Trade & FA Ideas & Discussion

[jcsunsfan]

Would you guys use next year's Miami pick to trade Knight to a team like Brooklyn? I can see Miami being a top 4 seed in the East and the pick being around 20-23 next year.

No. There's simply no reason. We're under zero financial pressure ATM. The price is the pick, but what are we buying exactly? An increased ability to absorb other bad contracts in exchange for... a different pick?

Exactly this. We might as well play him. I would start the year with a four guard rotation of Bledsoe, Booker, Ulis, and Knight. If we have an injury or are later able to trade Knight, then Reed can slide in to the empty spot.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I was listening to an interview with Nash and it does sound like he eventually wants into coaching or a front office but he was saying it would be a couple years from now when his kids are older.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

Interesting that Sarver straight up said you need 3 or 4 stars to compete and he's willing to lose to get them. Respect the honesty.


And that's the sounds of Frank Lee and Bigfoot punching their computers

[BobbieL]

Would you guys use next year's Miami pick to trade Knight to a team like Brooklyn? I can see Miami being a top 4 seed in the East and the pick being around 20-23 next year.

No. There's simply no reason. We're under zero financial pressure ATM. The price is the pick, but what are we buying exactly? An increased ability to absorb other bad contracts in exchange for... a different pick?

Exactly this. We might as well play him. I would start the year with a four guard rotation of Bledsoe, Booker, Ulis, and Knight. If we have an injury or are later able to trade Knight, then Reed can slide in to the empty spot.

I would not be opposed if there were protections on the pick to say top 18 or top 20 for instance. It might be something consider. Yes, it could mean opening up cap space to take on a bad contract. But that would also be cap flexibility that you know about.

The good thing as has been said - the Suns do not have to do it so they don't have to give up multiple picks to keep him. At worst, he helps meet the cap floor. But yes, if by chance you were to move say Knight and the Heat first pick to the Knicks or Nets - and in two months, Team X gives a first rounder to take on a contract, as long as the contract expires in 2019 -- you have in some ways, come out ahead because Knights expires in 2020 therefore giving you more cap space earlier.

[ATTL]

Interesting that Sarver straight up said you need 3 or 4 stars to compete and he's willing to lose to get them. Respect the honesty.


And that's the sounds of Frank Lee and Bigfoot punching their computers

2018 tank confirmed, sarver is tank commander.

[BobbieL]

How the hell is Houston going to get Melo if they need to send out Anderson, but the cost to do so is two 1st round picks, while also needing at least another 1st round pick AND some kind of young assets to send to NY?

Here is my take on the Melo to Rockets or Cavs

1) Rockets or Cavs have ZERO, zero assets that anybody really wants in term of young talent or expirings. Sure, the Rockets could send Ariza but he is supposedly best buds with Paul so they probably don't do that. Paul gave up like 3m in a trade kicker to go to Houston and he is not signed after this year. Plus each team has some bad contracts they want moved, Shumpert and even worse, Ryan Anderson.

Hence, they need teams

2) The Knicks - they are right to want value for Carmelo but the teams they are dealing with, kind of have nothing hence the 3 or 4 team deals. Even that, its like the Suns want them to take Knight, so they might have to be less picky if they want to get some value for Knight

I just don't see Anderson as a movable contract. I mean, if they gave Capela and somehow took Knight, and the Suns were able to move Chandler, maybe. Big Maybe though. Contract is terrible, Kevin Love at 66m at least gives you something.

I liked my Bucks, Cavs, Knicks, Suns trade -- but it also means the Knicks would have to be okay with expiring deals and a guy like Knight and maybe the Heat pick. But again, does Kevin Love make sense for Suns. I know Anderson doesn't

[BobbieL]

Interesting that Sarver straight up said you need 3 or 4 stars to compete and he's willing to lose to get them. Respect the honesty.


And that's the sounds of Frank Lee and Bigfoot punching their computers

2018 tank confirmed, sarver is tank commander.

I think the Suns can get a pretty good pick and not even "tank" - its just as important to get the young players improved as another draft slot. Though it seems like a decent draft in 2018 so another top 6 pick will be valued

[bwgood77]

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If Anderson is going to command 2 firsts to offload his contract, then I imagine Knight isn't far behind. At best, 1 first and a 2nd (like Carroll)

Part of the reason it would cost them two firsts is likely because they'd be low firsts. However, I imagine they would also be well into the future because they already traded one to the Clippers for Paul.

[NTB]

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So Dwyane Wade likes at least 2 of our young core. (Booker & Jackson)

[bwgood77]

How the hell is Houston going to get Melo if they need to send out Anderson, but the cost to do so is two 1st round picks, while also needing at least another 1st round pick AND some kind of young assets to send to NY?

Here is my take on the Melo to Rockets or Cavs

1) Rockets or Cavs have ZERO, zero assets that anybody really wants in term of young talent or expirings. Sure, the Rockets could send Ariza but he is supposedly best buds with Paul so they probably don't do that. Paul gave up like 3m in a trade kicker to go to Houston and he is not signed after this year. Plus each team has some bad contracts they want moved, Shumpert and even worse, Ryan Anderson.

Hence, they need teams

2) The Knicks - they are right to want value for Carmelo but the teams they are dealing with, kind of have nothing hence the 3 or 4 team deals. Even that, its like the Suns want them to take Knight, so they might have to be less picky if they want to get some value for Knight

I just don't see Anderson as a movable contract. I mean, if they gave Capela and somehow took Knight, and the Suns were able to move Chandler, maybe. Big Maybe though. Contract is terrible, Kevin Love at 66m at least gives you something.

I liked my Bucks, Cavs, Knicks, Suns trade -- but it also means the Knicks would have to be okay with expiring deals and a guy like Knight and maybe the Heat pick. But again, does Kevin Love make sense for Suns. I know Anderson doesn't

I really don't think Melo makes them that much better anyway. In D'Antoni's offense, particularly with two ball handlers already, Melo really needs to be more of a catch and shoot guy, and they like 3s. Anderson is better at that anyway. 40% to under 36%. I know Anderson sucks at defense, but Melo isn't all that great himself.

[BobbieL]

How the hell is Houston going to get Melo if they need to send out Anderson, but the cost to do so is two 1st round picks, while also needing at least another 1st round pick AND some kind of young assets to send to NY?

Here is my take on the Melo to Rockets or Cavs

1) Rockets or Cavs have ZERO, zero assets that anybody really wants in term of young talent or expirings. Sure, the Rockets could send Ariza but he is supposedly best buds with Paul so they probably don't do that. Paul gave up like 3m in a trade kicker to go to Houston and he is not signed after this year. Plus each team has some bad contracts they want moved, Shumpert and even worse, Ryan Anderson.

Hence, they need teams

2) The Knicks - they are right to want value for Carmelo but the teams they are dealing with, kind of have nothing hence the 3 or 4 team deals. Even that, its like the Suns want them to take Knight, so they might have to be less picky if they want to get some value for Knight

I just don't see Anderson as a movable contract. I mean, if they gave Capela and somehow took Knight, and the Suns were able to move Chandler, maybe. Big Maybe though. Contract is terrible, Kevin Love at 66m at least gives you something.

I liked my Bucks, Cavs, Knicks, Suns trade -- but it also means the Knicks would have to be okay with expiring deals and a guy like Knight and maybe the Heat pick. But again, does Kevin Love make sense for Suns. I know Anderson doesn't

I really don't think Melo makes them that much better anyway. In D'Antoni's offense, particularly with two ball handlers already, Melo really needs to be more of a catch and shoot guy, and they like 3s. Anderson is better at that anyway. 40% to under 36%. I know Anderson sucks at defense, but Melo isn't all that great himself.

I don't disagree with you. I think in that offense Ryan Anderson would have so much room to shoot, his 3 point percentage would probably increase. Maybe not a lot but he will have room to shoot.

Still do not want his contract but I am not sure Melo helps that team that much.

Interesting to see how that one unfolds and finishes

[Damkac]

McD extension is a great news.

[Saberestar]

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Two years extension.

[SideSwipe]

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Two years extension.

2 years is a smart compromise. It seems like McD has a plan brewing with some of whats going on. I suspect it will be a full court press for Lebron between now and next summer. The question is who else will come?

[Mulhollanddrive]

Great news, hopefully this gives McDonough licence to get a star player and not more Dudley, Chandler, Knight types to save his job.

[darealjuice]

That roughly matches the timeline that Sarver set at the season ticket meeting. If we're not looking like we're going to be contenders by 2020 when most of our core is approaching their prime then I expect the house to get cleaned out.

[BobbieL]

That roughly matches the timeline that Sarver set at the season ticket meeting. If we're not looking like we're going to be contenders by 2020 when most of our core is approaching their prime then I expect the house to get cleaned out.

probably can be blown out in the spring of 2019 if he sees the lack of improvement than its only one year left on deal

just do not fire the guy befor draft or free agency

[Mulhollanddrive]

Youngest team and management in the NBA that backs up Sarver's vision to develop a championship team organically:

8 rotation players with 3 years experience or less
3 head coach & executives in their 30s

[thamadkant]

Ayton 2018!
Then a Free Agent Point Guard who rather pass than score.

[AtheJ415]

So is James Jones gonna help u go after Lebron next year? lol

No, but at the very least he's going to make sure that we don't do players dirty like we did with Dragic and IT.

We did neither of them dirty. We gave IT the highest contract he was offered on the market and then traded him to the place he became a star despite having him for a few more years at a small contract.

We gave Dragic the platform to become an all-NBA player, which has led to his next huge, overpaid contract, that he hasn't lived up to. If signing a league-wide consensus backup point guard (and that's what IT was when he was here) is somehow doing him dirty, then he was never that good to begin with.