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Suns Offseason Thread 2: The Hunt for a Blazer Continues!

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Post#281 » by SideSwipe » Thu Jul 2, 2015 3:50 pm

ray ray wrote:From what I've heard, the Suns have a real shot at getting LMA..

the biggest draw from the Suns in LMA mind is..

1) doesn't have to play center with us (Chandler & Len). Meanwhile in SA he's going to to play a lot of C.
2) the Suns have a younger rosters than San Antonio.
3) makes history instead of being a part of history..
4) LMA will still get his numbers with us.

It's a lot closer than Everyone thinks.. The only concern with the Suns about LMA choosing SA, it's his child living in tx.

The plot thickens..


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Post#282 » by Barkley6 » Thu Jul 2, 2015 3:50 pm

rsavaj wrote:Just looking at the cap sheet again, clearing 15-17 mill(without trading Bledsoe) becomes difficult, but not impossible, if you don't move Markieff

Tucker: 5.5
Marcus: 5
Granger: 2.17
Goodwin: 1.16
Bullock: 1.17

puts you at 15. Releasing McNeal puts you at 16. Trading Leuer gives you 17.

SAC just got pilfered by PHI in exchange for a salary dump; if we go that route, Hinikie is gonna demand Warren, Goodwin, future picks, etc. Haywood's contract in CLE is a possibility, but they're going to be cautious about who they use it on.

Still...ASSUMING you can move those 5-7 guys, then you have a very interesting group:

Knight/?
Bledsoe/Booker?
Warren?/?
LMA/Markieff/Leuer(maybe?)
Len/Len

But then you have potentially 8 guys on the roster, and you need to add 5 more using the Dragic trade exception(which goes away if we don't operate as an above the cap team, AKA if we don't do a s/t with Dallas and another with Portland) plus the MLE(which also goes away if we're not an "over the cap" team. You can get two nice rotation guys for those exceptions.

Then you just need 3 end of the bench dudes for the vet min. Maybe bring Alec Brown up as a body to fill a roster spot, sign Ish Smith, get Amare...+your two exception guys, and you're okay.

So sign and trades, not salary dumps, are the way to go.

Gosh, too many moving parts.


I think the Suns will be dealing Markieff. I understand why it makes basketball sense to keep him, but I'm pretty sure that the Twins are a package deal. He'd be a great bench PF, but with LMA's stated desire to play mostly (if not all) at the 4, and he's averaged 35mpg for his career, that leaves maybe 20mpg for Markieff, which I doubt he'd be happy with.
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Post#283 » by AtheJ415 » Thu Jul 2, 2015 4:02 pm

batsmasher wrote:Dan Leroux made a really great point on the most recent Dunc'd On podcast. Sure McD has made a few mistakes but what is really good is he isn't afraid at all to rectify them, immediately.

That's what's going to pull this team out of mediocrity, that quick decision making and no keeping players just because you don't want to admit you were wrong.

He got rid of Beas quick. He moved on from IT and Dragic quick. Decisiveness is crucial in making positive inroads, and McD has an abundance of it.


Beas wasn't Mcdonough's mistake. Just saying.
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Post#284 » by Revived » Thu Jul 2, 2015 4:03 pm

Can't Duncan play C?
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Post#285 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jul 2, 2015 4:07 pm

SF88 wrote:Can't Duncan play C?


Yes, and he does most of the time in their optimal lineups, but I don't know how much longer he is going to be able to play period.
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Post#286 » by jcsunsfan » Thu Jul 2, 2015 4:08 pm

If not wanting to play C was a big issue, the Spurs made a big mistake in trading Splitter. They should have moved someone else. This is where having Earl Watson was probably an advantage. He knows what LMA wants. Sounds like SA didnt exactly have that part figured out.
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Post#287 » by Barkley6 » Thu Jul 2, 2015 4:10 pm

SF88 wrote:Can't Duncan play C?


He can, but he's best as a PF. And if you're looking long term, Duncan is only there one more season, which is going to be a playoff season, so what's the Spurs plan for acquiring a defensive center? (Not sure what their cap looks like next offseason)
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Post#288 » by jcsunsfan » Thu Jul 2, 2015 4:12 pm

A sign and trade would be good for Portland. They could get, say, the Morri plus a pick, plus a 7 mill trade exception. Right now, Keef's contract expecially looks like a real bargain. Monroe just got the max, for goodness sake.
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Post#289 » by JTrain » Thu Jul 2, 2015 4:12 pm

Anyone have the specific timeline of these meetings? Here's what I got:

Wednesday:

1. LAL
2. HOU?
3. SAS
4. PHX
5. DAL?

Thursday:

6. TOR
7. NYK
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Post#290 » by Saberestar » Thu Jul 2, 2015 4:15 pm

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Post#291 » by Revived » Thu Jul 2, 2015 4:16 pm

Sounds about right JT.
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Post#292 » by sunsfever68 » Thu Jul 2, 2015 4:20 pm

don't know how legit it is

but the blazers assistant coach said publicly they didn't state it but privately they say they lost Aldridge so that cuts down on potential suitor for him.

won't go to LA won't go back to Portland.

Realistically, it's SA us or Houston or Dallas.

I don't see any reason he'd go to toronto or new york, new york is an absolute mess.


I really feel he's going to choose us if we can clear the space to land him. This is really contingent on Portland wanting to do a sign and trade with us.
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Post#293 » by RunDogGun » Thu Jul 2, 2015 4:23 pm

AtheJ415 wrote:
batsmasher wrote:Dan Leroux made a really great point on the most recent Dunc'd On podcast. Sure McD has made a few mistakes but what is really good is he isn't afraid at all to rectify them, immediately.

That's what's going to pull this team out of mediocrity, that quick decision making and no keeping players just because you don't want to admit you were wrong.

He got rid of Beas quick. He moved on from IT and Dragic quick. Decisiveness is crucial in making positive inroads, and McD has an abundance of it.


Beas wasn't Mcdonough's mistake. Just saying.

Toliver was moved pretty quickly when that didn't work out. I'm not sure if that was really a mistake, just not a right fit.
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Post#294 » by Qwigglez » Thu Jul 2, 2015 4:29 pm

sunsfever68 wrote:don't know how legit it is

but the blazers assistant coach said publicly they didn't state it but privately they say they lost Aldridge so that cuts down on potential suitor for him.

won't go to LA won't go back to Portland.

Realistically, it's SA us or Houston or Dallas.

I don't see any reason he'd go to toronto or new york, new york is an absolute mess.


I really feel he's going to choose us if we can clear the space to land him. This is really contingent on Portland wanting to do a sign and trade with us.


Great optimism. I hope you're right.
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Post#295 » by GDFTony » Thu Jul 2, 2015 4:31 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/616643841001693184[/tweet]
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Post#296 » by JMac1 » Thu Jul 2, 2015 4:34 pm

GDFTony wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/616643841001693184[/tweet]


If we get LMA we get Amare. Then, we can definitely trade Morri without hurting or bench.
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Post#297 » by GDFTony » Thu Jul 2, 2015 4:36 pm

JMac1 wrote:
GDFTony wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/616643841001693184[/tweet]


If we get LMA we get Amare. Then, we can definitely trade Morri without hurting or bench.


Another title run with the Prodigal Sun. Just pick up Marion and Nash on some vet min contracts, they don't need to play just need them to keep the young guns in check.

We can still make the dream happen :)
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Post#298 » by schnakenpopanz » Thu Jul 2, 2015 4:37 pm

JMac1 wrote:
GDFTony wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/616643841001693184[/tweet]


If we get LMA we get Amare. Then, we can definitely trade Morri without hurting or bench.

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Post#299 » by Barkley6 » Thu Jul 2, 2015 4:41 pm

JMac1 wrote:
GDFTony wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/616643841001693184[/tweet]


If we get LMA we get Amare. Then, we can definitely trade Morri without hurting or bench.


Yeah, I kind of agree. If LMA signs, Amare to Phoenix has real possibilities. We'd definitely be shipping out the twins, but our roster would look something like:

Bledsoe/Ish?
Knight/Booker
Tucker/Granger/Warren
LMA/Amare
Chandler/Len

Not too bad at all.
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Post#300 » by Revived » Thu Jul 2, 2015 4:42 pm

Can the Knicks get their meeting with LMA done with already?

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