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Post#321 » by starbosa10 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:40 pm

Crives wrote:Anyone have Sam vecenies latest mock

Has us picking sharife Cooper at 29. Think it was last updated Wednesday
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Post#322 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:55 pm

starbosa10 wrote:
Crives wrote:Anyone have Sam vecenies latest mock

Has us picking sharife Cooper at 29. Think it was last updated Wednesday


If he makes it past New York whose been eyeing him pretty hard it seems ( Probably because they're coming to the realization that they won't be stealing him away from us)!! :lol:

https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/report-knicks-could-be-targeting-point-guard-sharife-cooper-in-nba-draft/

And Indiana of course too.
He'd be another really solid consideration with his elite ballhandling and playmaking ability. And I think he's actually an ideal candidate to apprentice under Paul too :D
He said in an interview that he believes he can emulate Chris Paul's style of play with his passing too.
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Re: 2021 Draft 

Post#323 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:20 pm

Saberestar wrote:I did a quick research and I could not find any prospect saying that he did a workout for the Suns.

Any info about that? Some name?


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Here's a list of the scheduled prospects that the Suns are bringing in for pre draft workouts. I believe that this should give us an idea of what they're looking for in the draft perhaps??

https://www.google.com/amp/s/hoopshype.com/lists/nba-draft-workouts/amp/

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Neemias Queta
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.peachtreehoops.com/platform/amp/2019/5/14/18622432/neemias-queta-nba-draft-scouting-report-profile-2019-atlanta-hawks-utah-state
DATE- July 8
POSITION- C
Utah St.
AMD- 59

Aaron Wiggins
https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/college/maryland/Article/Aaron-Wiggins-NBA-Draft-Combine-Terps-Mark-Turgeon-166930288/Amp/
DATE- N/A
POSITION- SG
Maryland
AMD- 80

Anthony Tarke
https://krod.com/nba-prospect-anthony-tarke-is-turning-heads-as-a-two-way-guard/
DATE- July 6
POSITION- SG
Coppin State
AMD- Not ranked

Jayvon Graves
https://hoopsprospects.com/2021/05/13/jayvon-graves-scouting-report-interview-highlights/
DATE- July 6
POSITION- PG
Buffalo
AMD- Not ranked

Jose Alvarado
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ridiculousupside.com/platform/amp/2021/5/25/22453928/breaking-down-the-defensive-excellence-of-jose-alvarado-georgia-tech-point-guard-nba-draft
DATE- N/A
POSITION- PG
Georgia Tech
AMD- Not ranked

Matt Mitchell
https://www.google.com/amp/s/hoopshype.com/lists/nba-draft-matt-mitchell-san-diego-state-sdsu/amp/
DATE- N/A
POSITION- SF
San Diego State
AMD- Not ranked

Oscar Da Silva
https://www.thestepien.com/oscar-dasilva/
DATE- N/A
POSITION- PF
STANFORD
AMD- Not ranked

Tyson Etienne
https://www.nbascoutinglive.com/tyson-etienne-scouting-report/
DATE- JULY 6TH
POSITION- PG
WICHITA STATE
AMD- Not ranked

Also from this article: ( during the combine)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/evansidery/2021/06/30/four-2021-nba-draft-prospects-who-best-fit-the-phoenix-suns-identity/amp/

Jaden Springer,
Ball Handler, Tennessee

According to Springer himself during NBA Draft Combine media availability, the Suns interviewed the 18-year-old

Trey Murphy III,
Wing, Virginia

Murphy also mentioned during the NBA Draft Combine he spoke with Phoenix,


Not sure on Hyland or Dosunma though! Neemias Queta would be awesome for our backup 5 needs in a Nerlens Noel role. Also Trey Murphy truly is a slightly bigger version of Cam Johnson, But with better perimeter defense and longer wingspan ( actually around 7'2 I believe).


This is all I've found currently. It seems that the suns are being a bit cryptic with their draft intentions at this point. But in speculation, The range/ projection for these prospects ( late 2nd- undrafted) somewhat indicate that they'll either be looking to acquire a mid to late 2nd via trade, Or look to the undrafted talent pool for value cost controlled depth? :dontknow:
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Re: 2021 Draft 

Post#324 » by sunsbg » Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:38 pm

The only thing above list confirms, Suns will draft a late 2nd rounder with the 29th pick. Nothing we don't know already though. :)
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Post#325 » by RunDogGun » Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:40 pm

I say we draft Queta, and buy one of OKC's picks to get a PG, or trade a future second rounder for one of theirs in this year. Draft Preston or Nix(I don't like his 3pt% at all), and then see who is there in FA to fill out the roster.
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Post#326 » by pj0tr » Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:42 pm

Josh Christopher, Tre Mann, Jared Butler, Sharife Cooper, Jaden Springer (theres talk of Springer falling) would all be excellent picks IMO.

My preference would be Christopher and Butler, but any of those guys would be good additions.
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Post#327 » by RunDogGun » Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:52 pm

sunsbg wrote:The only thing above list confirms, Suns will draft a late 2nd rounder with the 29th pick. Nothing we don't know already though. :)

We have been checking out guys that are in our range, and guys that project to not make the top 60 picks, because we don't have a second rounder as of yet.
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Post#328 » by cberry78 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:08 pm

RunDogGun wrote:I say we draft Queta, and buy one of OKC's picks to get a PG, or trade a future second rounder for one of theirs in this year. Draft Preston or Nix(I don't like his 3pt% at all), and then see who is there in FA to fill out the roster.

Worst case scenario with Nix's shooting is that it's broken and has to be completely reworked, and with 2+ years as CP3's backup, even 3rd PG behind CamP, that'd be more than enough time to rebuild his shot (see Fultz, Markelle).
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Re: 2021 Draft 

Post#329 » by RunDogGun » Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:21 pm

cberry78 wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:I say we draft Queta, and buy one of OKC's picks to get a PG, or trade a future second rounder for one of theirs in this year. Draft Preston or Nix(I don't like his 3pt% at all), and then see who is there in FA to fill out the roster.

Worst case scenario with Nix's shooting is that it's broken and has to be completely reworked, and with 2+ years as CP3's backup, even 3rd PG behind CamP, that'd be more than enough time to rebuild his shot (see Fultz, Markelle).

I like his other skills, I just was unsure if Jones would take a flier on a guard that shot 19% from three.
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Post#330 » by Saberestar » Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:50 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
sunsbg wrote:The only thing above list confirms, Suns will draft a late 2nd rounder with the 29th pick. Nothing we don't know already though. :)

We have been checking out guys that are in our range, and guys that project to not make the top 60 picks, because we don't have a second rounder as of yet.

We probably want an undrafted guy to fill our second two-way contract.
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Post#331 » by cberry78 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:00 pm

RunDogGun wrote:
cberry78 wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:I say we draft Queta, and buy one of OKC's picks to get a PG, or trade a future second rounder for one of theirs in this year. Draft Preston or Nix(I don't like his 3pt% at all), and then see who is there in FA to fill out the roster.

Worst case scenario with Nix's shooting is that it's broken and has to be completely reworked, and with 2+ years as CP3's backup, even 3rd PG behind CamP, that'd be more than enough time to rebuild his shot (see Fultz, Markelle).

I like his other skills, I just was unsure if Jones would take a flier on a guard that shot 19% from three.

Yeah his shooting scares me as well, but if you can't improve your shooting when you spend everyday in practice with shooters like CP3, Book, and CamJ, with James Johnson in your front office, there's a bigger issue than the shooting at play - and that's the kind of player that definitely won't get drafted by the Suns.
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Post#332 » by bwgood77 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:40 pm

Crives wrote:Anyone have Sam vecenies latest mock


Yes, I posted who he had for us somewhere...his write up...either in this or the GoK thread..within last few days.
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Post#333 » by darealjuice » Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:53 pm

Excited to see this draft in action. I really like the top 10 or so guys. Cade has such a great skill set for his size, just curious how he stacks up athletically with other NBA stars and if he can clean up the turnovers. Green has Lavine-like quickness and athleticism with a solid handle and stroke to go with it. Mobley is a defensive monster and stat stuffer with some offensive skills, will need to fill out a lot at the next level though. Suggs is really exciting in transition and showed really good flashes, just not sure I have him in the Morant/Young tier. Mixed feelings on Barnes and Kuminga with them fitting more of the the jack of all trade, poor shooter, athletic defensive wing mold, but obviously the upside must be there. Bouknight and Moody are both interesting scoring guards with some length and wiggle, and Wagner looks like he'll be a really good utility player at the next level, especially if his jump shot translates. Sengun's success in Europe at his age makes him interesting, curious to see how his size and play style translate to the NBA though. Giddey's interesting for similar reasons in Australia, but more curious about his jump shot.

Feels like it flattens out a bit from there to around 30-35. I don't see a significant amount of separation between Davion Mitchell projected to go in the lottery and Ayo Dosunmu projected late first/early second. Same with Kai Jones and Day'Ron Sharpe. Obviously not everyone will be successful, but that's expected with some needing more seasoning than others and fit impacting their ability to contribute. There are a few guys I'm more interested in and others I'm not though. It'll be interesting to see who James Jones goes with, assuming we keep the pick.
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Post#334 » by Barkley6 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:26 pm

A late 2nd round, possibly undrafted guy that I really like is David Duke, a junior out of Providence. He's a 6'5'' 205lb, combo guard with a 6'8'' wingspan, that shot 39% from 3 and averaged 6 rebounds and nearly 5 assists per game last year. His biggest knock is that his 2 point percentage is pretty awful, but I wonder how much of that is because he was one of the only good players on a bad team (Only 2 players on Providence averaged double figure scoring last season), and so had to take a lot of difficult, contested looks, because his 3 point percentage tells you he can certainly shoot the ball.
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Post#335 » by BobbieL » Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:29 pm

darealjuice wrote:Excited to see this draft in action. I really like the top 10 or so guys. Cade has such a great skill set for his size, just curious how he stacks up athletically with other NBA stars and if he can clean up the turnovers. Green has Lavine-like quickness and athleticism with a solid handle and stroke to go with it. Mobley is a defensive monster and stat stuffer with some offensive skills, will need to fill out a lot at the next level though. Suggs is really exciting in transition and showed really good flashes, just not sure I have him in the Morant/Young tier. Mixed feelings on Barnes and Kuminga with them fitting more of the the jack of all trade, poor shooter, athletic defensive wing mold, but obviously the upside must be there. Bouknight and Moody are both interesting scoring guards with some length and wiggle, and Wagner looks like he'll be a really good utility player at the next level, especially if his jump shot translates. Sengun's success in Europe at his age makes him interesting, curious to see how his size and play style translate to the NBA though. Giddey's interesting for similar reasons in Australia, but more curious about his jump shot.

Feels like it flattens out a bit from there to around 30-35. I don't see a significant amount of separation between Davion Mitchell projected to go in the lottery and Ayo Dosunmu projected late first/early second. Same with Kai Jones and Day'Ron Sharpe. Obviously not everyone will be successful, but that's expected with some needing more seasoning than others and fit impacting their ability to contribute. There are a few guys I'm more interested in and others I'm not though. It'll be interesting to see who James Jones goes with, assuming we keep the pick.


I have to be honest as a Suns fan - I am pretty happy that I will probably not have a clue who they draft and am just happy they are drafting 29!
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Re: 2021 Draft 

Post#336 » by RunDogGun » Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:03 am

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RunDogGun wrote:
sunsbg wrote:The only thing above list confirms, Suns will draft a late 2nd rounder with the 29th pick. Nothing we don't know already though. :)

We have been checking out guys that are in our range, and guys that project to not make the top 60 picks, because we don't have a second rounder as of yet.

We probably want an undrafted guy to fill our second two-way contract.

It is a smart move really. Check out guys that project late or just out of the draft, and grab a few for training camp, with non guarantees. Could find a diamond in the rough.
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Post#337 » by Ghost of Kleine » Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:22 am

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Post#338 » by Ghost of Kleine » Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:58 am

https://franchisesports.co.uk/sleepers-2021-nba-draft/

The five most underrated prospects in the 2021 NBA Draft

July 25, 2021 Jeremy Mallari


5-  Isaiah Todd,
G-League Ignite

2020-2021 stats: 12.3 ppg/4.9 rpg

Isaiah Todd is one of the best stretch bigs in the 2021 NBA Draft. At 6’10”, he is deadly at pick and pop situations, especially in the midrange. He can shoot from beyond the arc as well as he shot 36%. As you can see, Todd’s shooting and offensive versatility allow him to fit into any system. The numbers may not blow teams away but his effectiveness as a face-up threat can’t be denied. If not overshadowed by his Ignite teammates, Jalen Green and Jonathan Kuminga, he is easily a first-round talent.

Projected to be a second-rounder, teams who need a true stretch big man can draft him without hesitation.


4- Ayo Dosunma.
 Illinois

2020-2021 stats: 20.1 ppg/6.3 rpg/5.3 apg

At 6’5″, Ayo Dosunmu is one of the best NBA draft prospects. He can do everything and fill the stat sheet on any given night.

Ayo is a combo guard who can score in a variety of ways and guard multiple positions. His size allows him to be deadly in the transition with his hesitation moves and quick first step. Although it still needs improvement, he can also hit the three-ball as needed.

Ayo led Illinois as the second seed in the Big Ten and was named the Tournament MVP. Projected to be a late first-rounder, teams who need an NBA-ready versatile guard can draft him.

3- Neemias Queta.
Utah State

2020-2021 stats: 14.9 ppg/10.1 rpg/3.3 bpg

Neemias Queta is a 7’0″ prospect out of Utah State. What makes him special is his defensive impact and mobility for someone his size.

His 3.3 blocks and 1.1 steals per game earned him two-time MWC DPOY award. Queta was highly impactful as a rim protector and rebounder.

Projected to be a second-rounder, teams who need rim protection with crazy upside can draft him. Queta can be one of the best second round draft picks of all-time.

2- JT Thor
Auburn

2020-2021 stats: 9.4 ppg/5.0 rpg/1.4 bpg

JT Thor is one of the unique talents in the 2021 NBA Draft. At 6’9″ with a 7’4″ wingspan, he can defend multiple positions and protect the rim.

In Auburn, he showed flashes of his offensive game. Although not yet polished, Thor can dribble and shoot from anywhere on the court given his size.

Projected to be a late first-rounder or an early second-rounder, Thor can be one of the best steals in this draft class. He’s still far from a finished product but teams can roll the dice and draft him to develop his game. After all, he’s still just 18 years old.




1- Miles McBride.
West Virginia

2020-2021 stats: 15.9 ppg/3.9 rpg/4.8 apg

Miles “Deuce” McBride is one of the best two-way combo guards in the upcoming draft class.

At 6’2″, he is a good shot-creator who loves to pull up from the midrange. Over the years, he made significant improvements with his playmaking and shooting ability. But what makes him special is his Marcus Smart-like defense. His defensive impact and grittiness are well-documented as he likes to lock opposing guards.

McBride is projected to be a late-first rounder or early second-rounder. Teams who want his scoring potential and defense may want to take snag him. After all, NBA Teams love pesky defenders who are willing to throw their bodies on the line. He’s one of the best underrated NBA draft prospects in this class.
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Post#339 » by nevetsov » Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:28 pm

Is there a modern day Dragic type that we could draft-and-stash with the #29? Surely there's gotta be a promising young Euro PG prospect somewhere turning heads.
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Post#340 » by Ghost of Kleine » Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:57 pm

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Jumbo Shot Creator: Cade Cunningham.

Dynamic Scorer: Jalen Green.

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