2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation

[bwgood77]

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riiiiip

What do you mean? We knew this trade was going down and have been discussing trading for him from SA. There was talk that we may be the 3rd team if they added a 3rd one since it hadn't been executed, but now it has. This really has no impact on a potential trade between us and SA for Young.

[RunDogGun]

The thing about projecting minutes is you're almost never fully healthy so the logjams tend to work themselves out.

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True, plus Monty plays guys he likes, sometimes at the detriment of the team as a whole.

I don't think we have log jams really. I don't think Stix is ready to take minutes from Crowder or Johnson at the four. I don't think Nader should take minutes from Bridges or Johnson at the three. Hopefully we all agree that both Payne and Johnson should get more minutes, right? I just don't see a big jump going from Carter, Galloway, Moore, to our bench guys that took those spots, other than Payton being a much better passer than all three combined, while being a worse shooter than all three.

How do you see the minutes playing out, after we give some load management for Booker and CP3 early on? McGee is strictly a center right? You don't see him playing the four, and very limited minutes if any next to Ayton, right?

[RunDogGun]

I wouldn't play Payne at the 2 if I didn't have to, I would also reduce CP3s minutes by quite a bit and Bookers as well at least 1st half of the season they are on the shortest break ever and played a ton of basketball with a full 82 game schedule ahead, actually think having a reliable scorer to come in for book last year really hurt the team.

Also if Cam Johnson eats Craig's minutes that's a plus he is easily the better player and taller, needs to add a little weight but he will. There is a reason he is going to get paid and Craig is bouncing around the league hoping to continue the career. Nice player but not on Johnsons level.

That sounds like you didn't like the CP3/Payne pairing? They were two of our best three point shooters last season. Payne ended being our best three point shooter.

I could see early on load management for the two, if both wanted it. But if a shoulder injury, wrist injury, and Covid wasn't stopping Paul from playing minutes and/or wanting to play minutes, I just don't know what will.

I agree about Johnson, but I just don't know what Monty thinks on the subject, since he didn't even give Johnson the minutes he got in the regular season, even though Johnson played his best basketball in the playoffs, and our best three point shooter. And I could understand if Johnson played poorly on defense, but he got better there too.

[Phnxsports]

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riiiiip

What do you mean? We knew this trade was going down and have been discussing trading for him from SA. There was talk that we may be the 3rd team if they added a 3rd one since it hadn't been executed, but now it has. This really has no impact on a potential trade between us and SA for Young.

Except now Young can't be traded again for 60 days if Suns intend on a 2 for 1 no?

[RunDogGun]

Except now Young can't be traded again for 60 days if Suns intend on a 2 for 1 no?

Ugh, I think you are right, he can't be included on a multiple player deal for a period of time. But a buy out still might happen.

[bwoolf2]

I wouldn't play Payne at the 2 if I didn't have to, I would also reduce CP3s minutes by quite a bit and Bookers as well at least 1st half of the season they are on the shortest break ever and played a ton of basketball with a full 82 game schedule ahead, actually think having a reliable scorer to come in for book last year really hurt the team.

Also if Cam Johnson eats Craig's minutes that's a plus he is easily the better player and taller, needs to add a little weight but he will. There is a reason he is going to get paid and Craig is bouncing around the league hoping to continue the career. Nice player but not on Johnsons level.

That sounds like you didn't like the CP3/Payne pairing? They were two of our best three point shooters last season. Payne ended being our best three point shooter.

I could see early on load management for the two, if both wanted it. But if a shoulder injury, wrist injury, and Covid wasn't stopping Paul from playing minutes and/or wanting to play minutes, I just don't know what will.

I agree about Johnson, but I just don't know what Monty thinks on the subject, since he didn't even give Johnson the minutes he got in the regular season, even though Johnson played his best basketball in the playoffs, and our best three point shooter. And I could understand if Johnson played poorly on defense, but he got better there too.

CP3 is also self aware enough to know that if he wants to be at 100 percent at playoff time he can't lig those type of minutes at 36. Sometimes management has to step and and do what Is right for the player despite what they want to do. And Payne is better with the ball I. His hands he wasn't awful at the 2 but he wasn't great and him and cp3 is a tiny backcourt, Payne and Shamet have good size much more preferable

[bwgood77]

riiiiip

What do you mean? We knew this trade was going down and have been discussing trading for him from SA. There was talk that we may be the 3rd team if they added a 3rd one since it hadn't been executed, but now it has. This really has no impact on a potential trade between us and SA for Young.

Except now Young can't be traded again for 60 days if Suns intend on a 2 for 1 no?

I don't know, but I would think he could since people have been discussing it non stop and I hadn't heard that. This trade of DeRozan going to the Bulls for Young, Aminu, a first and two seconds was agreed on a week ago or more...so people knew that was happening...it just finally officially got approved by the NBA front office.

[Barkley6]

riiiiip

What do you mean? We knew this trade was going down and have been discussing trading for him from SA. There was talk that we may be the 3rd team if they added a 3rd one since it hadn't been executed, but now it has. This really has no impact on a potential trade between us and SA for Young.

Except now Young can't be traded again for 60 days if Suns intend on a 2 for 1 no?

Young can't be traded with anyone, but multiple players can be traded to acquire Young based on this.

https://www.hoopsaddict.com/nba-trade-rules-explained/#Can_an_NBA_Team_Trade_a_Player_They_Just_Traded_For

[bwgood77]

CP3 is also self aware enough to know that if he wants to be at 100 percent at playoff time he can't lig those type of minutes at 36. Sometimes management has to step and and do what Is right for the player despite what they want to do. And Payne is better with the ball I. His hands he wasn't awful at the 2 but he wasn't great and him and cp3 is a tiny backcourt, Payne and Shamet have good size much more preferable

We were also much better when one of Booker or CP3 were on the court at all times, and it was almost always with Payne. I think it works fine, but Shamet will get a pretty good number of minutes I'm assuming. He's replacing guys who were fringe end of rotation guys or out of rotations before coming here, and he's played an avg of over 24 minutes a game for 3 contenders in his first 3 years in the NBA, which is pretty impressive, including almost 70 starts in the regular season and 10 in the playoffs (out of 31 total playoff games played), so he is like a more seasoned playoff experienced guy than most of our team.

As far as CP3 rest I think it will be up to him and it wouldn't surprise me if he wants to play quite a bit. It might be better to reduce his minutes, particularly if a Payne/Shamet lineup worked well together, and I'm guessing we will have no problem scoring with them and CamJ off the bench. And the most important part of defense is the backline, where JaVale is very good. Bridges usually plays some with those guys too. But the rest of the guys all hustle.

[bwgood77]

What do you mean? We knew this trade was going down and have been discussing trading for him from SA. There was talk that we may be the 3rd team if they added a 3rd one since it hadn't been executed, but now it has. This really has no impact on a potential trade between us and SA for Young.

Except now Young can't be traded again for 60 days if Suns intend on a 2 for 1 no?

Young can't be traded with anyone, but multiple players can be traded to acquire Young based on this.

https://www.hoopsaddict.com/nba-trade-rules-explained/#Can_an_NBA_Team_Trade_a_Player_They_Just_Traded_For

In that 3rd paragraph in that section it says it has to be a straight 1 on 1 trade and it cannot involve 3 or more players.

[WeekapaugGroove]

The thing about projecting minutes is you're almost never fully healthy so the logjams tend to work themselves out.

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True, plus Monty plays guys he likes, sometimes at the detriment of the team as a whole.

I don't think we have log jams really. I don't think Stix is ready to take minutes from Crowder or Johnson at the four. I don't think Nader should take minutes from Bridges or Johnson at the three. Hopefully we all agree that both Payne and Johnson should get more minutes, right? I just don't see a big jump going from Carter, Galloway, Moore, to our bench guys that took those spots, other than Payton being a much better passer than all three combined, while being a worse shooter than all three.

How do you see the minutes playing out, after we give some load management for Booker and CP3 early on? McGee is strictly a center right? You don't see him playing the four, and very limited minutes if any next to Ayton, right?

I'd say you can pencil 9 in for sure in the starting 5 plus, Payne, Shamet, Johnson, McGee. Monty could go 10 early in the year and allow guys like Nader and Stix to earn some run. They will need to be a little careful with minutes early in the year with the short off-season. No reason to run your team into the ground by March.

I sure as hell hope McGee and Ayton won't share the floor other than spot minutes against some crazy lineups.

I kind of doubt we see much Payne and Paul together, especially early in the season. They didn't start doing that until very late last year. Also Paul played about 31 mins a night last year and I could see that reduced a little this season so that gives Payne a little more run.

Shamet will primarily back up booker but booker will probably play a little at the 3 too.

Lastly I'm all for Cam Johnson playing as much as possible. Huge fan of his game.

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[nevetsov]

I'd look more into flipping Dario for Satoransky.

Sato was a throw-in with the Lonzo to Chicago deal - one year remaining at $10m. Taking on this deal clears Dario's final year of $9m from our books when Ayton and Mikal's extensions kick in. This aligns to our strategy of collecting one year deals this off season.

Dario is great but the likelihood is he will not return for meaningful minutes this year. That means we're essentially getting 82 games out of him next year for $17m. Nawlins has the depth of youth and cheap contracts for this not to be a problem.

New Orleans recently traded out of Adams' long term deal for Jonas V, a big with a more rounded offensive game (including some range) to pair with Zion who can't shoot. Jonas is expiring, so having Saric return next season with a similar skillset acts as a contingency. Perhaps Hayes is ready next season to take over from Val and Saric slots in as the backup.

For us, Sato cam be that 3rd string backup across the wing positions and even play some point in spurts. While he may not have Saric's worth, he's a healthy body that fills a role this season while giving us the financial flexibility next season.

Paul, Payne, Payton
Booker, Shamet, Satoransky
Bridges, Nader, Satoransky
Crowder, Johnson, Smith
Ayton, McGee, Kaminsky

While leaving us an open roster spot in case on a buyout through the season.

[BobbieL]

What do you mean? We knew this trade was going down and have been discussing trading for him from SA. There was talk that we may be the 3rd team if they added a 3rd one since it hadn't been executed, but now it has. This really has no impact on a potential trade between us and SA for Young.

Except now Young can't be traded again for 60 days if Suns intend on a 2 for 1 no?

I don't know, but I would think he could since people have been discussing it non stop and I hadn't heard that. This trade of DeRozan going to the Bulls for Young, Aminu, a first and two seconds was agreed on a week ago or more...so people knew that was happening...it just finally officially got approved by the NBA front office.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it comes out the Suns talked trade with the Spurs for Young

But I am good nothing was done. Don’t overpay for a guy probably getting bought out

[Puff]

You completely missed the point go back and look at teams that have ever won a championship and tell me which teams won those championships with their best players under the age of 25. And at 24 Booker is on track to be a top 5 top 10 player in this league when he hits his prime.

Nadar and Shamet and Craig for that matter play different positions so that's apple's and oranges, and I liked Craig but he was out matched size wise we played him more out of necessity he didn't even get on the floor for the Bucks, I don't see him as a game changer for this team Mcgee will more than make up for the minutes we were forced to ay Craig or at least should

So your point is because our team is young, that means we will have a better chance, while ignoring all the in juries of other teams that hindered their chances of getting to the finals? Sorry, just can't logically make that jump.

Again, I don't see another year where every good team in the west had injuries to top players, like they did this last year. And the odds would say there is just a good chance the injury bug bites us. If all teams are at full strength, we will have a tough time getting to the finals again, at least this season with our current starting line up and bench.

We play multiple wing position, so technically Nader, Shamet, and Craig all have similar roles of spot minutes using their strengths. And screens are the name of the game, so you need a guy in those roles, who can switch and guard multiple positions, and then take spot up threes or crash the boards. Craig did that job well. Came in, played tough D, hit shots.

I don't know why we didn't play Craig more in the Bucks series. Maybe when he hurt his knee it affected his game more than we knew. I think he was better defensively than others we played. And I thought he did a good job of switching from Giannis to Middleton. I just don't think either Nader or Shamet will be able to make that switch defensively. Moreover, Craig really went after almost every rebound. Nader has that hustle, but just not as successful as Craig.

McGee is limited and I just don't see him getting minutes with Ayton, so I don't see McGee as a replacement for Craig in any way shape or form. But yes, I would rather have McGee playing center than Craig. But I would take Craig at sf/pf over McGee, especially with this offense. Lastly, McGee isn't a Sun yet.

Craig played about 10 minutes a game you don't see Mcgee getting that many minutes? And I appreciate Craig's hustle but we played him at pf and center and there is no way he is a better rebounder or interior defender than Mcgee, permiter d and shooting sure but I actually think Nadar is a better shooter and perimeter defender.

Anyways we will agree to disagree on most things but neither of us really knows **** so we will see how it all plays out until then we are left with our opinions.

Yep - The loss of Craig is being exaggerated. He was a decent player but not the 2nd coming. We have a lot of time to come up with a better solution.

[lilfishi22]

I see Thad as a guy that would become more and more available as the trade deadline looms. Right now, I think his value is relatively low in the sense that teams aren't quite ready to go "all in" before the season begins to add a Thad Young since who knows how the season will play out. The Spurs are going to compete this season as they always do under Pop but I think it will become clear that they are more of a play-in team than they are a solid playoff team. I don't really know what the San Antonio's plans are because they've moved on from all of their players that really helped them stay competitive like Mills, Kawhi and now Derozan. They still have guys like Murray who's still young and still has good potential but I don't think anyone sees him coming an elite level guard.

So where does the Spurs go? I think most people would suggest they go into a rebuild and that's sensible but with Pop still around, that's a tough proposition. The way I see it, as the season rolls on and as the Spurs look less and less like a competitive team, there'll be better and better offers from teams leading up to the deadline who want to make that playoff/championship push and will be more willing to part ways with better assets to get it done. But again, the Spurs will also have pressure of their own to turn Thad into a future assets before he could walk in the offseason.

tldr; Thad won't be traded until closer to the trade deadline and I think he's a pro's pro so he's not going to pout on the sideline nor ask for a buy-out.

[darealjuice]

I see Thad as a guy that would become more and more available as the trade deadline looms. Right now, I think his value is relatively low in the sense that teams aren't quite ready to go "all in" before the season begins to add a Thad Young since who knows how the season will play out. The Spurs are going to compete this season as they always do under Pop but I think it will become clear that they are more of a play-in team than they are a solid playoff team. I don't really know what the San Antonio's plans are because they've moved on from all of their players that really helped them stay competitive like Mills, Kawhi and now Derozan. They still have guys like Murray who's still young and still has good potential but I don't think anyone sees him coming an elite level guard.

So where does the Spurs go? I think most people would suggest they go into a rebuild and that's sensible but with Pop still around, that's a tough proposition. The way I see it, as the season rolls on and as the Spurs look less and less like a competitive team, there'll be better and better offers from teams leading up to the deadline who want to make that playoff/championship push and will be more willing to part ways with better assets to get it done. But again, the Spurs will also have pressure of their own to turn Thad into a future assets before he could walk in the offseason.

tldr; Thad won't be traded until closer to the trade deadline and I think he's a pro's pro so he's not going to pout on the sideline nor ask for a buy-out.

Trading for a power forward feels like a trade deadline move anyways. We realize our current rotation isn't going to get it done and/or that Smith isn't even ready for end of rotation minutes, so we make moves to fix it. The only times I remember thinking that we need more size at power forward were against Giannis and AD, and I don't think we're getting anyone that fixes that issue. I also think we were missing size at back-up center just as much in those cases.

[bwgood77]

I see Thad as a guy that would become more and more available as the trade deadline looms. Right now, I think his value is relatively low in the sense that teams aren't quite ready to go "all in" before the season begins to add a Thad Young since who knows how the season will play out. The Spurs are going to compete this season as they always do under Pop but I think it will become clear that they are more of a play-in team than they are a solid playoff team. I don't really know what the San Antonio's plans are because they've moved on from all of their players that really helped them stay competitive like Mills, Kawhi and now Derozan. They still have guys like Murray who's still young and still has good potential but I don't think anyone sees him coming an elite level guard.

So where does the Spurs go? I think most people would suggest they go into a rebuild and that's sensible but with Pop still around, that's a tough proposition. The way I see it, as the season rolls on and as the Spurs look less and less like a competitive team, there'll be better and better offers from teams leading up to the deadline who want to make that playoff/championship push and will be more willing to part ways with better assets to get it done. But again, the Spurs will also have pressure of their own to turn Thad into a future assets before he could walk in the offseason.

tldr; Thad won't be traded until closer to the trade deadline and I think he's a pro's pro so he's not going to pout on the sideline nor ask for a buy-out.

I think they will be fairly competitive and on the fringes of the play in tournament. They have Murray, Derrick White, Lonnie Walker, Keldon Johnson (was on olympic squad), Devin Vassell, Jakob Poeltl.

They actually kind of played small ball a a lot starting Murray, Walker, Johnson, DeRozan and Poeltl, but they really didn't have a legit PF unless you count Gay off the bench.

Seems like they would keep Young, though they also got Aminu in the trade. I guess they also have 2nd year PF Luka Samanic.

I think Pop will want to compete with that group which have 1 through 5 years of experience. White and Murray each with 4, Poeltl with 5, Walker and Eubanks (C) with 3, Keldon Johnson and Samanic with 2 years, and Vassell and Tre Jones with 1. They also have Bates-Diop.

So they are somewhat young, but the meat of their rotation has 3-5 with their best player, Johnson with 2...and Vassell is probably ready to play more with Gay and DeRozan leaving.

This is most of the group they played last year and were in the play in game. DeRozan was good but I often saw it pointed out on the GB that every one of the teams he's been on was worse when he was on the floor. I am not sure how much stock to put into that because the counterargument was "so is Pop an idiot?" etc but of course he just traded him for quite a nice haul.

[bwoolf2]

I see Thad as a guy that would become more and more available as the trade deadline looms. Right now, I think his value is relatively low in the sense that teams aren't quite ready to go "all in" before the season begins to add a Thad Young since who knows how the season will play out. The Spurs are going to compete this season as they always do under Pop but I think it will become clear that they are more of a play-in team than they are a solid playoff team. I don't really know what the San Antonio's plans are because they've moved on from all of their players that really helped them stay competitive like Mills, Kawhi and now Derozan. They still have guys like Murray who's still young and still has good potential but I don't think anyone sees him coming an elite level guard.

So where does the Spurs go? I think most people would suggest they go into a rebuild and that's sensible but with Pop still around, that's a tough proposition. The way I see it, as the season rolls on and as the Spurs look less and less like a competitive team, there'll be better and better offers from teams leading up to the deadline who want to make that playoff/championship push and will be more willing to part ways with better assets to get it done. But again, the Spurs will also have pressure of their own to turn Thad into a future assets before he could walk in the offseason.

tldr; Thad won't be traded until closer to the trade deadline and I think he's a pro's pro so he's not going to pout on the sideline nor ask for a buy-out.

I think they will be fairly competitive. They have Murray, Derrick White, Lonnie Walker, Keldon Johnson (was on olympic squad), Devin Vassell, Jakob Poeltl.

They actually kind of played small ball a a lot starting Murray, Walker, Johnson, DeRozan and Poeltl, but they really didn't have a legit PF unless you count Gay off the bench.

Seems like they would keep Young, though they also got Aminu in the trade. I guess they also have 2nd year PF Luka Samanic.

I think Pop will want to compete with that group which have 1 through 5 years of experience. White and Murray each with 4, Poeltl with 5, Walker and Eubanks (C) with 3, Keldon Johnson and Samanic with 2 years, and Vassell and Tre Jones with 1. They also have Bates-Diop.

So they are somewhat young, but the meat of their rotation has 3-5 with their best player, Johnson with 2...and Vassell is probably ready to play more with Gay and DeRozan leaving.

This is most of the group they played last year and were in the play in game. DeRozan was good but I often saw it pointed out on the GB that every one of the teams he's been on was worse when he was on the floor. I am not sure how much stock to put into that because the counterargument was "so is Pop an idiot?" etc but of course he just traded him for quite a nice haul.

That is not a playoff team.

[bwgood77]

I see Thad as a guy that would become more and more available as the trade deadline looms. Right now, I think his value is relatively low in the sense that teams aren't quite ready to go "all in" before the season begins to add a Thad Young since who knows how the season will play out. The Spurs are going to compete this season as they always do under Pop but I think it will become clear that they are more of a play-in team than they are a solid playoff team. I don't really know what the San Antonio's plans are because they've moved on from all of their players that really helped them stay competitive like Mills, Kawhi and now Derozan. They still have guys like Murray who's still young and still has good potential but I don't think anyone sees him coming an elite level guard.

So where does the Spurs go? I think most people would suggest they go into a rebuild and that's sensible but with Pop still around, that's a tough proposition. The way I see it, as the season rolls on and as the Spurs look less and less like a competitive team, there'll be better and better offers from teams leading up to the deadline who want to make that playoff/championship push and will be more willing to part ways with better assets to get it done. But again, the Spurs will also have pressure of their own to turn Thad into a future assets before he could walk in the offseason.

tldr; Thad won't be traded until closer to the trade deadline and I think he's a pro's pro so he's not going to pout on the sideline nor ask for a buy-out.

Trading for a power forward feels like a trade deadline move anyways. We realize our current rotation isn't going to get it done and/or that Smith isn't even ready for end of rotation minutes, so we make moves to fix it. The only times I remember thinking that we need more size at power forward were against Giannis and AD, and I don't think we're getting anyone that fixes that issue. I also think we were missing size at back-up center just as much in those cases.

Yeah, I occasionally see it advocated for, but it always makes sense to play Ayton with more of a stretch 4 who can switch and our lineups with a bigger SF (or what is almost now a standard PF like Crowder) have worked best. If anything Cam needs more minutes and now with Shamet along with Booker playing better D and rebounding more they may often shift Booker to 3 at times as I think you may have mentioned so the rest of our guards still get a lot of time (sans Payton).

[bwgood77]

I see Thad as a guy that would become more and more available as the trade deadline looms. Right now, I think his value is relatively low in the sense that teams aren't quite ready to go "all in" before the season begins to add a Thad Young since who knows how the season will play out. The Spurs are going to compete this season as they always do under Pop but I think it will become clear that they are more of a play-in team than they are a solid playoff team. I don't really know what the San Antonio's plans are because they've moved on from all of their players that really helped them stay competitive like Mills, Kawhi and now Derozan. They still have guys like Murray who's still young and still has good potential but I don't think anyone sees him coming an elite level guard.

So where does the Spurs go? I think most people would suggest they go into a rebuild and that's sensible but with Pop still around, that's a tough proposition. The way I see it, as the season rolls on and as the Spurs look less and less like a competitive team, there'll be better and better offers from teams leading up to the deadline who want to make that playoff/championship push and will be more willing to part ways with better assets to get it done. But again, the Spurs will also have pressure of their own to turn Thad into a future assets before he could walk in the offseason.

tldr; Thad won't be traded until closer to the trade deadline and I think he's a pro's pro so he's not going to pout on the sideline nor ask for a buy-out.

I think they will be fairly competitive. They have Murray, Derrick White, Lonnie Walker, Keldon Johnson (was on olympic squad), Devin Vassell, Jakob Poeltl.

They actually kind of played small ball a a lot starting Murray, Walker, Johnson, DeRozan and Poeltl, but they really didn't have a legit PF unless you count Gay off the bench.

Seems like they would keep Young, though they also got Aminu in the trade. I guess they also have 2nd year PF Luka Samanic.

I think Pop will want to compete with that group which have 1 through 5 years of experience. White and Murray each with 4, Poeltl with 5, Walker and Eubanks (C) with 3, Keldon Johnson and Samanic with 2 years, and Vassell and Tre Jones with 1. They also have Bates-Diop.

So they are somewhat young, but the meat of their rotation has 3-5 with their best player, Johnson with 2...and Vassell is probably ready to play more with Gay and DeRozan leaving.

This is most of the group they played last year and were in the play in game. DeRozan was good but I often saw it pointed out on the GB that every one of the teams he's been on was worse when he was on the floor. I am not sure how much stock to put into that because the counterargument was "so is Pop an idiot?" etc but of course he just traded him for quite a nice haul.

That is not a playoff team.

I agree, but it is a team that will likely compete given half the guys in their rotation are into their 2nd contract and their other half are ready to compete (Keldon Johnson, Lonnie Walker, Vasssell).

And the main hole they have is PF. I mean I don't expect them to tank from day 1 and just give up Thad Young for a guy that won't play and start Jalen or whatever.

Since he is expiring, if they are not within a play in spot, they may buy out or trade at the deadline but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for them to trade him right now barring a great deal coming their way.

And you don't hear any national guys talking about him being shopped. Just Flex and Sidery.

Even Spurs blogs are talking about how much he will help their young core. https://airalamo.com/posts/san-antonio-spurs-adding-thaddeus-young-underrated-move (good read, especially pages 3 and 4).

I also forgot about McDermott..I guess he will probably play some PF too. But I don't think signing McBuckets to that big contract is an indication you are tanking. Doesn't seem like he's a good contract, but he's more of a vet a team would sign to help a team win.