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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

Post#301 » by GoodBehavior » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:25 pm

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Revived wrote:The same could be said about Ayton too right?

His stats are always good even though many times it feels like empty stats. The Suns would have to extend for the max or whatever he wants simply because of how bad it will look to let him walk after drafting him #1 overall in a draft with a guy who has turned into a top 5 player in the league. Sarver knows he has no other choice but to save face even if Ayton doesn’t improve all that much this season.

Even though their two totally different players, another big man C getting paid is fantastic news for Ayton who is eligible for an extension 6 months from now.
Ayton is extension eligible next summer but won't be a RFA until 2022. But yeah it's a big year for Ayton because I'm sure he'd love to lock down that big extension. Even though the suns don't have to pay him next summer if they aren't sold on paying him they would be wise to move him before being forced into that decision the following year.

Now hopefully he balls out and it's a no brainier for the suns.

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I think if he doesn’t get an extension next summer (regardless of how he plays this season) he’s gonna start angling for a trade to go somewhere else. Not sure what a potential trade market will look like for him.

I don’t think the Suns would trade him or not re-sign him though because of how bad it “looks”. It’s not about doing the smart thing, Sarver is way too prideful to admit he ****ed up the first time ever the team got the top overall pick. I think the Suns will re-sign no matter how he plays this season.

But yeah let’s hope this is all a moot point and Ayton becomes a more impactful player that contributes to winning.


If Gobert is getting $40M, DA probably getting $30M+. There's a scarcity factor with big men, especially one that isn't a total liability on PNR defense. Gobert, fwiw, has been overall bad in the playoff in large part to his inability to guard the PNR.

The bigger issue for Sarver and the organization is Bridges contract/extension. If Oubre is getting in the neighborhood of $25M, Bridges is probably going to be asking $20M+. Then you have Cam, who is up for his the following year, who will probably be asking for north of $20M.
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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

Post#304 » by bwgood77 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:07 pm

Probably good to wait to judge Ayton midway through the season with some time to further develop with some good vets around to push him. He is still offensively better than most bigs just as a roll man, finisher and shorter baseline shots. Looked like he developed a 3 at the end of last season too so I think he will shoot a couple a game. The % might not be great to start but I imagine it gets better.
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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

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Wonder if the league will suspend him for 25 games or if violence like that isn't as frowned upon as extra clear pee
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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

Post#306 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:18 pm

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Wonder if the league will suspend him for 25 games or if violence like that isn't as frowned upon as extra clear pee
I imagine he gets 10-15 games.

The 25 games for Ayton wasn't some arbitrary decision by the league, it's a set number negotiated by the league and players association. Ayton, like all players, knew the risk and potential penalty. He shouldn't have taken PEDs.

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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

Post#309 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:45 pm

Oh man

I get that Issac is good in the games he's played but he's missed like 60 odd games in his rookie season and this past season he's missed half the season. Likewise with Fultz who played a few dozen games over his first two seasons and only this past season has he been able to play a full season and honestly I didn't think he was very good.

It's so crazy with Covid19 hitting the pocketbooks of many owners hard, I would've thought they there would be less hefty cheques being drawn up
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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

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Post#312 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:57 pm

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This is probably a good comp for Bridges market next year.

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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

Post#313 » by Saberestar » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:59 pm

Isaac extension is crazy. Who knows how he will play in a year?
Fultz extension is a joke, he is one of the worst starting PGs in the league.

What are the Magic doing?
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Post#314 » by Saberestar » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:00 pm

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That's a fair deal for both sides and sets the value for Mikal Bridges.
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Post#315 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:11 pm

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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

Post#316 » by Mr Puddles » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:10 am

We got some bargains in free agency signing Saric for 9 mil a year, Crowder for 10 and Jevon Carter for less than 4.

Fultz for 3/50 and Kennard for 4/64 :o :o
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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

Post#317 » by Desertfox » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:12 am

What can we trade for Markkanen? We still have that hole at the 4. Even better if the Bulls can include Sato.
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Post#318 » by matt131 » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:30 am

Desertfox wrote:What can we trade for Markkanen? We still have that hole at the 4. Even better if the Bulls can include Sato.
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Post#319 » by nevetsov » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:45 am

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Desertfox wrote:What can we trade for Markkanen? We still have that hole at the 4. Even better if the Bulls can include Sato.
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Re: Around the NBA - 2020-21 - Rookie Watch and other Highlight Performances 

Post#320 » by Revived » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:08 am

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I knew Kennard would get overpaid, that’s why I wanted nothing to do with trading for him.

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