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Re: Season speculation, free agency, and trade ideas: The Annual Coaching Search Begins 

Post#301 » by RunDogGun » Thu May 9, 2019 3:58 pm

Come on, its not Kyrie's fault Haywood had that injury. Lebron wasn't guarding Haywood, Lebron was guarding Brown. Haywood had beaten Crowder, and it was a loob backdoor pass. It was a freak injury, and really horrible to watch, thanks for making me watch it again to see what happened. :nonono:

As for Rozier, damn, what a baby. :lol: I am surprised he didn't say,"nobody puts baby in the corner."
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Post#302 » by kennydorglas » Thu May 9, 2019 4:15 pm

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:The way they ended this season I'm not sure Boston will want to keep anyone. Just a shameful performance.

Kyrie is a hell of a talent but I do not like the cut of his jib.

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KD against the Warriors.

Basketball players have a weird form to quit on their teams.
And they arent shy at all to show this. And most fans still dont see it.

Whether he wants out or not, KD has been great. Steph has sucked in their losses though.


I'm talking about KD in OKC. You knew for sure he was leaving.
You can sense he's doing again with GSW, but that team is so stacked, nobody even cares now.
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Post#303 » by King4Day » Thu May 9, 2019 4:27 pm

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alamin330 wrote:If you watch the replay of Hayward’s injury he threw a lob in traffic that he had no business throwing. Hayward was hit in the air by big body lebron and lost balance and the rest is history. Yes it’s his fault. Kyrie makes bad decisions on the court. It’s ok to hold nba players accountable even if they are popular


The pass led to the play that caused it but that's freak accident stuff. You could put blame on just about everyone for everyone's injury if you go by that.

No. You can’t. That pass is the equivalent of a quarterback throwing a pass to a receiver in a position to get hit from behind without being able to brace for the hit. If your teammate is going to take a big hit from his blindside you don’t make the pass. Kyrie threw a lob thinking Hayward would catch it and finish over lebron. That’s a terrible decision and it may have cost him his career


The game is played very fast. I don't think Kyrie was thinking his pass was an injury risk to Hayward, but that he'd throw it anyway. He thought he saw an opportunity but it didn't work out.
It led to the injury but was an accident.
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Post#304 » by King4Day » Thu May 9, 2019 4:56 pm

Thoughts on making a run at Horford if he opts out? Could fit right in next to Ayton, but will be super expensive.
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Post#305 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Thu May 9, 2019 5:28 pm

Not really interested in all these $30 million geezers. Important not to get unreasonably hopeful about these draft prospects either.

Edy Tavares probably the best idea I've heard around here recently. Kudos to Kerrsed!
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Post#306 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu May 9, 2019 5:54 pm

DarkHawk wrote:Thoughts on making a run at Horford if he opts out? Could fit right in next to Ayton, but will be super expensive.
Love Al he's such a good and underrated player.

But I see a couple problems.

1) I imagine he would want to go to contender for one last shot at a ring.

2) but if he just chose the most money route I guess the suns would be in play but that probably means giving him something like 4yr 100mil and that's a dangerous contract. Suns would need to clear salary to get to this number this summer plus that 4th year would overlap with possible Ayton and Bridges extensions.

3) while he could start at PF there would absolutely be teams that you just couldn't play him and Ayton together to close games and since Al is the better defender it probably means Ayton wouldn't be on the court which really isn't ideal for his development.

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Post#307 » by Qwigglez » Thu May 9, 2019 6:13 pm

We’d have to renounce our rights to KO and probably stretch TJ to have the money to go after Horford. I’d rather trade Warren/Jackson for Ibaka since his contract is shorter, gets paid slightly less.
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Post#308 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu May 9, 2019 6:56 pm

DarkHawk wrote:Thoughts on making a run at Horford if he opts out? Could fit right in next to Ayton, but will be super expensive.


I'd like him, But as you yourself mentioned, He'll be super expensive in contrast to what we have available to spend.

That is barring some miracle trades by Jones this summer?? :o
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Post#309 » by bwgood77 » Thu May 9, 2019 7:59 pm

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Kyrie is on another basketball world. The problem for the Celtics is not him, is that Hayward is the 5th best paid player in the NBA and he could not produce because of his injury.

They expected a BIG improvement from Jaylen Brown and Tatum too, and if they have improved at all it was just slightly.

At the end of the day it is all about competiton...last year the Celtics did not play against a team as good as this year's Bucks. That is why they went to the Conference Finals even without Kyrie and Hayward.

Bledsoe is the same player that we saw during four seasons on the Suns, good player for sure but he can not be a leader or an star player on his team.

With Anteto and Middleton next to him he is more free and he can make his work on both sides of the court.

DID you see Kyrie play at all? Did you see how he bricked everything and made bad decisions? He’s also the reason Hayward had that injury due to the terrible pass he threw him last season. I know Kyrie is flashy and has the best handles in the league but besides the flash and handles he doesn’t elevate his team. They played worse with him and better without him. Cavs also made it just as far last year without him. He’s not a leader. He’s not a 1 or 2. He’s better suited as your 3rd option just like Bledsoe.

I have watched Kyrie play, of course.

Amazing player, he has won a championship as a 2nd option already and has shown plenty of times that he is one of the best players in the league.

He played pretty bad last night, but that does not change the big picture. Every player has a bad game here or there.

Rozier is a backup player for now, he needs to show that he is a good player day in and day out yet. The guy does not have a good basketball IQ and that can be a big problem playing PG.

Bledsoe is in the middle IMO. Obviously he has shown that he is an starter in the league and he can be considered a close-to-an-All Star player...but he is not a game changer as Kyrie at all.


Rozier isn't really starting caliber. Maybe for the Suns because they don't have a starting caliber one, or maybe he'd be like 27th-30th best or something like that, but not a guy you should waste much cap space on.
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Post#310 » by BobbieL » Thu May 9, 2019 8:13 pm

No Rozier
No LeBron


Jones needs to find players that fit with team and the next few years to grow as a team. Let Buss and Pelinka deal with James and LeBron-ers.
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Post#311 » by bigfoot » Thu May 9, 2019 8:22 pm

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Post#312 » by Saberestar » Thu May 9, 2019 8:33 pm

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He stayed when Durant wanted out and he recruited Paul George.

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Post#313 » by wheezy » Thu May 9, 2019 8:49 pm

kennydorglas wrote:
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You can in their eyes that they arent THERE anymore (for their teams, of course).
LBJ against the Celtics when he was in Cleveland.
KD against the Warriors.

Basketball players have a weird form to quit on their teams.
And they arent shy at all to show this. And most fans still dont see it.

Whether he wants out or not, KD has been great. Steph has sucked in their losses though.


I'm talking about KD in OKC. You knew for sure he was leaving.
You can sense he's doing again with GSW, but that team is so stacked, nobody even cares now.

You're probably right. My mind was on this season obv.
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Post#314 » by oddity » Thu May 9, 2019 8:52 pm

alamin330 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:Kyrie didn't play well. Certainly not up to the standards that's expected from an elite offensive player. He has to take some blame for their "early" exit. Credit to the Bucks for playing the right way defensively to make it difficult for Kyrie at the perimeter and also with the help. But while Kyrie isn't a superstar like Lebron, KD and Harden who can carry the team by himself, he's by no means a Bledsoe or Rozier level player.

Also wow, I can't believe you just blamed Kyrie for Hayward's injury.

If you watch the replay of Hayward’s injury he threw a lob in traffic that he had no business throwing. Hayward was hit in the air by big body lebron and lost balance and the rest is history. Yes it’s his fault. Kyrie makes bad decisions on the court. It’s ok to hold nba players accountable even if they are popular

No one expects a lob attempt, no matter how bad a pass, to end in their team mate snapping their leg. This is not a point worth making dude.
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Post#315 » by Blonde » Thu May 9, 2019 8:53 pm

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I’m all about accelerating the timeline, but we’re not good enough in the short term to warrant a Russ trade. He might be worth his contract for two more years, but after that when the rest of our core is ready to compete there is a decent risk he is dead weight.

But that is such little value we’re sending for a top 12 player that you have to consider it.
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Post#316 » by kennydorglas » Thu May 9, 2019 9:22 pm

HARD PASS on Russ.
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Post#317 » by Saberestar » Thu May 9, 2019 10:26 pm

Gambo said on the radio that the Suns are not interested in Terry Rozier. He is not an option for the Suns this summer.
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Post#318 » by BobbieL » Thu May 9, 2019 10:37 pm

Saberestar wrote:Gambo said on the radio that the Suns are not interested in Terry Rozier. He is not an option for the Suns this summer.


Gambo has been pushing two names since May of last year -- meaning for the new head coach and point guard

Jason Kidd
Terry Rozier

Neither happened. This means the Suns will probably want Rozier
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Post#319 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu May 9, 2019 10:56 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Gambo said on the radio that the Suns are not interested in Terry Rozier. He is not an option for the Suns this summer.


Gambo has been pushing two names since May of last year -- meaning for the new head coach and point guard

Jason Kidd
Terry Rozier

Neither happened. This means the Suns will probably want Rozier
I hope not. This is one where I do think gambo might have some info. Reason being I think gambo actually believes Rozier is good and that's why he's been touting him and someone from the suns probably told him to stop because it's not happening.

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Post#320 » by darealjuice » Thu May 9, 2019 11:08 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Gambo said on the radio that the Suns are not interested in Terry Rozier. He is not an option for the Suns this summer.


Gambo has been pushing two names since May of last year -- meaning for the new head coach and point guard

Jason Kidd
Terry Rozier

Neither happened. This means the Suns will probably want Rozier


I don't recall Gambo ever saying the Suns wanted Jason Kidd though, just that he personally wanted the Suns to look at Kidd. Gambo's opinions suck, but he's pretty much the Suns unofficial small news mouthpiece.

I don't see us going after Rozier though. Even if he didn't have an underwhelming season, Boston has no reason not to match any reasonable offer, especially if Kyrie is really out. We don't have the free cap space for that, and he's not worth stretching Tyler Johnson for.

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