2016 Draft

[MathiasPW]

Am I crazy for liking Dunn? He's just so strong and explosive at great size for a point guard.
Downside would be his age and my aversion to taking old seniors high in the draft. But ****, he has a tight handle, athletic, can finish in traffic like Archie has never shown, willing passer, and great size.
Depending on where we pick I would be happy with Dunn.

Edit: for some reason I thought he was 23 but he's a bit younger than TJ. I'd be happy with Dunn and try to move knight and depending on Dunn's growth, bledsoe as well. But that's for a different thread.

Draft BPA no matter what.

Liking Dunn is fine. Assuming we will draft him is where the crazyness may be. Even if we are willing to move Knight, it's almost impossible we would move Bledsoe, who really has/had been playing amazing basketball. And Dunn doesn't have the shooting skills to act like the 2nd guard (PG/SG) the Suns envisioned in Dragic or Knight, while Bledsoe doesn't have the size.

So he would be our bench guard. And I am assuming there is too much of a career risk for a GM to draft a bench guy when he is picking top 4

[thamadkant]

Dunn is 22 years old... he's older than Goodwin by a year. I dont mind Dunn, but I think unless Suns has a trade lined up for Bledsoe and Knight for additional top 10 picks, so that Suns can get Dunn as their 2nd pick then I wouldnt look at Dunn. Plenty of PGs in the league. I do see his potential, but would rather probably try to get Dante Exum for cheaper off Jazz, since he is much younger and seems more like a cerebral type PG... againts assuming Suns have trades linedup.

[ATTL]

Dunn is 5 months older than Archie, march 18 1994 and august 17 1994.
I'd still prefer Simmons, Ingram, and bender but don't think Rabb would be a sure thing over Dunn. Ideally we would take dunn with a second lotto pick.

[bwgood77]

Dunn is 22 years old... he's older than Goodwin by a year. I dont mind Dunn, but I think unless Suns has a trade lined up for Bledsoe and Knight for additional top 10 picks, so that Suns can get Dunn as their 2nd pick then I wouldnt look at Dunn. Plenty of PGs in the league. I do see his potential, but would rather probably try to get Dante Exum for cheaper off Jazz, since he is much younger and seems more like a cerebral type PG... againts assuming Suns have trades linedup.

I don't mind age that much since he's a lot better than Goodwin.

[bwgood77]

Am I crazy for liking Dunn? He's just so strong and explosive at great size for a point guard.
Downside would be his age and my aversion to taking old seniors high in the draft. But ****, he has a tight handle, athletic, can finish in traffic like Archie has never shown, willing passer, and great size.
Depending on where we pick I would be happy with Dunn.

Edit: for some reason I thought he was 23 but he's a bit younger than TJ. I'd be happy with Dunn and try to move knight and depending on Dunn's growth, bledsoe as well. But that's for a different thread.

Draft BPA no matter what.


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As others have said, unless we trade some guards (Knight, Goodwin) we don't need Dunn. But I do like him. I don't mind 4 year players. Duncan was one. He turned out at least OK. Nash did too and he wasn't THAT bad.

[MathiasPW]

As others have said, unless we trade some guards (Knight, Goodwin) we don't need Dunn. But I do like him. I don't mind 4 year players. Duncan was one. He turned out at least OK. Nash did too and he wasn't THAT bad.

Still think we wouldn't draft Dunn if we shipped Knight and/or Goodwin. Dunn would have to replace Bledsoe in our system, and that won't happen.

[thamadkant]

Dunn is 22 years old... he's older than Goodwin by a year. I dont mind Dunn, but I think unless Suns has a trade lined up for Bledsoe and Knight for additional top 10 picks, so that Suns can get Dunn as their 2nd pick then I wouldnt look at Dunn. Plenty of PGs in the league. I do see his potential, but would rather probably try to get Dante Exum for cheaper off Jazz, since he is much younger and seems more like a cerebral type PG... againts assuming Suns have trades linedup.

I don't mind age that much since he's a lot better than Goodwin.

In your opinion, and you're probably right. But...

Until Dunn translate his stats and game into the NBA, its not a fact. Beasley was a 30/15 player in college at one point.

[thamadkant]

As some has stated... this draft is likely to be a 2 player draft, in regards to star players.

Ingram is my choice. Blocks and Steals are HUGE indicator for how a player will translate in the pros and live up to their potential.
By the time the draft hits, I think Ingram will be 6'10 in shoes with a massive 7'3 wingspan and over 9 feet standing reach. For a SG/SF... thats nice.

[8on]

i like Dunn, Ellenson, Rabb, Simmons, Ingram, Kyle Wiltjer, and Caris LeVert.

but for us, we don't Ingram when we have T.J.

i think for us, it's Simmons or a role player.

[bwgood77]

I saw Ingram play today, he is very good I am not totally sold on Simmons. Please get a top two pick. We will be 2-5

Simmons will NEED to be surrounded with shooters since he does everything else but can't shoot. If we keep our two guards and their iso play, regardless of coach, Simmons needs to be more of a point forward.

Ingram could probably fit in well with Bledsoe, Booker, Warren, etc.

By the way, I guess we should be talking about this in the draft/college basketball thread...so I will move this response there.

[bwgood77]

So the Suns play at the same time as Cal and two possible Suns picks (Ivan Rabb and Jaylen Brown). Who will be toggling between the two?

Zeus and Anderson already dominating Ivan Rabb and Jaylen Brown.

[JMac1]

I saw Ingram play today, he is very good I am not totally sold on Simmons. Please get a top two pick. We will be 2-5

Simmons will NEED to be surrounded with shooters since he does everything else but can't shoot. If we keep our two guards and their iso play, regardless of coach, Simmons needs to be more of a point forward.

Ingram could probably fit in well with Bledsoe, Booker, Warren, etc.

By the way, I guess we should be talking about this in the draft/college basketball thread...so I will move this response there.

I was coming here to post that...spot on young man.

With Simmons not being a shooter in today's game, definitely Ingram. Booker and Ingram

[bwgood77]

I saw Ingram play today, he is very good I am not totally sold on Simmons. Please get a top two pick. We will be 2-5

Simmons will NEED to be surrounded with shooters since he does everything else but can't shoot. If we keep our two guards and their iso play, regardless of coach, Simmons needs to be more of a point forward.

Ingram could probably fit in well with Bledsoe, Booker, Warren, etc.

By the way, I guess we should be talking about this in the draft/college basketball thread...so I will move this response there.

I was coming here to post that...spot on young man.

With Simmons not being a shooter in today's game, definitely Ingram. Booker and Ingram

btw, I was watching the UCLA/Oregon game early, but had to leave to go somewhere before halftime....how did that one turn out? I was surprised to see early in the game that Oregon's RPI was 7th.

[8on]

LeBron "couldn't shoot" when he got to the NBA.

[Duke4life831]

LeBron "couldn't shoot" when he got to the NBA.

Lol ya he really improved that

[JMac1]

Simmons will NEED to be surrounded with shooters since he does everything else but can't shoot. If we keep our two guards and their iso play, regardless of coach, Simmons needs to be more of a point forward.

Ingram could probably fit in well with Bledsoe, Booker, Warren, etc.

By the way, I guess we should be talking about this in the draft/college basketball thread...so I will move this response there.

I was coming here to post that...spot on young man.

With Simmons not being a shooter in today's game, definitely Ingram. Booker and Ingram

btw, I was watching the UCLA/Oregon game early, but had to leave to go somewhere before halftime....how did that one turn out? I was surprised to see early in the game that Oregon's RPI was 7th.

We are just so inconsistent, just like the football team. Bottom-line is, we have no top players. Oregon won pretty easily, we cut the lead down to 3 in the 2nd half, but Alford and Holiday are 2nd tier college starters even though they have their days.

[JMac1]

LeBron "couldn't shoot" when he got to the NBA.

Lol ya he really improved that

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

I'm so pumped about our twin towers that I'm looking into center prospects in this draft. In addition to Poeltl, there's Kristaps Amerizingis, aka Stephen Zimmerman. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Stephen-Zimmerman-7099/

We don't need to limit our hopes to Ingram and Simmons. This is shaping up to be a very good draft, IMO.

[kennydorglas]

I'm so pumped about our twin towers that I'm looking into center prospects in this draft. In addition to Poeltl, there's Kristaps Amerizingis, aka Stephen Zimmerman. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Stephen-Zimmerman-7099/

We don't need to limit our hopes to Ingram and Simmons. This is shaping up to be a very good draft, IMO.

Oh, I love Big Z too. Sign me in.

I'm just concerned about this draft being based on freshmen. If a couple of them return to the school, this draft will be screwed BIG TIME.

And knowing our luck, I wouldnt bet against it at all.

[saintEscaton]

LeBron "couldn't shoot" when he got to the NBA.

Bron could at least drain the open jumper and make defenders pay when they sagged off his rookie season. at the younger age of 18 Simmons has attempted less than 5 treys and has cost LSU wins when he passes up good looks and he's not close to the freak of nature