Igor fired - New Coaching Search Discussion

[WeekapaugGroove]

I think I've hit the point where I hope they hire Kidd. Not because he's the coach they need but he's the coach this franchise deserves.

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Mizell had some names: From this list, I like : Becky Hammon, Ime Udoka, Juwan Howard - if looking at a first timer. But your comment about Kidd is correct. SArver has earned the right.

Monty Williams, who is currently a Philadelphia assistant and a candidate for the Lakers’ job, was hired by Bower as New Orleans’ head coach in 2010 during Bower’s stint as general manager. Williams was also an assistant coach with Portland from 2005-10, including during Jones’ time as a player there from 2007-08. Williams was also an assistant in Oklahoma City from 2015-16.

Other candidates floated for various head-coaching vacancies include former Cleveland head coach Ty Lue and current assistants Sam Cassell (Clippers), Jordi Fernandez (Denver), Becky Hammon (San Antonio), Juwan Howard (Miami), Alex Jensen (Utah), Jamahl Mosley (Dallas), Stephen Silas (Dallas), Ime Udoka (San Antonio), Wes Unseld Jr. (Denver) and David Vanderpool (Portland).

According to Zach Lowe Hammon is one of the best assistants in the league. I'd be up for that.

They would win a news cycle and get praised for hiring a female coach then get killed when they fired her next spring.

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[darmani]

Mixed feeling about this.

Igor definitely wasn't alpha, didn't use Ayton correctly, and I wasn't a fan of his complicated offense.

However, this is the first time in YEARS the Suns have shown up to every game and competed. Our team was way better then our record indicated and no one on this team quit (unlike previous years). Additionally, with such a young team, I liked that Igor seemed to be a bit of a hardass about fundamentals.

If we bring in a new coach, it better be someone BETTER.

But my fear is that this was just Sarver being impatient.

This is so not true. Not sure what team you were watching.

The young team that beat the Bucks twice, beat the Warriors, and (unlike previous teams) never quit.

So all these 20+ pts blowouts never happened? The longest loosing streak in franchise history never happened? Back-to-back 9-point 1st quarters never happened? The Suns played a 10-game stretch of good basketball, but the rest of the season they weren't competitive at all. They played much harder under Watson and Triano.

[BobbieL]

Mizell had some names: From this list, I like : Becky Hammon, Ime Udoka, Juwan Howard - if looking at a first timer. But your comment about Kidd is correct. SArver has earned the right.

Monty Williams, who is currently a Philadelphia assistant and a candidate for the Lakers’ job, was hired by Bower as New Orleans’ head coach in 2010 during Bower’s stint as general manager. Williams was also an assistant coach with Portland from 2005-10, including during Jones’ time as a player there from 2007-08. Williams was also an assistant in Oklahoma City from 2015-16.

Other candidates floated for various head-coaching vacancies include former Cleveland head coach Ty Lue and current assistants Sam Cassell (Clippers), Jordi Fernandez (Denver), Becky Hammon (San Antonio), Juwan Howard (Miami), Alex Jensen (Utah), Jamahl Mosley (Dallas), Stephen Silas (Dallas), Ime Udoka (San Antonio), Wes Unseld Jr. (Denver) and David Vanderpool (Portland).

According to Zach Lowe Hammon is one of the best assistants in the league. I'd be up for that.

They would win a news cycle and get praised for hiring a female coach then get killed when they fired her next spring.

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Thats the problem with a Hammons hire - it would win the news cycle but with the instability, hard to think she would want the job.

[WeekapaugGroove]

According to Zach Lowe Hammon is one of the best assistants in the league. I'd be up for that.

They would win a news cycle and get praised for hiring a female coach then get killed when they fired her next spring.

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Thats the problem with a Hammons hire - it would win the news cycle but with the instability, hard to think she would want the job.

I wouldn't be a fan of the hire. Not that it's right but I really think to succeed as the first woman head coach she needs to coach a vet team and probably specifically SA where the players know and respect her. Putting her with a bunch of young immature players is a recipe for a disaster and a PR problem.

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[bwgood77]

Hell, at least the Cav's are smart and are looking at hiring Rick Pitino for their vacancy, which is a great move and EXACTLY what we should be doing now that we made the mistake of firing Igor. We got a super young team and pretty much the only way in my eyes to rectify the situation and get a coach with some sort of pedigree and experience is to snag one from the NCAA, someone with a real record of working with youngsters and helping develop them. Im looking at Pitino. Im Looking at Shaka Smart. Im looking at Jay Wright. Im looking at Mark Few. Coach K aint leaving the College Game, an honestly i dont think Coach Cal is all that great (Kentucky just has a history of getting the top players and stacking the deck for him).

Its sad because a small part of me wants to see Kidd get the Head Coaching Job just so we can see this dumpster fire reach its maximum potential level of rage in all its glory and absolutely burn everything to the ground.

Pitino is terrible in the NBA. He's a recruiter. Good recruiters in college look great because they have superior talent to everyone else. He tried in the NBA when he was a lot better coach and failed pretty badly. And now he has gotten in trouble multiple times for all sorts of bad character issues.

Shaka Smart has been kind of a disappointment at Texas. I thought he'd be great after what he did at VCU. Though he could be good because at VCU he showed he was more of an overachiever. In Texas it's all about recruiting and then you have to play in the toughest conference. I don't think guys like Mark Few and Jay Wright would ever leave.

I mean those guys have lifetime jobs at places they are worshipped, probably make quite a bit more money than they would under Sarver, and any coach is lucky to last 2 years with him.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Hell, at least the Cav's are smart and are looking at hiring Rick Pitino for their vacancy, which is a great move and EXACTLY what we should be doing now that we made the mistake of firing Igor. We got a super young team and pretty much the only way in my eyes to rectify the situation and get a coach with some sort of pedigree and experience is to snag one from the NCAA, someone with a real record of working with youngsters and helping develop them. Im looking at Pitino. Im Looking at Shaka Smart. Im looking at Jay Wright. Im looking at Mark Few. Coach K aint leaving the College Game, an honestly i dont think Coach Cal is all that great (Kentucky just has a history of getting the top players and stacking the deck for him).

Its sad because a small part of me wants to see Kidd get the Head Coaching Job just so we can see this dumpster fire reach its maximum potential level of rage in all its glory and absolutely burn everything to the ground.

Pitino is terrible in the NBA. He's a recruiter. Good recruiters in college look great because they have superior talent to everyone else. He tried in the NBA when he was a lot better coach and failed pretty badly. And now he has gotten in trouble multiple times for all sorts of bad character issues.

Shaka Smart has been kind of a disappointment at Texas. I thought he'd be great after what he did at VCU. Though he could be good because at VCU he showed he was more of an overachiever. In Texas it's all about recruiting and then you have to play in the toughest conference. I don't think guys like Mark Few and Jay Wright would ever leave.

I mean those guys have lifetime jobs at places they are worshipped, probably make quite a bit more money than they would under Sarver, and any coach is lucky to last 2 years with him.

I don't think it's likely Jay Wright leaves but it's not completely impossible. Some guys get that itch to see how they could do at the highest level and if he wants to take that risk he should do it in the next couple years before he gets viewed as too old.

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[bwgood77]

Hell, at least the Cav's are smart and are looking at hiring Rick Pitino for their vacancy, which is a great move and EXACTLY what we should be doing now that we made the mistake of firing Igor. We got a super young team and pretty much the only way in my eyes to rectify the situation and get a coach with some sort of pedigree and experience is to snag one from the NCAA, someone with a real record of working with youngsters and helping develop them. Im looking at Pitino. Im Looking at Shaka Smart. Im looking at Jay Wright. Im looking at Mark Few. Coach K aint leaving the College Game, an honestly i dont think Coach Cal is all that great (Kentucky just has a history of getting the top players and stacking the deck for him).

Its sad because a small part of me wants to see Kidd get the Head Coaching Job just so we can see this dumpster fire reach its maximum potential level of rage in all its glory and absolutely burn everything to the ground.

Pitino is terrible in the NBA. He's a recruiter. Good recruiters in college look great because they have superior talent to everyone else. He tried in the NBA when he was a lot better coach and failed pretty badly. And now he has gotten in trouble multiple times for all sorts of bad character issues.

Shaka Smart has been kind of a disappointment at Texas. I thought he'd be great after what he did at VCU. Though he could be good because at VCU he showed he was more of an overachiever. In Texas it's all about recruiting and then you have to play in the toughest conference. I don't think guys like Mark Few and Jay Wright would ever leave.

I mean those guys have lifetime jobs at places they are worshipped, probably make quite a bit more money than they would under Sarver, and any coach is lucky to last 2 years with him.

I don't think it's likely Jay Wright leaves but it's not completely impossible. Some guys get that itch to see how they could do at the highest level and if he wants to take that risk he should do it in the next couple years before he gets viewed as too old.

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If he ever does leave it wouldn't be for the Suns. Maybe if Philly moved on from Brown or something.

[BobbieL]

Pitino is terrible in the NBA. He's a recruiter. Good recruiters in college look great because they have superior talent to everyone else. He tried in the NBA when he was a lot better coach and failed pretty badly. And now he has gotten in trouble multiple times for all sorts of bad character issues.

Shaka Smart has been kind of a disappointment at Texas. I thought he'd be great after what he did at VCU. Though he could be good because at VCU he showed he was more of an overachiever. In Texas it's all about recruiting and then you have to play in the toughest conference. I don't think guys like Mark Few and Jay Wright would ever leave.

I mean those guys have lifetime jobs at places they are worshipped, probably make quite a bit more money than they would under Sarver, and any coach is lucky to last 2 years with him.

I don't think it's likely Jay Wright leaves but it's not completely impossible. Some guys get that itch to see how they could do at the highest level and if he wants to take that risk he should do it in the next couple years before he gets viewed as too old.

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If he ever does leave it wouldn't be for the Suns. Maybe if Philly moved on from Brown or something.

I saw that you replied to her on twitter but Ashley Nevel was right

I am guessing she got lucky ...

[WeekapaugGroove]

Pitino is terrible in the NBA. He's a recruiter. Good recruiters in college look great because they have superior talent to everyone else. He tried in the NBA when he was a lot better coach and failed pretty badly. And now he has gotten in trouble multiple times for all sorts of bad character issues.

Shaka Smart has been kind of a disappointment at Texas. I thought he'd be great after what he did at VCU. Though he could be good because at VCU he showed he was more of an overachiever. In Texas it's all about recruiting and then you have to play in the toughest conference. I don't think guys like Mark Few and Jay Wright would ever leave.

I mean those guys have lifetime jobs at places they are worshipped, probably make quite a bit more money than they would under Sarver, and any coach is lucky to last 2 years with him.

I don't think it's likely Jay Wright leaves but it's not completely impossible. Some guys get that itch to see how they could do at the highest level and if he wants to take that risk he should do it in the next couple years before he gets viewed as too old.

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If he ever does leave it wouldn't be for the Suns. Maybe if Philly moved on from Brown or something.

Yeah he would definitely be best suited to go the Billy Donovan route and take over a good team if he makes the leap.

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[bwgood77]

Oh, oh! I have a signature request! Can you make Sarver as a Star Wars Darth Sidious? Pleeeaaaase

Animation is kinda scuffed, but its 6:30am and i havent slept yet....so yeah.

FRIGGIN LOVE IT! THANK YOU!

Can't he be The Night King....with all of these ex coaches as his wights?

[darealjuice]

The Jay Wright ship probably sailed when his good friend Ryan McDonough got fired. Pitino would be fitting for this dumpster fire, although I hope it doesn’t happen. Not sure what to expect at this point. I don’t see why someone would take this job knowing they’ve got a year to prove themselves or they’re out, but then again there are a very limited amount of NBA Head Coach jobs.

[bwgood77]

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This is some gibberish, I'm honestly not even sure what he's trying to get at here.

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I am not sure why anyone would take anything Gambo says seriously. He either makes stuff up or says exactly what the FO tells him to...or says he talked to people around the league and reports their speculations or questions or thoughts as facts.

[WeekapaugGroove]

The Jay Wright ship probably sailed when his good friend Ryan McDonough got fired. Pitino would be fitting for this dumpster fire, although I hope it doesn’t happen. Not sure what to expect at this point. I don’t see why someone would take this job knowing they’ve got a year to prove themselves or they’re out, but then again there are a very limited amount of NBA Head Coach jobs.

Pitino would be worth it for all the 'seven seconds or less' jokes that would ensue lol

Suns haven't fired Prunty who just so happened to be Kidd's lead assistant in Milwaukee. Probably only a matter of time before Kidd is made official and I take a break from this team.

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[WeekapaugGroove]

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This is some gibberish, I'm honestly not even sure what he's trying to get at here.

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I am not sure why anyone would take anything Gambo says seriously. He either makes stuff up or says exactly what the FO tells him to...or says he talked to people around the league and reports their speculations or questions or thoughts as facts.

It is such a ridiculous claim that it took me a while to figure it out but I assume he meant that the organization felt they were going to win with those washed up vets. Probably the funniest thing I've read on Twitter today.

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[Qwigglez]

I think perhaps Igor was more of a McD hire, and with the new front office they want to build it there own way.
While I don’t agree with firing Igor, I didn’t see him developing Ayton very well. Also, for being a European style head coach, I didn’t understand why we didn’t utilize Bender from the beginning of the season. Instead Bender got spot minutes every 3-5 games which lowered his confidence throughout the year.
I’d take Gentry if for some reason he gets fired. Don’t really agree with Monty Williams, or Jason Kidd especially. I do like Becky Hammon, but I find it very hard seeing the players respect a female head coach the same way. If we could make her lead assistant.

[zero24gravity]

Tough go for Igor, whom I loved as a Jazz assistant. Hard to understand what the Suns are thinking here. 1 year for a new coach on a young team with limited talent. Did they expect a playoff run? The Jazz players reportedly adore Igor, so it's difficult to believe that the Suns players would have a totally different experience with him, but we probably will never really know.

I'd be thrilled to take Kokoskov back as a top assistant in Utah, but I suspect that he'll get another head coach shot elsewhere.

[darmani]

The Jay Wright ship probably sailed when his good friend Ryan McDonough got fired. Pitino would be fitting for this dumpster fire, although I hope it doesn’t happen. Not sure what to expect at this point. I don’t see why someone would take this job knowing they’ve got a year to prove themselves or they’re out, but then again there are a very limited amount of NBA Head Coach jobs.

Being the Suns head coach is the best job in the league. You have to work for only a year but you get the salary for 3 years.

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[bwgood77]

I do expect this move was made because certain key player(s) flamed Igor on their exit interviews. But that might tell you more about those players than Igor IMO.

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Which players and what did they say?

This is just my assumption. Just have to think for them to do this after 1 year on a terrible roster that certain guys complained to Jones.

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That was my first thought....because of the timing. Ashley Nevel liked an old tweet I had responded to her when she tweeted he would probably be gone and it wasn't fair to him if so. I asked her last night if she thought it had to do with a player complaint.

My thought was someone probably expected him to be fired...probably Booker, and when it hadn't happened up until now the agent contacted the team asking about it or expressing concern.

This is obviously just my speculation but if so It's just a bad situation because I think Booker got about as bad example as you can from coaching under Watson, giving him full control....probably not really trying to coach him much, and the team does everything it can to appease Booker.

Anyway, I had thought Igor would probably be fired but kind of stopped thinking about it thinking maybe he would be safe since it didn't happen quickly but I shouldn't be surprised.

I had thought that our team regardless of coach, barring massive roster changes, will have a hard time improving a lot next year so Igor would have likely been gone anyway, so in that case at least they will realize they need more help.

Obviously, by default, we should be about 12-15 games better just with a decent PG, health, more roster balance and the rookies improving.

[BobbieL]

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This is some gibberish, I'm honestly not even sure what he's trying to get at here.

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I am not sure why anyone would take anything Gambo says seriously. He either makes stuff up or says exactly what the FO tells him to...or says he talked to people around the league and reports their speculations or questions or thoughts as facts.

It is such a ridiculous claim that it took me a while to figure it out but I assume he meant that the organization felt they were going to win with those washed up vets. Probably the funniest thing I've read on Twitter today.

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Two of the veterans Gambo listed were not even on the roster when Igor was hired. So Stupid...