The Trade/Free Agency Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason 2

Mulhollanddrive · Post #261 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 10:57 am

These players who get traded to 2-3 teams end up just rotating with each other on bad teams. Trade him for Knight lol.

sportscrazy · Post #262 » by **sportscrazy** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:43 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
sportscrazy wrote:New York Knicks get:
P.J. Tucker
28th Overall Draft Pick
34th Overall Draft Pick

Phoenix Suns get:
Kyle O'Quinn
2017 Houston Rockets Second Round Draft Pick
2019 Houston Rockets Second Round Draft Pick
2019 Cleveland Cavaliers Second Round Draft Pick
Cash

3 future 2's? Worthless. Pass.

What about Kyle O'Quinn, Jose Calderon's expiring contract, 2017 Rockets Second Round Pick and cash for Tyson Chandler, 28 and 34?

Frank Lee · Post #263 » by **Frank Lee** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:57 pm

Kerrsed wrote:I get tired of seeing all this "He does not move the needle" bs. No, dont trade for him, he doesnt move the needle! No dont sign him, he doesnt move the needle. Screw that, you expect to sign a guy who does with a team like ours? Do we move THEIR needle to sign with US? Sure, trade for a guy, but if he doesnt want to be here, his play on the court will reflect that. This needle bs is a 2-way street, and as it is, we are not attracting FA's or trade-able guys anymore. The only way to do that is to either, Overpay and hope that they would rather take the most money rather than a few million less while also being on a winning team, or to start improving your team and getting some wins.
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Im just saying, if you can improve your team even a little, you do it. All those little bits add up and can help land/keep a better player that can move the proverbial needle leaps and bounds.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #264 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 2:48 pm

Hold on here. Not wanting lance and not wanting to improve the team are two different things. Lance is a turd and simply not the type of human being I would want near young players. Dudes been a headcase his whole life. Dude pushed his girlfriend down a flight of stairs for Christ sake.

Post #265 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 2:59 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Hold on here. Not wanting lance and not wanting to improve the team are two different things. Lance is a turd and simply not the type of human being I would want near young players. Dudes been a headcase his whole life. Dude pushed his girlfriend down a flight of stairs for Christ sake.

Plus Charlotte took a big step back the year they got him and then a big step forward the year after they got rid of him. Unless people think it was purely the Kaminsky addition.

Post #266 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:00 pm

Frank Lee wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:I get tired of seeing all this "He does not move the needle" bs. No, dont trade for him, he doesnt move the needle! No dont sign him, he doesnt move the needle. Screw that, you expect to sign a guy who does with a team like ours? Do we move THEIR needle to sign with US? Sure, trade for a guy, but if he doesnt want to be here, his play on the court will reflect that. This needle bs is a 2-way street, and as it is, we are not attracting FA's or trade-able guys anymore. The only way to do that is to either, Overpay and hope that they would rather take the most money rather than a few million less while also being on a winning team, or to start improving your team and getting some wins.
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Im just saying, if you can improve your team even a little, you do it. All those little bits add up and can help land/keep a better player that can move the proverbial needle leaps and bounds.

I do agree that the phrase "doesn't move the needle" has definitely run it's course. It was the May phrase of the month.

Post #267 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 3:07 pm

Kerrsed wrote:
AtheJ415 wrote:Disagree. The 76ers have drafted a bunch of guys who can't play together, who they will now have to dump for picks in the equivalent or later range of a weaker draft than the one in which they selected their 3rd and 4th PF/C who can't shoot.

Let me re-phrase that, they have had great drafts, as in they have drafted guys who have produced and have not turned into busts.

Because they have been injured, or played in other countries? The one guy they drafted who won rookie of the year was traded for a future pick. Of their 5 lottery picks of the last three years they have played a little over 4 combined years total.

MCW - 1.5 years
Noel - almost 2 years
Okafor - almost 1 year
Embiid - none
Saric - none

The two guys they still have can't play together so they may trade one for Jeff Teague.

Three pretty terrible years (2 being absolutely bottom of the barrel unwatchable terrible) has netted then what may end up being Okafor and Teague, or Dunn and Noel, who doctor's say won't make it through his second contract.

Jarlaxle0204 · Post #268 » by **Jarlaxle0204** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 4:20 pm

Kerrsed wrote:I get tired of seeing all this "He does not move the needle" bs. No, dont trade for him, he doesnt move the needle! No dont sign him, he doesnt move the needle. Screw that, you expect to sign a guy who does with a team like ours? Do we move THEIR needle to sign with US? Sure, trade for a guy, but if he doesnt want to be here, his play on the court will reflect that. This needle bs is a 2-way street, and as it is, we are not attracting FA's or trade-able guys anymore. The only way to do that is to either, Overpay and hope that they would rather take the most money rather than a few million less while also being on a winning team, or to start improving your team and getting some wins.

The 76ers have had some great drafts, and a few good pieces like us, but FA's still refuse to sign there. Why? Winning matters. In order to win games, you must improve the team. We see teams all the time that dont look to make small improvements here and there, they just swing for the fences and whiff big time (Like us with Lebron or Aldridge). Maybe if we had a few more guys who played better ball Aldridge would have chosen us. Stephenson was a Lebron stopper. King James knows what he could do and how annoying he could be on D, maybe if we had him and a few better guys instead of just his buddy Bledsoe, Lebron would have chose us. Who knows.

Im just saying, if you can improve your team even a little, you do it. All those little bits add up and can help land/keep a better player that can move the proverbial needle leaps and bounds.

I agree with what you are saying here and the principle of it but I don't think Lance is the right fit for us. We've had major chemistry issues the last couple of seasons. I don't think adding a volatile player to the locker room is the way to go right now for us especially with so many young players. I wouldn't mind adding someone like Marvin Williams or Batum though.

Post #269 » by **rsavaj** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 5:04 pm

If this Teague/Noel thing has legs I hope McD is on the phone with Colangelo. Knight+filler for Noel sounds like a fine plan.

TeamTragic · Post #270 » by **TeamTragic** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 5:17 pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/242112/76ers-Have-Shopped-Nerlens-Noel-Jahlil-Okafor-To-At-Least-15-Teams

15 teams?

Saberestar wrote:Are we discussing about signing Lance Stephenson?!?! REALLY?!?!

Not really. People are just **** bored :lol:

saintEscaton · Post #271 » by **saintEscaton** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 5:46 pm

Too bad Bryan Colangelo is undoing Hinkie's hard work in one fell swoop.Of course II'd rather be in Philly's shoes, GTFO with this nonsense they went BPA at every opportunity with no regrets

Waylay13 · Post #272 » by **Waylay13** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 10:55 pm

saintEscaton wrote:Too bad Bryan Colangelo is undoing Hinkie's hard work in one fell swoop.Of course II'd rather be in Philly's shoes, GTFO with this nonsense they went BPA at every opportunity with no regrets

Hinikie's hard work? I hope you are being ironic with this statement since Hinkie's hard work was to gut a team and put the worst grouping of player out on the floor possible. Doing this one year might be understandable but doing it year after year after year is a joke. The NBA should have stepped in and fired him years ago for the 76ers being an embarrassment to the NBA.

JMac1 · Post #273 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 10:59 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/738773700330262529[/tweet]

Post #274 » by **Cactus Jack** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 11:12 pm

JMac1 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/738773700330262529[/tweet]

Wait, Boston wouldn't trade 3? Or Philly?

JMac1 · Post #275 » by **JMac1** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 11:31 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
JMac1 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/738773700330262529[/tweet]

Wait, Boston wouldn't trade 3? Or Philly?

Boston wont.

Post #276 » by **Cactus Jack** » Fri Jun 3, 2016 11:48 pm

JMac1 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
JMac1 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/738773700330262529[/tweet]

Wait, Boston wouldn't trade 3? Or Philly?

Boston wont.

Not sure I buy that. Ok4 stock is low now. But, to say it would take a lot more to entice Boston, I think is over-exaggerating a little.

Post #277 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Jun 4, 2016 1:43 am

This is a pretty interesting article, but what is really interesting is the chart showing at what age point guards have their best season(s) and worst, and how they much they get better or decline each year. If anyone wants to post the chart in the thread, go for it..

http://www.phillymag.com/news/2016/06/03/dissecting-the-jeff-teague-for-nerlens-noel-rumor/

Post #278 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Jun 4, 2016 1:45 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Wait, Boston wouldn't trade 3? Or Philly?

Boston wont.

Not sure I buy that. Ok4 stock is low now. But, to say it would take a lot more to entice Boston, I think is over-exaggerating a little.

#1, Steve Kyler is the biggest idiot of all "sports" guys out there, and #2, who knows what they'd do? They could easily think it's a good deal but tell people it would take a lot more to get that pick.

carey · Post #279 » by **carey** » Sat Jun 4, 2016 2:06 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Not sure I buy that. Ok4 stock is low now. But, to say it would take a lot more to entice Boston, I think is over-exaggerating a little.

#1, Steve Kyler is the biggest idiot of all "sports" guys out there, and #2, who knows what they'd do? They could easily think it's a good deal but tell people it would take a lot more to get that pick.

Kyler is definitely an idiot I just take exception that he's the biggest. :lol:

I don't buy it either fwiw. It's a 2 player draft with very little separating all the players in tier 2 which takes up pick 3 through 8 (Bender, Hield, Dunn, Chriss, Brown, Murray.) Okafor is better than all those guys right now (as well he should be) and I'm pretty sure not one of them will put up the ppg next season that Okafor did this season. Anyhow, Boston will do what's best for them long term. They are likely trying to extort Philly right now and they should be. Just remember it's draft time. Don't believe half of what you read. It's almost all bull.

OGBAH · Post #280 » by **OGBAH** » Sat Jun 4, 2016 2:18 am

Does Amare have anything left in the tank? Maybe we could sign just to bang around Chriss or Bender in practice.
I always wanted to put Chandler and Amare together to bad it wasn't 10 years ago.