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2018 Free Agency and Trade Discussion continued

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Post#281 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:49 am

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He is not the PG I think I would want. Still holding out for Rubio next year. Smart is tough, plays good defense, but his lack of shooting as said, with JJ already would be problematic
Secondarily, it would have to be a sign and trade - something like a three team deal

Boston: Asik and a pick from the Bulls
Bulls: TJ Warren
Suns: Marcus Smart

I don't see this as an option. I have read that the Pelicans are interested in Rodney Hood. Wonder who they think they can sluff off on Cleveland - Solomon Hill? Mirotic has one year left and he seems a great fit with Randle and AD.


Yes this would be a horrible trade ... giving up TJ Warren who has a decent true shooting percentage for a Smart with a career .480 true shooting percentage. Someone please start posting barf pics anytime Marcus Smart is brought up in a Suns trade.

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I was just thinking Boston doesn’t need Warren and won’t take Dudley Daniels and pick so may need another team.


I don’t think I want Smart. Hold off a year - maybe band-aid it withthe guys you have. Teodosic maybe


I could see the value in adding a fourth PG if there's an injury, but as of right now, I'm happy with Knight-Shaq-Okobo. Shaq has continued to affirm his value with SL play. Okobo has shown that he can handle the position from a physical standpoint and has shown flashes as well.

If we suffer an injury, I suspect Canaan is the first guy we'd call.

If we're looking to open up a roster spot, I suspect it's for a backup center like Alan Williams or Jack Cooley - either of whom would be much more effective than Tyson.

... I'm also not in favor of trading TJ when none of our other options for starting forwards are nearly so proven (Chriss, Bender, JJ, Bridges). We need to make those guys earn their minutes.
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Post#282 » by AtheJ415 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:58 am

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hmm...Phx sign n trade. I don't care u guys hate him he can't shoot, but we don't need shooters. Need toughness and smarts.....SMART

hopefully it's a sign n trade to ship out some clutter here and maybe they want a diamond in the rough like a Bender n expirings. And in turn Smart 2 Phx!


Our statistics for about 4 years now relative to the rest of the league, plus the general direction of the entire league and the foundation of this new era of hoops, all point to that being unequivocally false.
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Post#283 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:00 am

I wouldn't move TJ for Smart. I'd only want Smart if we can get him for the MLE, the tax-payer one
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Post#284 » by BobbieL » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:03 am

lilfishi22 wrote:I wouldn't move TJ for Smart. I'd only want Smart if we can get him for the MLE, the tax-payer one


I am not trading TJ Warren for Smart either. I was just trying to present an S&T that was plausible and not Smart for Dudley Daniels and pick. And since Warren to Boston makes zero sense, tried to think of a third team
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Post#285 » by kennydorglas » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:14 am

Shaq is better than Smart.
Move on.
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Post#286 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:41 am

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lilfishi22 wrote:I wouldn't move TJ for Smart. I'd only want Smart if we can get him for the MLE, the tax-payer one


I am not trading TJ Warren for Smart either. I was just trying to present an S&T that was plausible and not Smart for Dudley Daniels and pick. And since Warren to Boston makes zero sense, tried to think of a third team

Incoming and outgoing is still TJ for Smart so it still doesn't make sense for us
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Post#287 » by BobbieL » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:54 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
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lilfishi22 wrote:I wouldn't move TJ for Smart. I'd only want Smart if we can get him for the MLE, the tax-payer one


I am not trading TJ Warren for Smart either. I was just trying to present an S&T that was plausible and not Smart for Dudley Daniels and pick. And since Warren to Boston makes zero sense, tried to think of a third team

Incoming and outgoing is still TJ for Smart so it still doesn't make sense for us


Agree. But can TJ being traded find a players that works better for the team? I know I mention the GSW rebuild - but the Ellis for Bogut took a player of excess of you will for a player of need. TJ might do that for the Suns. Or they just roll this year,build his value for next summer too
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Post#288 » by MrMiyagi » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:30 am

kennydorglas wrote:Shaq is better than Smart.
Move on.

And he doesn't fall over hoping for a call.
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Suns traded Mikal Bridges, Cam Johnson, Jae Crowder and 4 1st round picks and a swap so some Vegas Bookies would like us.
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Post#289 » by AtheJ415 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:14 am

Even wanting Smart taking up minutes is pretty stupid to be honest.
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Post#290 » by Qwigglez » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:11 am

Do people really want Smart? Not at all a Smart move. It would basically welcome the double and triple teams to Ayton/Booker, meanwhile the open guy would be Jackson or Smart who'd launch a three and build a brick house. Yup, easy pass.
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Post#291 » by JohnWall2 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:16 am

Can't believe everyone here is climbing over each other to sign Smart. Some even want to trade decent assets for him? Why do we want a guy who thinks he is a shooter/max player who can't shoot? Last kind of of guy we need at this point. I cant believe I've just read 10 odd pages of Smart trade ideas lol.
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Post#292 » by sunsbum » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:26 am

So we are ready to trade JJ now and keep T.J. after 3 summer league games?
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Post#293 » by Qwigglez » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:32 am

Don't think anyone is saying to trade JJ. Just saying he can't shoot, nothing new here. It's not so bad to have one non-shooter if the other four guys on the court can spread the floor.

I'm surprised Smart hasn't taken his talents to Hollywood, Lebron, Lance, and Smart have got to best top 7 floppers currently in the NBA.



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Post#294 » by starbosa10 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:44 am

Hell no to Smart, thought we dodged that bullet when we signed Ariza. Why give up assests and a 15m multiyear deal to a PG who cant shoot. Better off seeing what we have in Shaq.
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Post#295 » by DaleyBlind » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:58 am

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DaleyBlind wrote:Josh Jackson playing himself to the NAZ Suns, yeesh he looks terrible.
Also Reed must be kept over Troy Daniels.



Nonsense


Thought it was obvious that statement was hyperbole, but their is truth in it - he looks really bad. He is a terrible offensive player.
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Post#296 » by m1chal » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:04 am

Lol, he's good indeed, it's not even funny. I'd hate to have such player on the team, it would be embarrassing to me as a fan.
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Post#297 » by SlovenianDragon » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:19 am

m1chal wrote:Lol, he's good indeed, it's not even funny. I'd hate to have such player on the team, it would be embarrassing to me as a fan.



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Post#298 » by SlovenianDragon » Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:21 am

Also why are we talking about Smart again? The guy is garbage.
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Post#299 » by m1chal » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:50 am

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m1chal wrote:Lol, he's good indeed, it's not even funny. I'd hate to have such player on the team, it would be embarrassing to me as a fan.



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Translation: Lol, he's (Marcus Smart) good indeed (at flopping), it's not even funny.

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Post#300 » by bigfoot » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:04 pm

sunsbum wrote:So we are ready to trade JJ now and keep T.J. after 3 summer league games?


No of course not! But I am not coronating JJ with a starting or backup role for the Suns like so many others do. Or alternatively trading away TJ for trash to make room for JJ.

Jackson needs to earn it by playing the right way. That means he has to cut out the stupid drives into heavy traffic that result in either a turnover or throwing up a crappy shot with no chance to go in. He better starting focusing on the defensive side of the ball which is supposedly his calling card. If he can't figure it out then he can play as a third stringer behind Booker, TJ, Ariza, Reed, and Bridges.

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