBA sites." Let's not forget his veiled, laughable physical threats at me in the Ayton threads this past summer. Cluster B behavior man.

...... and yes I do have a morality line. That one includes not rooting on players who literally beat the hell out of their wife in front of their child and an individual who's shown absolutely no grace or sign of rehabilitation. The dude literally violated court orders along the way btw.

I know that it's an angle some are clearly incapable of understanding because a Suns championship may or may not fill some kind of void in their lives, but I don't care.