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2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 4 - Trade season continues - No player trade restrictions

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Initial thoughts on KD for Bridges, Cam, Crowder, plus picks?

Love it!
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Indifferent
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Hate it
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Wait and see...
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31%
 
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Post#261 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:01 pm

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Well I would hope not on the Serge thing. He's cooked and dead money at this point. Both biz and jock are better options.

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Ibaka only makes sense if adding 2.9m to the deal to make the math work. Otherwise - correct.

As for Ayton - will be good to have him back for the Mavs game

I wouldn't want another big because Biz earned his minutes and I like Joc but if we were to bring in a big it would be Holmes if he got bought out. Ibaka doesn't play defense anymore since he started to focus on his offense

The difference though between the two is that Bizzy although very solid defensively, can't really hit the three and doesn't have a midrange game either.
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Post#262 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:05 pm

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Well I would hope not on the Serge thing. He's cooked and dead money at this point. Both biz and jock are better options.

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He's cooked . Was that intentional?
Yup :) he's fully cooked/done as an NBA player. Not sure why the bucks even gave him that one year deal since he didn't do **** after they traded for him last deadline.

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Post#263 » by Crives » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:06 pm

Gambo. Looks like no plan to add a guard

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Post#264 » by BobbieL » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:07 pm

Gambo has spoken on Rozier, FVV and Quickley. So I guess Marc Stein is wrong :D

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Post#265 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:08 pm

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Post#266 » by BobbieL » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:14 pm

Crives wrote:Gambo. Looks like no plan to add a guard

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Gambo pushing the trade value of Quickley for the New York Knickerbockers.
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Post#267 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:26 pm

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Depending upon the cost, Bamba wouldn't be a terrible insurance policy (just in case) we're intending to move on from Ayton this summer! :-?
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Post#268 » by spanishninja » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:27 pm

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Depending upon the cost, Bamba wouldn't be a terrible insurance policy (just in case) we're intending to move on from Ayton this summer! :-?


and he can actually shoot the 3 too.
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Post#269 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:28 pm

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:lol: Not too likely.
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Post#270 » by Puff » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:33 pm

One of my problems with Ayton is his performance in the 2nd half of games. I looked up the minutes he plays per night and they are in line with what Embiid and Jokic plays so that should not be the issue. I know some will blame it on coaching. Ayton seems to be a nonfactor far too many times in the 2nd half of games. That is when the stars need to shine. Without Booker, we need him even more. Of course, we won the last two games without him.

Is there a place to find players performance numbers by quarters or the 1st half versus the 2nd half. Just curious. I could be all wet on this belief.
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Post#271 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:40 pm

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Speaking of Ibaka....lol.
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Post#272 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:43 pm

If the suns need to save money (WHICH THEY DON'T with Ishbia)!!! Could this be our rebounding boost solution??? :lol:
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Post#273 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:48 pm

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Looking better! Hopefully it won't need to be too much longer!
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Post#274 » by Ghost of Kleine » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:49 pm

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So most likely Rozier and possibly Oubre incoming if I had to guess?? Just have to figure out a workable framework for it. :nod:
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Post#276 » by Saberestar » Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:56 pm

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So most likely Rozier and possibly Oubre incoming if I had to guess?? Just have to figure out a workable framework for it. :nod:

Gambo already shot down the idea of the Suns trading at the deadline for an small PG.
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Post#277 » by NapoleonII » Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:08 pm

Mo Bamba??

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Post#278 » by BobbieL » Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:10 pm

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Crives wrote:Gambo. Looks like no plan to add a guard

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So most likely Rozier and possibly Oubre incoming if I had to guess?? Just have to figure out a workable framework for it. :nod:

Gambo already shot down the idea of the Suns trading at the deadline for an small PG.


He is going to be wrong about one of his reports and will have to backtrack on it.

We know the source was not James Jones - that guy is tight lipped.
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Post#279 » by bwoolf2 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:16 pm

Crives wrote:Gambo. Looks like no plan to add a guard

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He is right though why would we want undersized guards, paul already struggles there.
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Post#280 » by Bogyo » Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:21 pm

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Must have been the Thunder. Question is - what exactley were those picks.
(Also, this is where Presti made a bit of a misscalculation with amassing all the picks in the world. Everybody will ask for twice as much of picks from him than any other trade partner. I guess he slept through economy 101 when they talked about diminising returns and such. With that said, he is still leaps and bounds better than our "gm".)

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If they wanted to go forward with this team, they would trade OG for player(s) not picks, that just doesn't make sense due to the age gap of the 2 important clusters of their player personnel (FVV/GTJ/Siakam/Porter vs OG/Barnes/Koloko/Achiuwa).
This also shows that the Dinos will be down for a Siakam trade in the summer. They will trade FVV for whoever they can, and GTJ too if there is a buyer, or at least one of them. Understandable, both have been subpar, have too large contracts, and FVV wants to make it worse. You aint winning chit with them. The return will be low as well. Then what do you have? Siakam and the 2 young wings, plus a couple nice complementary pieces (Koloko, Achiuwa, Thad Young, Porter), and a good draft pick. Let the bidding begin for the in his prime all nba guy.

Also: FVV will be either let go, or sign and traded. Possibly for a lot lower number than what he wants now, when there will be no suitors (unless one dumb gm throws the bag at him).
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