2014 Official FA Thread 3: The Hunt For LeBron Continues...

[bwgood77]

How does that bode well for him? So we can go through this whole charade again in 2 years?

I don't think it will be 2 years I think it will be next summer. If he goes back to Miami I think it will be on a 2 yr deal with an opt out after next yr. Contract length is his best leverage and it allows him to flee whenever he sees fit. I expect him to do this the next 3-4 summers.

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If I was still a betting man, I'd bet he'd be in NY next summer regardless of where he signs. Hopefully I am wrong and he signs with us and says, "this is cool being in a place that has never won one and I can REALLY be the first to bring them not one, not two, not three...."

[gaspar]

The Suns could also go over the cap with either the mini-mid level or full mid-level exception to bring in additional players. I am not sure which mid-level exception they would have this year. Regardless, they can get veterans to back up the forward spots and/or another veteran center with that money.

Could be wrong but the CBA only allows the MLE if you're over the cap to begin with. Signing 2 stars then going over to sign Bledsoe I think leaves us the MLE. Next summer we would have it.

Yup, this year we can use the cap space to sign LeBron+someone, re-sign Tucker and Bledsoe going over the cap and then use the room exception $2.7M + sign guys on vet minimum contracts.

[DRK]

Reading all these teaser tweets has given me the biggest basketball related erection. The simple thought that the Suns are among the few teams Lebron may actually be considering and that we have the capability of literally telling him he can bring one of his buddies along with him while keeping Dragic/Bledsoe is outstanding.


Please for the love of god and everything basketball related gives the Suns a little good fortunate for once.

HEY, no more talking about your erections here. It's prohibited!

metaphorical of course

Is your penis metaphorical too?

[PassWarden]

How does that bode well for him? So we can go through this whole charade again in 2 years?

I don't think it will be 2 years I think it will be next summer. If he goes back to Miami I think it will be on a 2 yr deal with an opt out after next yr. Contract length is his best leverage and it allows him to flee whenever he sees fit. I expect him to do this the next 3-4 summers.

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If that's the case then he honestly doesn't care about his legacy. Opting to be a perpetual free-agent would cement his status as a narcissistic mercenary. For the record, I don't think he is. I think Miami is going to lose him this year for the same reason Cleveland lost him in 2010, Pat Riley has failed to surround a winning team around him this year. He has the option to leave, so why wouldn't he?

I think he knows he's the best player in the world, and I think he expects be surrounded by a team that reflects that.

[bwgood77]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/484885825444777990[/tweet]

What exactly does he mean by this?

Trying to figure out by reading his tweets, but obviously something to do with them getting Chris Paul I would guess....but after clicking on the tweet, I came across this.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/484907959822987267[/tweet]

Well, I scrolled through the responses about the original tweet in question and it was mostly people asking "How so?" "What do you mean?" and he never responded. So who knows what it means other than maybe people perceiving LeBron thinking about us may make others think about us, like Love. If he signs elsewhere but this whole process makes Love commit to signing, you gotta consider that a success if he would have been hesitant before (though I guess he probably will see how it goes first before re-signing anywhere).

[Safety Pickle]

How does that bode well for him? So we can go through this whole charade again in 2 years?

I don't think it will be 2 years I think it will be next summer. If he goes back to Miami I think it will be on a 2 yr deal with an opt out after next yr. Contract length is his best leverage and it allows him to flee whenever he sees fit. I expect him to do this the next 3-4 summers.

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If that's the case then he honestly doesn't care about his legacy. Option to be a perpetual free-agent would cement his status as a narcissistic mercenary. For the record, I don't think he is. I think Miami is going to lose him this year for the same reason Cleveland lost him in 2010, Pat Riley has failed to surround a winning team around him this year. He has the option to leave, so why wouldn't he?

I think he knows he's the best player in the world, and I think he expects be surrounded by a team that reflects that.

Can we stop acting like the Heat team that lost to the Spurs was some garbage, second class team full of crap talent? The Spurs played insanely good - like all-time-great good. No team in the league had a chance of beating them in that series

[PassWarden]

I don't think it will be 2 years I think it will be next summer. If he goes back to Miami I think it will be on a 2 yr deal with an opt out after next yr. Contract length is his best leverage and it allows him to flee whenever he sees fit. I expect him to do this the next 3-4 summers.

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If that's the case then he honestly doesn't care about his legacy. Option to be a perpetual free-agent would cement his status as a narcissistic mercenary. For the record, I don't think he is. I think Miami is going to lose him this year for the same reason Cleveland lost him in 2010, Pat Riley has failed to surround a winning team around him this year. He has the option to leave, so why wouldn't he?

I think he knows he's the best player in the world, and I think he expects be surrounded by a team that reflects that.

Can we stop acting like the Heat team that lost to the Spurs was some garbage, second class team full of crap talent? The Spurs played insanely good - like all-time-great good. No team in the league had a chance of beating them in that series

I think you misunderstood, I said they failed to surround him with a good team this year. As in this offseason.

[bwgood77]

Can we stop acting like the Heat team that lost to the Spurs was some garbage, second class team full of crap talent? The Spurs played insanely good - like all-time-great good. No team in the league had a chance of beating them in that series

It's funny. I've been thinking that this whole time. They were still the best team in the east and they were damn lucky to beat the Spurs last year. Anyone would have lost this year. There really isn't much difference....I guess the main thing is that their entire supporting cast came off the books, so who do they sign as supporting cast now.

But yes, just them going back to Miami and adding ok players most likely puts them back in the finals anyway.

[Safety Pickle]

If that's the case then he honestly doesn't care about his legacy. Option to be a perpetual free-agent would cement his status as a narcissistic mercenary. For the record, I don't think he is. I think Miami is going to lose him this year for the same reason Cleveland lost him in 2010, Pat Riley has failed to surround a winning team around him this year. He has the option to leave, so why wouldn't he?

I think he knows he's the best player in the world, and I think he expects be surrounded by a team that reflects that.

Can we stop acting like the Heat team that lost to the Spurs was some garbage, second class team full of crap talent? The Spurs played insanely good - like all-time-great good. No team in the league had a chance of beating them in that series

I think you misunderstood, I said they failed to surround him with a good team this year. As in this offseason.

Fair enough. I thought you were talking this past season

[PassWarden]

Can we stop acting like the Heat team that lost to the Spurs was some garbage, second class team full of crap talent? The Spurs played insanely good - like all-time-great good. No team in the league had a chance of beating them in that series

I think you misunderstood, I said they failed to surround him with a good team this year. As in this offseason.

Fair enough. I thought you were talking this past season

I figured as much. And I agree with you, Pat Riley was masterful in organizing the big 3. But I think even he knew, he'd be hard-pressed to prolong it any more than 4 years.

[Phystic]

metaphorical of course

Yes, I know...it was a joke.

As was my post.

[NTB]

I think Sam Amick means even LeBron doesn't come to PHX, we win. Because we took attention of media and stars.

[WeekapaugGroove]

How does that bode well for him? So we can go through this whole charade again in 2 years?

I don't think it will be 2 years I think it will be next summer. If he goes back to Miami I think it will be on a 2 yr deal with an opt out after next yr. Contract length is his best leverage and it allows him to flee whenever he sees fit. I expect him to do this the next 3-4 summers.

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If that's the case then he honestly doesn't care about his legacy. Opting to be a perpetual free-agent would cement his status as a narcissistic mercenary. For the record, I don't think he is. I think Miami is going to lose him this year for the same reason Cleveland lost him in 2010, Pat Riley has failed to surround a winning team around him this year. He has the option to leave, so why wouldn't he?

I think he knows he's the best player in the world, and I think he expects be surrounded by a team that reflects that.

mercenary is one way to look at it but I actually wouldn't fault him for doing it. With the max contact rules in place hell never actually make what he deserves and he's a guy who doesn't need the financial stability of a long term contract. I can't fault him for playing the flexibility angle because he's just playing the game the owners and players union created. Just because he would set himself up to leave whenever he wants doesn't mean he will change teams every year but it just gives him the freedom to try and win as many rings as he can. Sure the teams owner will want him to commit long term but it's not like any of them will take a hard line and tell him no to whatever contract he wants. That's what he's earned by being the best player on earth.

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[Revived]

The Suns are offering a chance to sign James and his friend Anthony together, but James would have to move rapidly to recruit the New York Knicks' star. Paul represents the Suns' talented point guard Eric Bledsoe, a restricted free agent. All of it remains, for now, a long shot.

That's what I have been saying as well.

[Revived]

Why don't we do this even if we lose LeBron?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... -Elsewhere

[gaspar]

Why don't we do this even if we lose LeBron?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... -Elsewhere

I'm sure we will too.

[Flying Colors]

i can't see Melo happening here, LaLa has him by the short hairs, shes not letting him come to Phoenix

[bwgood77]

I agree. I can't see LaLa here, and Bosh isn't leaving Miami. He loves it there. It's his home and he is going to get a big contract there. I don't even know if he really cares if LeBron is there if he is taken care of.

[RaisingArizona]

Seems like it's down to us or Miami. I really don't see Cleveland happening because of Dan Gilbert and that team is still too young to compete right now. I'd rather Bring Bosh with him than Melo so we can retain everyone else except Tucker who's expendable now. Might still have some cash to bring back Frye or go for Hawes. Probably Hawes would make more sense in this scenario.

Dragic/Ennis
Bledsoe/Goodwin
James/Green/Warren
Bosh/Kieff/Morris
Plumlee/Hawes/Len

[Revived]

Wait are the Lakers seriously going after LeBron?