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Post#301 » by sunsbg » Sat Nov 9, 2024 6:56 am

General board will still tell you Suns don't have draft picks until 2031 so hilarious if RD wins ROY, but not gonna happen baring major injuries to get him playing time, so hopefully not.
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Post#302 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Nov 10, 2024 1:13 am

With KD out for a couple of weeks, I'm really hoping Dunn is good to go. Huge opportunity for him to step up
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Post#303 » by bwgood77 » Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:17 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:With KD out for a couple of weeks, I'm really hoping Dunn is good to go. Huge opportunity for him to step up


Yeah, stretch PF. I know (or thought I heard) they are going to start Royce O'Neale at PF, but he's only 6'4. He has been playing well though. But at least him and Dunn can both stretch the floor...as well as Bol if we play him at all (likely not with Dunn).
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Post#304 » by Saberestar » Wed Nov 13, 2024 12:50 pm

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Post#305 » by sunsbg » Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:08 pm

Now imagine Oso starts hitting 40% on 3s next season too. Nothing is impossible.
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Post#307 » by garrick » Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:33 am

Concerning that he is only shooting 50 percent on free throws and very few of them at that.

I don't think I recall ever seeing a player that hits a high percentage from 3 yet shoots terribly from the free throw line.
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Post#308 » by NapoleonII » Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:51 am

garrick wrote:Concerning that he is only shooting 50 percent on free throws and very few of them at that.

I don't think I recall ever seeing a player that hits a high percentage from 3 yet shoots terribly from the free throw line.


Bruce Bowen, his 3 pt % was higher than his free throw % in one year.
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Post#309 » by garrick » Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:46 am

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garrick wrote:Concerning that he is only shooting 50 percent on free throws and very few of them at that.

I don't think I recall ever seeing a player that hits a high percentage from 3 yet shoots terribly from the free throw line.


Bruce Bowen, his 3 pt % was higher than his free throw % in one year.

I didn't know Bowen was that atrocious of a free throw shooter.

I see now he shot .404 from the stripe in his worst FT shooting season. :o
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Post#310 » by Mulhollanddrive » Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:02 am

Well that was fun while it lasted
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Post#311 » by Saberestar » Tue Nov 19, 2024 10:24 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Well that was fun while it lasted

He is a rookie and just 21 years old, he is gonna have ups and downs all season long.

With the new scouting report defenses aren't giving him too much space. He needs to adapt to harder closeouts and make a pump-fake and go to the rim.

KD and Beal out for the last few games aren't helping him neither. KD specially creates lots of space and opportunities for role players.

The good stuff is that Dunn's defense and effort are always there, we just need to be patient with his offense.
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Post#312 » by sunsbum » Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:47 pm

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Well that was fun while it lasted


The whole teams shooting % collapses when you don't have one of the top 5 scorers in NBA history out there. Feels like it doesn't need any explanation but here we are.
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Post#313 » by sunsbg » Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:12 am

Give the rookie time. A lot of players are streaky. While it's true KD creates better shots, Royce was missing wide open shots vs MIN and he's supposed to be an established 3 & D player in the league. Ryan was never supposed to be a 40% shooter in 1st season. 1/3 is my realistic expectation for now.
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Post#314 » by Saberestar » Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:31 am

sunsbg wrote:Give the rookie time. A lot of players are streaky. While it's true KD creates better shots, Royce was missing wide open shots vs MIN and he's supposed to be an established 3 & D player in the league. Ryan was never supposed to be a 40% shooter in 1st season. 1/3 is my realistic expectation for now.

Exactly.

I would say anything over 33% would be great. Just 34% would be a big success for him and the organization.
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Post#315 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 3:30 am

EVERYONE has some bad shooting games, and we expected this from him and he has FAR exceeded our expectations.
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Post#316 » by Saberestar » Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:39 pm

For the first time in his young career Dunn was 2/2 from the FTL last night against the Blazers.

Another step in the right direction.

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Post#317 » by Saberestar » Tue Dec 17, 2024 10:26 am

Huge article here about Ryan Dunn and his growth as a player. An excerpt:

The funny thing about Dunn's reputation coming into the NBA is that, until relatively recently, he wasn't much of a defender. "In his junior year, he was so small, I would be like, 'You don't box out, you don't block anybody, you don't play D,'" his father, Ed Dunn, said, laughing. Ed said that, starting at 15 years old, Dunn "would stand in the corner and shoot 3s. He would stay outside and shoot 3s. He was a little guy." Before a late growth spurt, his game did not at all resemble what scouts would see at UVA.

"My dad's 100% right: I was the complete opposite," Dunn said. "I couldn't guard anybody. People wanted me to switch onto them so they could go score."

In a way, this makes Dunn's seemingly out-of-nowhere transformation into a 3-and-D guy at the NBA level more comprehensible. "This is who Ryan really is," said Jay David, who coached him as the executive director of the New York Jayhawks AAU team and an assistant coach at Long Island Lutheran High School (LuHi). His trajectory as a defender, though, is objectively preposterous, which makes him an even wilder development story than the shooting suggests.

If you skim Dunn's Wikipedia page and see that he attended Oak Hill Academy -- the powerhouse in rural Virginia that counts Durant and Carmelo Anthony among its former students -- you might get the wrong idea.

"I didn't play on the biggest team at Oak Hill," Dunn said. "I played on the worst team. The triple-triple-low team."

Dunn was anything but a basketball prodigy. "We were all a baseball family, so I always had that love and passion growing up, and my brother would always play, so I would usually follow him," he said. But while his brother, Justin Dunn, would become a major-league pitcher, he eventually "grew out of it." While recovering from an elbow injury, he realized he didn't want to get back on the field. All of his friends hooped, and, since watching James and Paul George go at it in the conference finals, he'd become a more avid fan. Dunn played for his middle school team in eighth grade, and as a high school freshman he told his father that he wanted to take basketball seriously. Ed said he should go to Oak Hill to see what elite players looked like.

"He was a little-ass kid," said Orlando Magic guard Cole Anthony, the consensus top-five recruit who starred at Oak Hill when Dunn was on the White Team. "He was like 5-9, maybe. Big-ass feet -- he probably wore the same size shoe as me then -- and was just this little, skinny, lanky kid. I knew he was gonna grow, and he always had a little game, but I didn't think he -- first of all, I didn't think he was gonna be 6-8."


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Post#318 » by Saberestar » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:48 pm

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Post#319 » by sunsbg » Mon Dec 30, 2024 9:01 pm

3PT shooting has regressed, but some nice finishing expecially the coast to coast one.

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Post#320 » by bwgood77 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 11:06 pm

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Great to see even if a little misleading. Bigs have to guard guys shooting inside (much higher avg %)...Dunn guards a lot of guys shooting 3s...where avg is a lot lower.

He's obviously an awesome defender though and probably the best in the draft, though I can't say I've watched others much.

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