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Where would you rank last year's Booker on the 2004-05 team?

Best player
12
12%
2nd best
20
19%
3rd best
37
36%
4th best
25
24%
5th best
10
10%
 
Total votes: 104

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Re: Booker updates and news 

Post#301 » by bwgood77 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:56 pm

Saberestar wrote:A win against the Spurs would be a fantastic gift for his birthday! He is gonna play for sure.


May be tough, with DeRozan balling like he is. He had 31 on 12-21 shooting with 9 ast, 6 boards, 3 steals and only 2 turnovers. Need to really go to Ayton. I don't think anyone can guard him. Gasol not playing much and no longer effective. I guess it will probably be Aldridge. They've been playing pretty small though so may get him out on the perimeter a lot and take it to the rim since he doesn't get back for the help.
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Post#302 » by Saberestar » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:31 pm

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Post#303 » by cberry78 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:01 pm

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It's gone now, who said what?
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Re: Booker updates and news 

Post#304 » by rcc8884 » Thu Nov 1, 2018 5:07 pm

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TimHonks wrote:Give me 23 year old Zach Lavine at 4yr/78mil over 25 year old THJ at 4yr/71mil 10 times out of 10.

Give me both over the 5yr/158mil contract Devin Booker just signed. He is the best of the three obviously, but yikes, terrible contract.


19 points, 46 FG%, 3 assists, 3 rebounds, .7 steals in 37 minutes per game at age 21
10 points, 43 FG%, 1 assists, 1.5 rebounds, .5 steals in 23 minutes per game at age 21
28 points, 51 FG%, 7 assists, 4.5 rebounds, 1 steal in 34 minutes per game at age 21

Don't worry guys, Devin Booker is trash


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Re: Booker updates and news 

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Post#306 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Sun Nov 4, 2018 6:16 pm

Tl; dr: Not an update or news, but a take that doesn't seem to fit in any other thread. Booker's not a point. Don't make him one just because we don't have one. Right now and going forward, Devin needs to play less like Mike and more like Klay. This is true even if we don't acquire a starting caliber PG this year - which we shouldn't.

I think a huge problem with this team is Booker's slow drive. He's good going to the basket as a scorer - don't get me wrong. But he's at best an okay passer, and at worst a nightmare. He's not fast enough to create a ton of offense for others when he drives to the basket out of the P&R. And on the drive, when he doesn't find passing lanes available, he often gives up and either forces a tough shot (which he's great at, relatively) or feints a pass: just gives the defense the ball. He doesn't try to extend the possession, because he's not a natural creator. Like TJ, he's a natural scorer, just of a different variety. But he drives too much and it's exactly what the defense wants.

What the defense doesn't want, Devin, is for you to pull up for that three at the top of the arc. They hate that. If you're getting a pick at the top of the key for the fourth straight possession and even if you had missed the last three straight, they'd still prefer that you go to the cup rather than pull up from 3. That three is what makes you dangerous.

So take it. Even if you miss a bunch. Shoot it. Don't drive unless they make you. Eventually, they'll have to trap you up top. Then you dump off to Ayton to work secondary action and then maybe swing the ball around for you to get an open three - or even better - an Ayton dunk or TJ rolling to the rim.

Now I wonder if the issue is: Devin doesn't want to be just a shooter. He cares about his perception, and this is his weakness. He wants to be Kobe. Michael. Wade. That's fine depending on the situation, but those guys played in different eras and were different players. You know what none of those guys had? Your shot. That weapon distinguishes you. Don't try to prove you're just as skilled or versatile or athletic as those guys because WGAF shoot the F'ing three dude and stop throwing the ball away.

.... Now. Because this is how Booker should be used - that is, because Booker isn't a creator - this team could stand to have a ball-dominant pass-first PG like Rubio, Wall, Kemba, Young, Dragic, Fox, Fultz(?), Conley, Paul, Teodosic, Rondo or Dinwiddie. But even though that is the case Booker shouldn't be used as our stand-in PG. It wears him down by making him responsible for too much of the offense, and it calls upon him to do what he is not best at - driving to create opportunities for others - rather than what he is best at: shoot the ******* three. If we want him to be a better defender, we need to let him rest more on offense. And that means Devin being a bit less vain, playing the way he's made to play.

Moving this direction will make this team better this year even if it calls on others to make plays who may not be ready. Start with the expectation that Devin will take that three EVERY TIME. Force the defense to react to that, and you'll have half your offense when he's on the floor. It'll be easier for him and it'll create space for his teammates more than Point Book ever will.

Unless a player is gifted to us, let's figure out the PG situation over the summer. Surely, some player's agent is going to eye that starting PG spot in Phoenix as one of the most attractive opportunities in the league. I'm very curious to see what players might shake loose in free agency. If 2019 is anything like 2004, we won't get Kobe (Durant), but we may end up doing even better by signing a player who is an even better fit. Kobe:Durant::Nash:____?

So to me, this season has become about (1) enjoying the development of Ayton, Booker and Bridges, (2) figuring out what JJ and TJ are to this team and the league, (3) figuring out what we have in our young PGs, (4) preserving and creating 2019 cap space, and (5) conducting auditions for the backup 4/5 spot. Auditioning possible starting PGs isn't on there because we need to preserve cap space to acquire our actual future starting PG, and I'm extremely wary of investing in yet another RFA-to-be. I prefer to root for Canaan, Okobo, Melton and now Jawun Evans, even.
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Re: Booker updates and news 

Post#307 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Nov 5, 2018 1:17 am

I've never been a big fan of Point Book. He's not a natural passer and I've never been a fan of the comparisons to Harden who has shown he had elite passing instincts very early on in his career. Doesn't mean Booker can't pass but I just don't think we're doing him or us any favors by making him Point Book.

I think Point Book has a place in our offense but it can't be a large part of it
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Post#308 » by gaspar » Tue Nov 6, 2018 4:23 pm

Should I bump THIS THREAD now or wait a couple more weeks?
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Post#309 » by RaisingArizona » Tue Nov 6, 2018 5:47 pm

gaspar wrote:Should I bump THIS THREAD now or wait a couple more weeks?


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Post#310 » by grumpysaddle » Tue Nov 6, 2018 7:42 pm

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That photo looks like something dirty is going on and Canaan is lending a hand. :o :lol:
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Post#311 » by bwgood77 » Tue Nov 6, 2018 7:43 pm

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That photo looks like something dirty is going on and Canaan is lending a hand. :o :lol:


And Troy Daniels wants NONE of it!
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Post#312 » by grumpysaddle » Tue Nov 6, 2018 8:04 pm

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That photo looks like something dirty is going on and Canaan is lending a hand. :o :lol:


And Troy Daniels wants NONE of it!


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Re: Booker updates and news 

Post#313 » by bwgood77 » Wed Nov 7, 2018 4:58 am

gaspar wrote:Should I bump THIS THREAD now or wait a couple more weeks?


Probably need to wait a while on that one.
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Re: Booker updates and news 

Post#314 » by Saberestar » Fri Nov 9, 2018 12:30 pm

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Post#315 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Fri Nov 9, 2018 1:01 pm

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BOOOker the LAZY HERO won't run the offense because it means he has to pass the ball. :noway: :nonono: :banghead: :evil: :oops: :cry: :roll: :x

Give me those 1st quarter highlights all game, please. The second half you can keep.
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Post#316 » by _79_ » Fri Nov 9, 2018 7:27 pm

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
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BOOOker the LAZY HERO won't run the offense because it means he has to pass the ball. :noway: :nonono: :banghead: :evil: :oops: :cry: :roll: :x

Give me those 1st quarter highlights all game, please. The second half you can keep.


You would probably rather have a possession finished with a Trevor Ariza 3 than having our best player control the clock at the end of the game. Isaiah Canaan lost us the game on both ends of the court in the last 5 minutes.


Without Booker's hero ball we would be 0-11, and none of our losses would be single digits.
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Post#317 » by itlnsunsfan » Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:08 am

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
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BOOOker the LAZY HERO won't run the offense because it means he has to pass the ball. :noway: :nonono: :banghead: :evil: :oops: :cry: :roll: :x

Give me those 1st quarter highlights all game, please. The second half you can keep.


In his defense, I'm not sure how many wide open looks he got for Ariza and Canaan for 3, but there were several. He was the only one hitting shots.
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Post#318 » by sleepyvato » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:37 am

Absolute bum and a plastic leader with zero heart.

The only thing he will lead the Suns to is straight into the NBA Draft Lottery year after year.
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Post#319 » by darealjuice » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:38 am

sleepyvato wrote:Absolute bum and a plastic leader with zero heart.

The only thing he will lead the Suns to is straight into the NBA Draft Lottery year after year.


Go back to sleep vato
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Post#320 » by sleepyvato » Sun Nov 18, 2018 4:39 am

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sleepyvato wrote:Absolute bum and a plastic leader with zero heart.

The only thing he will lead the Suns to is straight into the NBA Draft Lottery year after year.


Go back to sleep vato


I will, as soon as your boy JJ stops playing like a headless chicken. :wink:

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