2019 free agency and trade ideas: part 2 Downloading

[WeekapaugGroove]

Derozan was coming off 3 straight all-star games and had just lead the raps to their 1st ever one-seed. They failed against Lebron but who can really blame them for that. KL was coming off one of the most bizarre seasons any player had ever in NBA history. He bails on what was thought to be the gold standard for NBA teams-the NBA's version of the New England patriots really. He was known to only wanna play in LA. No one knew if he was even gonna show up in Toronto. Other teams were scared to make a trade. The raps took a major gamble on him and gave up one of their most beloved players EVER for a guy who might not show and this isn't even bringing up his injury that kept him out the whole year-and still bothers him even now.

The kings were run by Vivek and Valde- who were a league joke at the time for making that trade. I remember those 2 getting roasted more then Dolan was at the time and more then Jennie Buss is today. NOP got Boogie because Vivek had a hard on for Hield and they still got a top 10 pick on top of that.

Funny part is as much as the kings were killed in the end they won that trade. I get why the pels did it but realistically had they kept buddy and picked well with that pick they probably have a much better team last season.

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I agree with you but its alittle unfair. Boogie just had terrible luck much like Durant. As a suns fan I need to have reasons to keep watching NBA in April-June and I really wanted to see what the pels team coulda done in the playoffs that yr.

The size they had was unmatched by anyone else in the league really add to the fact that both guys were mobile bigs who-at the time might of been the 2 best guys at their positions. Just didn't work out 4 em.

Totally agree. I completely get why they did the deal and it was a good gamble. Was just pointing out it's never a guarantee these things work out. Look at Boston that Kyrie deal looked like a slam dunk but sure looks like it will end up being a bust for the Celtics.

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[DirtyDez]

Listening to Gambo

He is adamant the 6th pick won’t be traded as he is a non shooter. They want a combo guard who can knock down shots. Good defender and passer.

But Gambo said “he doesn’t see it”

So I think it’s a lot of opinion

He said the they’d trade the Milwaukee or a future pick with I agree with. I think the Suns would trade a protected 1st but I don’t see New Orleans biting on that.

[darmani]

I wonder what everyone's opinion about Lonzo would be, if instead of getting drafted at #2 by the Lakers, he was drafted at #27 and spent the last 2 seasons in Charlotte or Indiana.

[Saberestar]

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[WeekapaugGroove]

Listening to Gambo

He is adamant the 6th pick won’t be traded as he is a non shooter. They want a combo guard who can knock down shots. Good defender and passer.

But Gambo said “he doesn’t see it”

So I think it’s a lot of opinion

He said the they’d trade the Milwaukee or a future pick with I agree with. I think the Suns would trade a protected 1st but I don’t see New Orleans biting on that.

Would depend on the protection. In general I'd much rather part with 6 in this draft than any lotto pick in the future. I honestly think this draft is so weak 6 is worth about 16 in a normal to good draft.

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[BobbieL]

Listening to Gambo

He is adamant the 6th pick won’t be traded as he is a non shooter. They want a combo guard who can knock down shots. Good defender and passer.

But Gambo said “he doesn’t see it”

So I think it’s a lot of opinion

He said the they’d trade the Milwaukee or a future pick with I agree with. I think the Suns would trade a protected 1st but I don’t see New Orleans biting on that.

Would depend on the protection. In general I'd much rather part with 6 in this draft than any lotto pick in the future. I honestly think this draft is so weak 6 is worth about 16 in a normal to good draft.

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Right!!! I want this trade to go through now more than before

[carey]

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That's fine. #6 is an overpay for Spencer, but I keep seeing names taken off the list without anyone being put on it. We can't put all our eggs in the Jrue basket. While I think he's definitely gettable for the right price they definitely love him here and wouldn't mind keeping him to lead their team of young guys.

[WeekapaugGroove]

He said the they’d trade the Milwaukee or a future pick with I agree with. I think the Suns would trade a protected 1st but I don’t see New Orleans biting on that.

Would depend on the protection. In general I'd much rather part with 6 in this draft than any lotto pick in the future. I honestly think this draft is so weak 6 is worth about 16 in a normal to good draft.

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Right!!! I want this trade to go through now more than before

Was more a general statement than advocating for Ball. I'm lukewarm on him. Not even sure I'd value him more than Coby White TBH.

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[bwoolf2]

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That's fine. #6 is an overpay for Spencer, but I keep seeing names taken off the list without anyone being put on it. We can't put all our eggs in the Jrue basket. While I think he's definitely gettable for the right price they definitely love him here and wouldn't mind keeping him to lead their team of young guys.

I just dont see it as an overpay in this years draft, last year absofreakinlutely, this year, ehhhhh...

[BobbieL]

Would depend on the protection. In general I'd much rather part with 6 in this draft than any lotto pick in the future. I honestly think this draft is so weak 6 is worth about 16 in a normal to good draft.

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Right!!! I want this trade to go through now more than before

Was more a general statement than advocating for Ball. I'm lukewarm on him. Not even sure I'd value him more than Coby White TBH.

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No I understood what you were saying about value.

I think I would take Ball over both White and Garland for the 6

[Saberestar]

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The sky is falling already and it is a just a rumor.

I agree...I am not a fan of White at all. His handle and passing are BAD for a PG.

A lot of turnovers too...great motor but I do not see a high basketball IQ in his game.

[Kerrsed]

This absolutely sucks.

I mean im at a point where i really believe that AD will end up a Laker. Rich Paul is doing everything in his power in order to do so, and what Lebron wants Lebron gets. Ball/Ingram/Kuz for Davis is an absolute outrage. Like i understand thats probably not what the Pelicans end up getting, but that is probably what the Lakers end up giving up (With a 3rd team involved) and thats just peanuts.

And honestly i hate Gambo and dont trust him for s**t, but i do believe that what he is saying is correct. White will be our target in the draft and we will go after a stop gap PG in FA. I can deal with that.....so long as that stop gap PG is PatBev. Look at the numbers Booker put up last year. We would be ecstatic to get a PG that was doing that. 26 points and 7 assists a game....and that was in that f**ked up blender offense that was truly awful. I believe the plan is to go with another combo guard so the ball isnt taken out of Bookers hands all the time, because honestly he does great things with it in his hands. This past season we lacked any firepower from the PG spot, which meant that Booker was guarded more heavily and forced to take more bad shots. Put a competent 3 point shooter/scorer next to him and those things wouldnt be as big of an issue. It would also be a major plus if that said player was also a solid defender, which once again points me towards PatBev.

Now the issue becomes what do we do at PF? Drafting White and adding PatBev would effectively give us 5 PG's under contract. So a few would have to leave via trade. None of them are that good and none of our other pieces would really help that, so its almost like we would have to be forced into also taking back a bad contract.

[kennydorglas]

Rich Paul will get Garland, AD and LeBron playing together.
He's their new GM.

[alamin330]

Clarke would likely be extremely efficient and block some shots, get boards, some steals, etc. When going to the rim he can actually get it in the basket.

How do you know? I’m sure you thought very highly of josh jackson when we drafted him. For suns sake if we draft Clarke I hope you’re right, but he can easily be a bust as well. If he was so great he’d be mentioned as a top 5 or even top 3 player in this weak draft. He can barely crack top 10 in mock drafts. There’s a reason for that.

[kennydorglas]

At least Coby White is an 11 and his 3pt shot is absolutely beautiful.
VERY RAW tho, people here wanting to win now will be depleted if we draft him.

[BobbieL]

This absolutely sucks.

I mean im at a point where i really believe that AD will end up a Laker. Rich Paul is doing everything in his power in order to do so, and what Lebron wants Lebron gets. Ball/Ingram/Kuz for Davis is an absolute outrage. Like i understand thats probably not what the Pelicans end up getting, but that is probably what the Lakers end up giving up (With a 3rd team involved) and thats just peanuts.

And honestly i hate Gambo and dont trust him for s**t, but i do believe that what he is saying is correct. White will be our target in the draft and we will go after a stop gap PG in FA. I can deal with that.....so long as that stop gap PG is PatBev. Look at the numbers Booker put up last year. We would be ecstatic to get a PG that was doing that. 26 points and 7 assists a game....and that was in that f**ked up blender offense that was truly awful. I believe the plan is to go with another combo guard so the ball isnt taken out of Bookers hands all the time, because honestly he does great things with it in his hands. This past season we lacked any firepower from the PG spot, which meant that Booker was guarded more heavily and forced to take more bad shots. Put a competent 3 point shooter/scorer next to him and those things wouldnt be as big of an issue. It would also be a major plus if that said player was also a solid defender, which once again points me towards PatBev.

Now the issue becomes what do we do at PF? Drafting White and adding PatBev would effectively give us 5 PG's under contract. So a few would have to leave via trade. None of them are that good and none of our other pieces would really help that, so its almost like we would have to be forced into also taking back a bad contract.

If the pick is used at 6 and you sign Pat Beverly - Warren, Jackson &/or Johnson are gone - thats the only way to get a 4.

I agree it would be ideal to have another shooter next to Booker. As that would take the load off of him. But maybe getting Ayton used in an offense better would help too open things up for Booker.

[bwgood77]

How do you know? I’m sure you thought very highly of josh jackson when we drafted him. For suns sake if we draft Clarke I hope you’re right, but he can easily be a bust as well. If he was so great he’d be mentioned as a top 5 or even top 3 player in this weak draft. He can barely crack top 10 in mock drafts. There’s a reason for that.

A lot of teams draft young guys for upside and not NBA ready guys. He is 2-5 or so on a lot of big boards. Now he could be a bust like Josh but given his historically great college production, likely not. I think he goes a lot higher than many mocks anticipate and wouldn't be surprised if some teams that like him in the top 10 or 12 are not telling the mock guys that they rate him highly (even if they do).

[Kerrsed]

This absolutely sucks.

I mean im at a point where i really believe that AD will end up a Laker. Rich Paul is doing everything in his power in order to do so, and what Lebron wants Lebron gets. Ball/Ingram/Kuz for Davis is an absolute outrage. Like i understand thats probably not what the Pelicans end up getting, but that is probably what the Lakers end up giving up (With a 3rd team involved) and thats just peanuts.

And honestly i hate Gambo and dont trust him for s**t, but i do believe that what he is saying is correct. White will be our target in the draft and we will go after a stop gap PG in FA. I can deal with that.....so long as that stop gap PG is PatBev. Look at the numbers Booker put up last year. We would be ecstatic to get a PG that was doing that. 26 points and 7 assists a game....and that was in that f**ked up blender offense that was truly awful. I believe the plan is to go with another combo guard so the ball isnt taken out of Bookers hands all the time, because honestly he does great things with it in his hands. This past season we lacked any firepower from the PG spot, which meant that Booker was guarded more heavily and forced to take more bad shots. Put a competent 3 point shooter/scorer next to him and those things wouldnt be as big of an issue. It would also be a major plus if that said player was also a solid defender, which once again points me towards PatBev.

Now the issue becomes what do we do at PF? Drafting White and adding PatBev would effectively give us 5 PG's under contract. So a few would have to leave via trade. None of them are that good and none of our other pieces would really help that, so its almost like we would have to be forced into also taking back a bad contract.

If the pick is used at 6 and you sign Pat Beverly - Warren, Jackson &/or Johnson are gone - thats the only way to get a 4.

I agree it would be ideal to have another shooter next to Booker. As that would take the load off of him. But maybe getting Ayton used in an offense better would help too open things up for Booker.

Jackson has links to Detroit doesnt he? I'd be ready to throw Warren/Johnson/Jackson/Melton/Bucks 1st and a future 1st to Detroit for Griffin/Maker.

PatBev/White/Okobo
Booker/?????
Oubre/Bridges
Griffin/Bender
Ayton/Maker

[alamin330]

Coby White is the next great UNC point guard NBA bust

[Revived]

At least Coby White is an 11 and his 3pt shot is absolutely beautiful.
VERY RAW tho, people here wanting to win now will be depleted if we draft him.

I don’t think many people here want them to “win now”. They want them to “stop being awful now”.