2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation

[King4Day]

James Jones the executive is nearing overrated status.
Once newly signed players can be traded Jones needs to take Jalen smith and elfrid Payton pack their bags and send them to Cleveland for Ricky Rubio

To be a 3rd string PG?

Anything to get rid of Payton and smith.

Those 2 make up about a 3rd of Rubio's salary. Doubt they'd want Saric too. They won't have the roster room to add all of them.

[alamin330]

To be a 3rd string PG?

Anything to get rid of Payton and smith.

Those 2 make up about a 3rd of Rubio's salary. Doubt they'd want Saric too. They won't have the roster room to add all of them.

Yea. I’m dreaming. James Jones has traded more for less. Remember Josh jackson and Melton and tj Warren? Why is he hoarding guys like smith and Alexander. I don’t understand

[Barkley6]

………And I think McGee and Kaminsky could play well together as well. I'm actually excited to see Frank get some PF minutes with McGee at the 5 because I think he can be more effective in that role than being a C.

And this is when I threw up in my mouth

Frank plays his best at the 4. That 9 game win streak we went on with Frank starting? He was playing the 4.

I also think it's beneficial to have backup bigs that can play together, because Saric and Frank could never be on the floor at the same time. McGee and Frank actually can play off each other successfully.

I know you don't like Frank, but objectively, for the minimum, to play at most 8-10 minutes a night, it's not a terrible signing.

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[STEV13]

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Jake Fischer has been spot on this off season so there’s that.

Thad Young?

[BobbieL]

Interesting tweet from Sidery. Looking at the value of Smith. Personally, he is cheap for a few years and they need his skill set. Now I am okay seeing what the return is. If the trade is Saric and Smith for Young - thats not good to me.

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[BobbieL]

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Jake Fischer has been spot on this off season so there’s that.

Thad Young?

So using Smith to get off the Saric contract to save long term money. I don't like using Smith this way. But yes, Jake F has been pretty solid in his reporting

And now Flex can say "I told you so - a two for 1 trade"

[Saberestar]

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The Suns still have an open roster spot and part of the mid-level exception to play with, and Phoenix is entertaining various options, including gauging rival interest in 2020 lottery pick Jalen Smith, sources said.

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Jake Fischer has been spot on this off season so there’s that.

Thad Young?

He is the player on the market that makes more sense for the Suns.

Jalen Smith + Saric for Thad Young it is the most simple and solid trade... but I would hate to lose Jalen this early.

[WeekapaugGroove]

………And I think McGee and Kaminsky could play well together as well. I'm actually excited to see Frank get some PF minutes with McGee at the 5 because I think he can be more effective in that role than being a C.

And this is when I threw up in my mouth

Frank plays his best at the 4. That 9 game win streak we went on with Frank starting? He was playing the 4.

I also think it's beneficial to have backup bigs that can play together, because Saric and Frank could never be on the floor at the same time. McGee and Frank actually can play off each other successfully.

I know you don't like Frank, but objectively, for the minimum, to play at most 8-10 minutes a night, it's not a terrible signing.

I think Frank starting and the 9 game win streak is one of the situations where corolation doesn't equal causation. Hell some of those games he didn't actually play much after starting.

Frank 'can' play the 4 in the sense that he can stand in the corner and shoot 3s, that's basically the role of a PF in the suns O. But I think his best position is the 5 and getting to do some of the top of the key stuff they run with Dario.

I do agree that Frank and McGee are better suited to share the floor than Frank and Saric but I hope we don't see that too much.

I also agree that while everyone seems to hate Frank he's completely fine as an end of the bench big. Hell it's probably unpopular opinion but I actually thought he did a good job in game 6 of the finals (he was really bad some earlier finals games though).

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[matt131]

I know nobody here trusts or likes him, but I find the tweets entertaining

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A couple of days ago he said he couldn't name players involved. But now he names them...? Seems like a grab for more attention. Seems so weird that the suns would trade smith away.

Edit: now that I see Sidery's tweet, I think Mr. From Jersey is just using that info to go along with his previously made up story

[BobbieL]

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Jake Fischer has been spot on this off season so there’s that.

Thad Young?

He is the player on the market that makes more sense for the Suns.

Jalen Smith + Saric for Thad Young it is the most simple and solid trade... but I would hate to lose Jalen this early.

Its simple but it does give up pretty quickly on Smith when he is cheap for three more years. From SArvers position - trading Young for Saric and Smith would possibly get him under the Tax Apron - though still above the lux tax. And if you have YOungs right - could sign him to a longer term deal - maybe 2/12 or something.

But still - I am not sure I want to give up Smith too soon but if it happens - so be it. You move on.

[SunsLyf3]

Anything to get rid of Payton and smith.

Those 2 make up about a 3rd of Rubio's salary. Doubt they'd want Saric too. They won't have the roster room to add all of them.

Yea. I’m dreaming. James Jones has traded more for less. Remember Josh jackson and Melton and tj Warren? Why is he hoarding guys like smith and Alexander. I don’t understand

TJ Warren became Rubio which then became CP3.

Trash Jackson and Melton became Jevon, Kyle korver(cap space) which was a good trade.

The guy obviously has a plan.

[BobbieL]

Sidery tweet - I would prefer Nance in this scenario I think but YOung would be off the books next year. Nance would be under $10m and is signed. Still above the apron and lux tax I believe

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[darealjuice]

Not against trading Smith, but not particularly high on moving him for Thad Young. He's solid, not really a needle mover though. Feels really short sighted moving Dario and Smith for a 33 year old back-up power forward on an expiring contract. Nance makes a bit more sense.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Not against trading Smith, but not particularly high on moving him for Thad Young. He's solid, not really a needle mover though. Feels really short sighted moving Dario and Smith for a 33 year old back-up power forward on an expiring contract. Nance makes a bit more sense.

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[STEV13]

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Jake Fischer has been spot on this off season so there’s that.

Thad Young?

He is the player on the market that makes more sense for the Suns.

Jalen Smith + Saric for Thad Young it is the most simple and solid trade... but I would hate to lose Jalen this early.

Its simple but it does give up pretty quickly on Smith when he is cheap for three more years. From SArvers position - trading Young for Saric and Smith would possibly get him under the Tax Apron - though still above the lux tax. And if you have YOungs right - could sign him to a longer term deal - maybe 2/12 or something.

But still - I am not sure I want to give up Smith too soon but if it happens - so be it. You move on.

Sidery mentioned Larry Nance Jr. as another possible option. Salary wise that’s a perfect fit. Dont really know if these guys have legit sources, but they sure do know more than any of us.

Sidery was first on the Payton news.

Anyway, if this is the way the FO decides to go, then yeah, so be it. I’d rather have Nance that Thad though.

[Saberestar]

Not against trading Smith, but not particularly high on moving him for Thad Young. He's solid, not really a needle mover though. Feels really short sighted moving Dario and Smith for a 33 year old back-up power forward on an expiring contract.

I would say that 33 is old for some other player, but Thad Young is in amazing physical condition. He is not slowing down at all.

And he would be our third big more than only a backup.

[BobbieL]

Not against trading Smith, but not particularly high on moving him for Thad Young. He's solid, not really a needle mover though. Feels really short sighted moving Dario and Smith for a 33 year old back-up power forward on an expiring contract. Nance makes a bit more sense.

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One year of Young to me feels like part salary dump for next year and part putting chips, going a bit all in the table for this year.

But if they do it - they do it. Smith has a long way to go - might have just been a bad draft pick by Jones. If so, you move on. But prefer Nance as he is signed for next year and at under 11m - pretty good value.

[darealjuice]

Not against trading Smith, but not particularly high on moving him for Thad Young. He's solid, not really a needle mover though. Feels really short sighted moving Dario and Smith for a 33 year old back-up power forward on an expiring contract.

I would say that 33 is old for some other player, but Thad Young is in amazing physical condition. He is not slowing down at all.

And he would be our third big more than only a backup.

I wouldn't consider him a third big. He's not playing much center, if any. Unless Mikal (Regular Season 32.5 mpg, Playoffs 32.1 mpg), Crowder (27.5, 33), and Cam (24, 21) are playing less minutes next year, he's only playing 10-15 minutes per game. And again, he's on an expiring contract, so it'd potentially be a patch job with Ayton and Mikal's pay day coming up.