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2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 5 - The KD era begins

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What do you think our chances are of winning the West and the Championship if we win the West?

20-30% we win west, 70-80% someone else in field does
6
10%
30-40% we win west, 60-70% someone else in field does
12
19%
40-50% we win west, 50-60% someone else in field does
7
11%
Greater than 50% we win west, less than 50% someone else in field does
5
8%
IF we win west, 50/50 chance we win vs east team
17
27%
IF we win west, greater than 50% chance we win vs east team
8
13%
IF we win west, less than 50% chance we win vs east team
7
11%
 
Total votes: 62

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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 5 - The KD era begins 

Post#2481 » by POLI » Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:32 pm

bigfoot wrote:
POLI wrote:
sunsbum wrote:yes. 10 years ago it was global warming, now they've renamed it climate change. 20 years ago it was Ozone layer and Acid rain...cant keep up with agendas. Meanwhile these billionaires fly across the world multiple times a week leaving a carbon footprint bigger than ill ever leave in 40 life times... yea :D



That's it.
A complete agenda of lies.
Numbers do not support at all their speech, so they hide the numbers and just tell you to follow their orders.
Sea levels have not changed for longer than 130 years, as anyone can see in a photo (famous one of the Statue of Liberty).
Most temperatures are measured in meteorologic sites that are now inside the cities, and not in the outskirts, as 50 years ago were.
Forest surface is in a higher point since we have knowledge.
Ice surface is at a peak since we can calculate.
But they are telling the population to be scared.
AS you say, in the meanwhile, they fly almost daily to tell you to eat less meat and ride your bike and buy an expensive car that will be moved by electricity made in a combustion plant and whose batteries have no recycling possibilities at all.
Yet there are people who believe all this is true.
The same as with the birruss... still there are people who think all that was real and all meassurements had to be done for our safety.


Remote sensing using satellite images for change detection is quite a simple concept. The easiet way to think about it is taking a self portrait with your camera phone twice a month for your entire life. Sequence those pictures in a movie and you will see how you change and age...

;ab_channel=NoahKalina

The Landsat program has been doing this exact same thing since the early 1970's. Landsat camera's take a picture of every point on earth about twice per month and have been doing so for 50 years. It is undeniable the Earth has changed over those 50 years. When I was working in this area we called it change detection. You could clearly see areas impacted by forest fires, cattle grazing, bark beetle infestations, and receding mountain glaciers. Coastal changes were obvious for beach erosion and sediment transfer into ocean deltas.

Later, people doing research with Landsat data starting coining terms like climate change and global warming. We'd be fools not to believe that humans aren't contributing to those changes at some level. Whether these changes are good or bad is really up to debate but quite a few big temperature swings on Earth have happened in the last 100000 years based on studies of Greenland ice cores. Those swings could be induced by a host of geologic, oceanic, and atmospheric phenomena. It is likely humans are accelerating changes in the later two.

The same applies to the virus. Science and data from our recent and past pandemics show it is real. We see how a different pandemic is working through chicken farms and increasing cost of eggs. It sucks that some people experienced family and friends who died as a direct or indirect result of the virus. My guess is you didn't have anyone you care about impacted. Lucky you, but maybe if you could think about it a bit harder you would be able to show some empathy to your fellow human beings instead of just being an uneducated turd.



Let's agree this is true, which I deny.

Then:

1. Change in temperatures, even profound, quick changes have been going on and off on Earth as back as we can have knowledge of it. The last glaciation was around 12.600. It is much more probable that we die from low temperatures than from high ones, although I know that an extreme global warming could bring a subsequential cold period.

2. CO2 is responsible for 2% of the change in temperatures. Other factors are responsible FOR 98% of temperature changes.

3. Humankind is responsible for the creation of just around 2-3% of CO2 (volcanos are responsible for 98%).

That makes us responsible for just much less than 0.5% of the CO2 created.

So, should we change dramatically the way Western social class live (elites are not changing a bit) while the rest of the Planet is burning coal and oil, because they know the West is self-destructing itself?

Other questions could be: what happened to the ozone hole? Gone forever?
What happened to increasing sea levels? A lie?
What can we think of the end of the oil era? Another lie, as oil continues to leak out of the Earth in a never ending process, or so it seems?

Just the emissions by the Air Force One from Washington ti Ucraine and back amount for the emissions of an average USA family for its entire life. Who is then causing the damage?

All this is so evident, ridiculous and ashaming that it is a pity we are not all together to kick all politicians out of their armchairs and then do the same with the Rockefellers, Blackrocks, Vanguaards, PJ Morgans and the rest of the elites that try to control us.
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Re: 2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 5 - The KD era begins 

Post#2482 » by starbosa10 » Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:35 pm

Thought I was here to talk about the Phoenix suns??
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Post#2483 » by Nando88 » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:34 pm

All this political talk is lame. Exchange numbers or emails and take it there please
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Post#2484 » by grumpysaddle » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:37 pm

POLI wrote:
schnakenpopanz wrote:
grumpysaddle wrote:Sorry to hear that about your dad and other family member. My condolences. If idiot deniers didn't exist, things could have worked out so much differently.


Thanks a lot, i 100% agree. But this is not the place and time to discuss things like this. But when I read posts like the one quoted, I can not hold back at times.



Deaths and serious health issues linked to vaccines are now so obvious (as they are registered, saved and printed in the documents of Pfizer, Astra Zeneca, etc) and tests on people were so outrageously faked that there is no doubt this was done with a wide knowledge of the companies and authorities.
This is why most politicians (if not all) and all men in power have never been inoculated.
In my triathlon team, for not going further, two people have died and two more have serious heart problems. None of then had any previous heart condition.
My prother, also in the team, and who is a doctor, got two vaccines because he was forced to. Now he is not taking any more and he has repented himself. He had to have a holter a few weeks ago because of discomfort and arrythmias, which he never had before.

I cannot understand how you are unable to see all the damage. So many women with period problems, so many abortions, so many skin problems.

To understand this one should raise one important question: how many hours of epidemiology does a doctor receive during his time at university. I will answer that: ZERO.
So a doctor is not prepared to tell anybody what to do vaccine related.

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Post#2485 » by grumpysaddle » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:41 pm

POLI wrote:
bigfoot wrote:
POLI wrote:

That's it.
A complete agenda of lies.
Numbers do not support at all their speech, so they hide the numbers and just tell you to follow their orders.
Sea levels have not changed for longer than 130 years, as anyone can see in a photo (famous one of the Statue of Liberty).
Most temperatures are measured in meteorologic sites that are now inside the cities, and not in the outskirts, as 50 years ago were.
Forest surface is in a higher point since we have knowledge.
Ice surface is at a peak since we can calculate.
But they are telling the population to be scared.
AS you say, in the meanwhile, they fly almost daily to tell you to eat less meat and ride your bike and buy an expensive car that will be moved by electricity made in a combustion plant and whose batteries have no recycling possibilities at all.
Yet there are people who believe all this is true.
The same as with the birruss... still there are people who think all that was real and all meassurements had to be done for our safety.


Remote sensing using satellite images for change detection is quite a simple concept. The easiet way to think about it is taking a self portrait with your camera phone twice a month for your entire life. Sequence those pictures in a movie and you will see how you change and age...

;ab_channel=NoahKalina

The Landsat program has been doing this exact same thing since the early 1970's. Landsat camera's take a picture of every point on earth about twice per month and have been doing so for 50 years. It is undeniable the Earth has changed over those 50 years. When I was working in this area we called it change detection. You could clearly see areas impacted by forest fires, cattle grazing, bark beetle infestations, and receding mountain glaciers. Coastal changes were obvious for beach erosion and sediment transfer into ocean deltas.

Later, people doing research with Landsat data starting coining terms like climate change and global warming. We'd be fools not to believe that humans aren't contributing to those changes at some level. Whether these changes are good or bad is really up to debate but quite a few big temperature swings on Earth have happened in the last 100000 years based on studies of Greenland ice cores. Those swings could be induced by a host of geologic, oceanic, and atmospheric phenomena. It is likely humans are accelerating changes in the later two.

The same applies to the virus. Science and data from our recent and past pandemics show it is real. We see how a different pandemic is working through chicken farms and increasing cost of eggs. It sucks that some people experienced family and friends who died as a direct or indirect result of the virus. My guess is you didn't have anyone you care about impacted. Lucky you, but maybe if you could think about it a bit harder you would be able to show some empathy to your fellow human beings instead of just being an uneducated turd.



Let's agree this is true, which I deny.

Then:

1. Change in temperatures, even profound, quick changes have been going on and off on Earth as back as we can have knowledge of it. The last glaciation was around 12.600. It is much more probable that we die from low temperatures than from high ones, although I know that an extreme global warming could bring a subsequential cold period.

2. CO2 is responsible for 2% of the change in temperatures. Other factors are responsible FOR 98% of temperature changes.

3. Humankind is responsible for the creation of just around 2-3% of CO2 (volcanos are responsible for 98%).

That makes us responsible for just much less than 0.5% of the CO2 created.

So, should we change dramatically the way Western social class live (elites are not changing a bit) while the rest of the Planet is burning coal and oil, because they know the West is self-destructing itself?

Other questions could be: what happened to the ozone hole? Gone forever?
What happened to increasing sea levels? A lie?
What can we think of the end of the oil era? Another lie, as oil continues to leak out of the Earth in a never ending process, or so it seems?

Just the emissions by the Air Force One from Washington ti Ucraine and back amount for the emissions of an average USA family for its entire life. Who is then causing the damage?

All this is so evident, ridiculous and ashaming that it is a pity we are not all together to kick all politicians out of their armchairs and then do the same with the Rockefellers, Blackrocks, Vanguaards, PJ Morgans and the rest of the elites that try to control us.



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Post#2486 » by bigfoot » Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:59 pm

If Rose becomes available do you pick him up and waive TJ Warren?
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Post#2487 » by sunskerr » Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:05 pm

bigfoot wrote:If Rose becomes available do you pick him up and waive TJ Warren?


Ah geez thats a toughie. I still find TJ Warren as a wing to be more valuable even if hes buried. Each wing we have has various strengths and these are important when it comes down to different playoffs matchups. Derrick Rose is a 3rd string PG who can only play PG, whilst wings can play through SG-SF-PF and in Ish's case, C. And I don't think Rose is particularly a different player than Cam Payne.

Tough very tough. I'm just sort of disappointed Warren has been nailed to the bench.

edit: waive Bazley?
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Post#2488 » by flagstaff » Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:17 pm

sunskerr wrote:We are stomping teams and we don't even have our best player. Okogies gonna get poached for sure this summer. Glad Ish got bumped up as big wings are always nice to have.

Ross has been great too. Suddenly that depth ain't too bad although we'll know for sure in the playoffs.

Btw whats the deal with Warren? Guy has played like sub 10 minutes now DNP. Is he cooked? Monty playing favorites? Still injured? We've been winning but you'd hope he can be the bench scorer in the playoffs.
Is it definitive we couldn't resign Okogie? Is it the fact that we are in the luxury tax and would cost much more than his contract? 10 million is not out of line and would be better than adding someone for the minimum to sit on the bench. Not my money though. Just curious as I really don't know why we wouldn't keep him over the alternative unless he gets an insane offer.
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Post#2489 » by KLEON » Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:18 pm

JJ and whoever better make sure Okogie is back next season
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Post#2490 » by KdoubleDees23 » Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:20 pm

First off ! Vaccine is crap and always has been! Long term side effects will keep coming as the years continue !

Second

I’ll take Rose over Warren any day of the week
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Post#2491 » by TOO » Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:45 pm

Can y'all stop with whatever vaccine narrative you wanna push, on both sides, it's a **** basketball forum, get outta here with this ****.
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Post#2492 » by TOO » Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:19 pm

grumpysaddle wrote:
POLI wrote:
schnakenpopanz wrote:
Thanks a lot, i 100% agree. But this is not the place and time to discuss things like this. But when I read posts like the one quoted, I can not hold back at times.



Deaths and serious health issues linked to vaccines are now so obvious (as they are registered, saved and printed in the documents of Pfizer, Astra Zeneca, etc) and tests on people were so outrageously faked that there is no doubt this was done with a wide knowledge of the companies and authorities.
This is why most politicians (if not all) and all men in power have never been inoculated.
In my triathlon team, for not going further, two people have died and two more have serious heart problems. None of then had any previous heart condition.
My prother, also in the team, and who is a doctor, got two vaccines because he was forced to. Now he is not taking any more and he has repented himself. He had to have a holter a few weeks ago because of discomfort and arrythmias, which he never had before.

I cannot understand how you are unable to see all the damage. So many women with period problems, so many abortions, so many skin problems.

To understand this one should raise one important question: how many hours of epidemiology does a doctor receive during his time at university. I will answer that: ZERO.
So a doctor is not prepared to tell anybody what to do vaccine related.

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Post#2493 » by NavLDO » Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:24 pm

sunskerr wrote:
bigfoot wrote:If Rose becomes available do you pick him up and waive TJ Warren?


Ah geez thats a toughie. I still find TJ Warren as a wing to be more valuable even if hes buried. Each wing we have has various strengths and these are important when it comes down to different playoffs matchups. Derrick Rose is a 3rd string PG who can only play PG, whilst wings can play through SG-SF-PF and in Ish's case, C. And I don't think Rose is particularly a different player than Cam Payne.

Tough very tough. I'm just sort of disappointed Warren has been nailed to the bench.

edit: waive Bazley?


I wouldn't mind signing Rose, but only if we were dropping Shamet somehow, considering Shamet is our Emergency PG (In theory...I think we all know that Booker would be pushing it up, if both Payne and CP were down...). But if we add Rose, than we have a legitimate PG, then Shamet can can be dumped. Easy for me to say, as I will not be paying his $10M salary, plus whatever penalty, and Rose's contract too boot, haha...

I've got ZERO idea how all this can all be accomplished under the CBA, if it can at all, but if so, that's the easy anser to keep the best 15. If we have to lose Warren for Rose, then I'd rather keep TJ. But I too, am worried, and wondering why he isn't playing. I guess I figured we requested Warren come back in the trade, but maybe not??
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Post#2494 » by Slim Charless » Sat Feb 25, 2023 9:28 pm

NavLDO wrote:
sunskerr wrote:
bigfoot wrote:If Rose becomes available do you pick him up and waive TJ Warren?


Ah geez thats a toughie. I still find TJ Warren as a wing to be more valuable even if hes buried. Each wing we have has various strengths and these are important when it comes down to different playoffs matchups. Derrick Rose is a 3rd string PG who can only play PG, whilst wings can play through SG-SF-PF and in Ish's case, C. And I don't think Rose is particularly a different player than Cam Payne.

Tough very tough. I'm just sort of disappointed Warren has been nailed to the bench.

edit: waive Bazley?


I wouldn't mind signing Rose, but only if we were dropping Shamet somehow, considering Shamet is our Emergency PG (In theory...I think we all know that Booker would be pushing it up, if both Payne and CP were down...). But if we add Rose, than we have a legitimate PG, then Shamet can can be dumped. Easy for me to say, as I will not be paying his $10M salary, plus whatever penalty, and Rose's contract too boot, haha...

I've got ZERO idea how all this can all be accomplished under the CBA, if it can at all, but if so, that's the easy anser to keep the best 15. If we have to lose Warren for Rose, then I'd rather keep TJ. But I too, am worried, and wondering why he isn't playing. I guess I figured we requested Warren come back in the trade, but maybe not??


I wanna keep Warren. If Rose becomes available then waive Jock. He's kinda useless and we should be playing Biz anyways.
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Post#2495 » by Saberestar » Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:12 am

bigfoot wrote:If Rose becomes available do you pick him up and waive TJ Warren?

Why Warren?

Bazley hasn't played a single minute for the Suns yet. I am pretty sure that he is our last man in the rotation and the one who would be waived IF needed.
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Post#2496 » by Jesus_H_Macy » Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:22 am

Sample size is small but still seems apparent to me at this point that the Saric trade was pure salary dump. Bazley would be the guy to get waived if we’re gonna do that. Though if Bazley is good on D and can guard larger wings and 4s I’d rather keep him. Landale just doesn’t really bring anything other than being a nominal big. Let’s hope Payne stays healthy, that would be huge for us to have him off the bench and as CP insurance
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Post#2497 » by Jesus_H_Macy » Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:31 am

We might be oddly enough too deep now for Warren to get consistent minutes. If Monty has any sense he’ll start Okogie and Craig will get all the backup 4 mins and possibly some mins at the 3 in certain lineups. Shamet should get zero minutes now that we have Ross, but Monty might still play him anyways. Regardless, Ross will get minutes, possibly some at the 3. So the spot for Warren would probably be at backup 3 competing with Lee and possibly Craig/Ross. I think there will definitely be times we could use his O but won’t be surprised if we rarely see him this season…
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Post#2499 » by bigfoot » Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:57 am

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Post#2500 » by RaisingArizona » Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:04 am

bigfoot wrote:If Rose becomes available do you pick him up and waive TJ Warren?

I waive shamet, bob
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