2017 Trade & Free Agency Ideas & Discussion

[BobbieL]

I don't mind the idea of adding Russell, but I wouldn't give up the #4 pick to get it done. I would approve of a 3-way that sent Bledsoe out (Orlando, NY, Dallas), their pick to LA, and Russell to us. It would depend who is still available, but I don't mind the fit. Russell's current defense is not ideal, but he has the ability to be a great passer and shooter from deep, with potential on the defensive end. If we got Jackson at 4 I would not be upset with a deal like this.

This probably makes the most sense when trading Bledsoe - getting back a player but not a draft pick.

The Suns have enough young players - I don't think they need another 10 for Bledsoe or 12 for warren - I think they need to start figuring out how to find a veteran so they push for the playoffs. Sarver said the goal was to compete in 2020 - I took that compete for a top 4 seed in the West and not compete for the 8th spot in the West

If you want to compete in the West - you need to start making the playoffs this coming year

Trading Bledsoe for a draft pick slow down the process -even Fultz or Ball. Now Russell, coming into his third year, might be pretty solid. And he is not needed with Ball

Actually think if you could do a three way, using Bledsoe to get a pick to get Russell, Suns have the nucleus to move forward.

[Ghost of Kleine]

I don't mind the idea of adding Russell, but I wouldn't give up the #4 pick to get it done. I would approve of a 3-way that sent Bledsoe out (Orlando, NY, Dallas), their pick to LA, and Russell to us. It would depend who is still available, but I don't mind the fit. Russell's current defense is not ideal, but he has the ability to be a great passer and shooter from deep, with potential on the defensive end. If we got Jackson at 4 I would not be upset with a deal like this.

This probably makes the most sense when trading Bledsoe - getting back a player but not a draft pick.

The Suns have enough young players - I don't think they need another 10 for Bledsoe or 12 for warren - I think they need to start figuring out how to find a veteran so they push for the playoffs. Sarver said the goal was to compete in 2020 - I took that compete for a top 4 seed in the West and not compete for the 8th spot in the West

If you want to compete in the West - you need to start making the playoffs this coming year

Trading Bledsoe for a draft pick slow down the process -even Fultz or Ball. Now Russell, coming into his third year, might be pretty solid. And he is not needed with Ball

Actually think if you could do a three way, using Bledsoe to get a pick to get Russell, Suns have the nucleus to move forward.

I hear what you are saying, But talk of trying to compete post Bledsoe trade? I'm just not sure how viable or realistic that option is, I mean who do we really think we can compete with in the next few years anyhow? Definitely not golden state. Or even Cleveland with Lebron and Irving still. So If we decide to go and start picking up vets just for the sake of making it into the playoffs only to be quickly eliminated by these superteams, Then aren't we really just spinning our wheels yet again and finding ourselves right back on that all too familiar " treadmill of mediocrity"? Don't get me wrong, I want to compete just as bad as anyone else, Just not at the expense of building a "true contender" as opposed to being a playoff punching bag for the current post season juggernauts.

[BobbieL]

I don't mind the idea of adding Russell, but I wouldn't give up the #4 pick to get it done. I would approve of a 3-way that sent Bledsoe out (Orlando, NY, Dallas), their pick to LA, and Russell to us. It would depend who is still available, but I don't mind the fit. Russell's current defense is not ideal, but he has the ability to be a great passer and shooter from deep, with potential on the defensive end. If we got Jackson at 4 I would not be upset with a deal like this.

This probably makes the most sense when trading Bledsoe - getting back a player but not a draft pick.

The Suns have enough young players - I don't think they need another 10 for Bledsoe or 12 for warren - I think they need to start figuring out how to find a veteran so they push for the playoffs. Sarver said the goal was to compete in 2020 - I took that compete for a top 4 seed in the West and not compete for the 8th spot in the West

If you want to compete in the West - you need to start making the playoffs this coming year

Trading Bledsoe for a draft pick slow down the process -even Fultz or Ball. Now Russell, coming into his third year, might be pretty solid. And he is not needed with Ball

Actually think if you could do a three way, using Bledsoe to get a pick to get Russell, Suns have the nucleus to move forward.

I hear what you are saying, But talk of trying to compete post Bledsoe trade? I'm just not sure how viable or realistic that option is, I mean who do we really think we can compete with in the next few years anyhow? Definitely not golden state. Or even Cleveland with Lebron and Irving still. So If we decide to go and start picking up vets just for the sake of making it into the playoffs only to be quickly eliminated by these superteams, Then aren't we really just spinning our wheels yet again and finding ourselves right back on that all too familiar " treadmill of mediocrity"? Don't get me wrong, I want to compete just as bad as anyone else, Just not at the expense of building a "true contender" as opposed to being a playoff punching bag for the current post season juggernauts.

You are right - it has to be the right veteran - not Iguodala. Iguodala makes sense for a team that is trying to win -- so possibly the Twolves - probably more than the Suns

By a veteran I mean Paul George or Jimmy Butler -- a veteran, really good player, in his prime

So its tricky you have a soon to be 27 year old Bledsoe with history of knees going into the 4th year of his deal with a much younger team around him. So yes, trading for Russell - I think makes more sense than trading for the 12th pick. As Russell with two years in the league would blend much better with Booker, Bender, Chriss and Warren along with the 4th pick than adding the 10th and 4th pick to that already young nucleus

Its a tricky spot for the Suns but this year needs to show growth.

I do wonder what bad contract the Suns will have to take for Brandon Knight - Luol Deng, Mozgov... ugg its going to not be pretty

[Waylay13]

If you want a good laugh check this mega trade idea on the 76ers reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/sixers/comments/6eqw0r/sixers_mega_trade/

Personally I think that Suns fans would burn down Talking Stick and every single bank Sarver owns if something like happened.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Truly absurd, And I have seen some horrible trades thrown together before. But this is almost comical yet insulting to all parties involved in one way or another!

[WeekapaugGroove]

Truly absurd, And I have seen some horrible trades thrown together before. But this is almost comical yet insulting to all parties involved in one way or another!

Yeah that dude needs to put down the blunt and step away from the trade machine for a while.

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[Walt_Uoob]

I tend to think Booker is overhyped and I'd be willing to entertain trades for him but I laughed out loud at that one too!

[Zelaznyrules]

Why everybody wants to trade Warren?

Personally I have one person that I am focused on the Suns getting and that is Josh Jackson. I would rather turn Warren into a super 6th man and have him doing the scoring off the bench. I think that is his natural role. With Len becoming a RFA and his lack of production i could see the Suns thinking about making a trade to pick up a player that could replace Len and that is Zack Collins but he isnt worth the 4th pick but he might be worth trading a player like Warren to get.

I see that suggested often and I just don't get it. In the NBA he seems destined to be a secondary scorer. Perhaps, one day, a great secondary scorer but I just don't see him as the guy who can consistently get it done as a 6th man. I could see him coming off the bench but I could never see him as the primary scorer that your 6th man typically is. But all that said, I think there's a very good chance that Jackson never becomes the equal of Warren today and TJ still has heights to reach IMO.

IMO you draft Jackson if you really feel he's the best player available but don't draft him to replace Warren as there is no need to do so.

[RaisingArizona]

Lol at trading Booker, Chriss and Bender. Not gonna happen

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Lol at trading Booker, Chriss and Bender. Not gonna happen

It seems like fans and media are, fairly consistently, simultaneously, trashing, and proposing to trade for, our young players. It's like they're all imagining Sarver up and firing McD and hiring Isiah Thomas as GM.

Our local media isn't much better about Dragan. Youngest player in the draft? Why not 20/10/5 first season?

[Waylay13]

I see that suggested often and I just don't get it. In the NBA he seems destined to be a secondary scorer. Perhaps, one day, a great secondary scorer but I just don't see him as the guy who can consistently get it done as a 6th man. I could see him coming off the bench but I could never see him as the primary scorer that your 6th man typically is. But all that said, I think there's a very good chance that Jackson never becomes the equal of Warren today and TJ still has heights to reach IMO.

IMO you draft Jackson if you really feel he's the best player available but don't draft him to replace Warren as there is no need to do so.

If you are only looking at scoring then maybe Jackson doesnt become the equal of Warren but when you add the defensive, ability to run the floor and passing Jackson will be better then Warren from the moment he is drafted. If his shot is fixable he will out shine Warren like the sun does the moon. Warren is a good mid range scorer, a good rebounder for his position and an OK defender. Jackson is a good scorer with the way that he runs the floor and hustles, a good rebounder, a very good defender, a very good passer for his position. Most of the experts say that if Jackson's shot can be fixed he is the second and maybe most talented play in the draft. TJ heights will always be able scoring JJ is about can he be the defensive transformer that helps turn this teams defense around.

[RaisingArizona]

Lol at trading Booker, Chriss and Bender. Not gonna happen

It seems like fans and media are, fairly consistently, simultaneously, trashing, and proposing to trade for, our young players. It's like they're all imagining Sarver up and firing McD and hiring Isiah Thomas as GM.

Our local media isn't much better about Dragan. Youngest player in the draft? Why not 20/10/5 first season?

I have realized that. A ton of casual NBA writers out there who only cover the big markets who don't know what they're talking about. It makes it hard to take them seriously about anything. Perception matters too; the Suns have been bad for awhile so these writers assume our guys are all trash and our FO will continue to make bad decisions.

[JJ13]

#4+TJ+Len (sign/trade) for Klay Thompson

Bled/
Booker
Klay
Chriss
Chandler/FA

[Saberestar]

#4+TJ+Len (sign/trade) for Klay Thompson

Bled/
Booker
Klay
Chriss
Chandler/FA

Klay Thompson traded? No way.

[RaisingArizona]

#4+TJ+Len (sign/trade) for Klay Thompson

Bled/
Booker
Klay
Chriss
Chandler/FA

Klay Thompson traded? No way.

Haha why would GSW break up the most stacked team of all time?

[JJ13]

#4+TJ+Len (sign/trade) for Klay Thompson

Bled/
Booker
Klay
Chriss
Chandler/FA

Klay Thompson traded? No way.

Haha why would GSW break up the most stacked team of all time?

I can't be the only one reading the tea leaves here, can I? Lots of people talking about Klay being traded. Didn't RealGM even post an article about GS paying close to $300MM in a couple years?

[RaisingArizona]

Klay Thompson traded? No way.

Haha why would GSW break up the most stacked team of all time?

I can't be the only one reading the tea leaves here, can I? Lots of people talking about Klay being traded. Didn't RealGM even post an article about GS paying close to $300MM in a couple years?

I hear you. I guess I'm just skeptical of it actually happening. Would be great to have him and Booker!

[MrMiyagi]

Lol at trading Booker, Chriss and Bender. Not gonna happen

It seems like fans and media are, fairly consistently, simultaneously, trashing, and proposing to trade for, our young players. It's like they're all imagining Sarver up and firing McD and hiring Isiah Thomas as GM.

Our local media isn't much better about Dragan. Youngest player in the draft? Why not 20/10/5 first season?

I have realized that. A ton of casual NBA writers out there who only cover the big markets who don't know what they're talking about. It makes it hard to take them seriously about anything. Perception matters too; the Suns have been bad for awhile so these writers assume our guys are all trash and our FO will continue to make bad decisions.

And next season when we're hovering around .500, people will come out of the woodwork saying "We knew these guys were great, young players!!! It was only a matter of time!!!!"

[thamadkant]

Bledsoe and Pick 4 for Wiggins and a big contract?

[carey]

Bledsoe and Pick 4 for Wiggins and a big contract?

No thank you.