The One And Only Offseason Thread!

[bwgood77]

I'm doubtful we land Lebron, the storyline in Cleveland is just too good. But, I also really don't think McDonough carries this roster into next season.

We have assets and cap space, what are some moves y'all would like to see us make?

Trade for Love. But that doesn't appear possible right now, so I talked about the move I'd consider on the last page in post 317. Otherwise POSSIBLY Deng. I was against him before, but upon further review, he actually looked like he could spread the floor pretty decently until the last two years with Rose out, which probably made things a lot tougher for everyone on the team to get open shots with less focus on Rose. Also could add Deng in a potential mid season trade for Love...the twins, Deng and a pick could maybe get it done. That's better than all the other offers.

[JMac1]

the stretch 4 position is becoming more and more popular by the hour. With the rise of euros and drifting further from the 90s I don't see it being a problem finding a guy 6-10 that can shoot 35% from 3.

You mean like the 7'1 guy we just drafted who shot 43 percent from the college three and made 18-25 at the NBA combine.

I think we have Brown in the summer league squad, but rumor has it, he will play in Europe.

That's what was reported, but he is a guy who could fill Frye's role in a year or two. Everyone is behaving like we have to win the title or become contenders TODAY or all is lost, and they are unable to see what we have on our own team.

People trust for McD shifts as often and quickly as the wind blows.

[PassWarden]

Hmm, I'm not opposed to Deng as a player. But the thought of giving him a multi-year deal that starts around 12m per is nauseating.

[bwgood77]

Hmm, I'm not opposed to Deng as a player. But the thought of giving him a multi-year deal that starts around 12m per is nauseating.

Yeah, I wouldn't really want to do that. I'd rather bring back Tucker at 4 or 5. But Deng is really the only guy that I would consider other than Pierce. If Ariza could play like last year, and would accept like 7, I'd consider him, but I think he wants more and he seems to be more of a contract year player.

[BobbieL]

You mean like the 7'1 guy we just drafted who shot 43 percent from the college three and made 18-25 at the NBA combine.

I think we have Brown in the summer league squad, but rumor has it, he will play in Europe.

That's what was reported, but he is a guy who could fill Frye's role in a year or two. Everyone is behaving like we have to win the title or become contenders TODAY or all is lost, and they are unable to see what we have on our own team.

People trust for McD shifts as often and quickly as the wind blows.

I haven't lost faith in McD
In fact, have more faith that he didn't buckle or succumb and give Frye 32/4 years.

Nothing really has happened this offseason to lose faith. Granted, reading twitter, these forums, news is reported so things are speculated - both good and bad. I get that.

[Qwigglez]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... mire-Trade
Hey look, it's basically what I said, lol. I say we do it if we are unable to land LeBron.

[JMac1]

Delete re post

[BobbieL]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/234165/Knicks-Contact-76ers-On-Amare-Stoudemire-Trade
Hey look, it's basically what I said, lol. I say we do it if we are unable to land LeBron.

Tim Hardaway Jr is the better asset

Shumpert stinks

I don't think Ryan pulls this deal though - but I guess it could happen.

[Jarlaxle0204]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/234165/Knicks-Contact-76ers-On-Amare-Stoudemire-Trade
Hey look, it's basically what I said, lol. I say we do it if we are unable to land LeBron.

I don't mind the idea of taking Amare back but I'm not a huge fan of Shumpert and do we really need more guards? If we were able to get a couple of 1st's somehow, I would definitely think about it. Amare's contract comes off at the end of the year and he already knows our style and Goran.

[PassWarden]

This whole thing is exhausting. And to be honest, all of these guys are just as narcissistic as the next. They all enjoy the attention. I'm moving from excitement at the prospect of adding a big name and into annoyance by all the vanity of these prima donnas.

[jcsunsfan]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/234165/Knicks-Contact-76ers-On-Amare-Stoudemire-Trade
Hey look, it's basically what I said, lol. I say we do it if we are unable to land LeBron.

The idea of taking back a contract and assets is sound. I am just not sure that the Knicks have enough assets to make taking Amare worth it. Shump plus a future pick. But that pick has to be along way into the future and that is $22 million to pay. Amare would come off the books next summer so it would not hinder next year's free agency, but Shumpert really has no future here. He would have to be flipped for something else.

[BobbieL]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/234165/Knicks-Contact-76ers-On-Amare-Stoudemire-Trade
Hey look, it's basically what I said, lol. I say we do it if we are unable to land LeBron.

The idea of taking back a contract and assets is sound. I am just not sure that the Knicks have enough assets to make taking Amare worth it. Shump plus a future pick. But that pick has to be along way into the future and that is $22 million to pay. Amare would come off the books next summer so it would not hinder next year's free agency, but Shumpert really has no future here. He would have to be flipped for something else.

If the Suns have 24m to spend between Amare and Iman for a future first rounder - just as well call up Gasol and offer $26m for TWO years and see if he wants the cash.

Granted we would lose cap space with my deal where Amare just comes off the books

But he looks DONE to me - and the kNicks have zero assets - so I just don't see a real fit

[JMac1]

I wonder if that Ryan Anderson for Gerald Green trade is still on the table?

Ew.... I love Anderson, but Gerald was a straight beast last year. Maybe he wasn't a fluke! Can't dribble and plays terrible D at best, but he is a scoring machine and momentum changer with his dunks. Can't lose him and Tucker. Let Markieff earn his keep before his next contract.

[Qwigglez]

I wonder if that Ryan Anderson for Gerald Green trade is still on the table?

Ew.... I love Anderson, but Gerald was a straight beast last year. Maybe he wasn't a fluke! Can't dribble and plays terrible D at best, but he is a scoring machine and momentum changer with his dunks. Can't lose him and Tucker. Let Markieff earn his keep before his next contract.

Agreed. I'd rather give up some other assets instead of Green.

[Qwigglez]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/234165/Knicks-Contact-76ers-On-Amare-Stoudemire-Trade
Hey look, it's basically what I said, lol. I say we do it if we are unable to land LeBron.

The idea of taking back a contract and assets is sound. I am just not sure that the Knicks have enough assets to make taking Amare worth it. Shump plus a future pick. But that pick has to be along way into the future and that is $22 million to pay. Amare would come off the books next summer so it would not hinder next year's free agency, but Shumpert really has no future here. He would have to be flipped for something else.

If the Suns have 24m to spend between Amare and Iman for a future first rounder - just as well call up Gasol and offer $26m for TWO years and see if he wants the cash.

Granted we would lose cap space with my deal where Amare just comes off the books

But he looks DONE to me - and the kNicks have zero assets - so I just don't see a real fit

I think Amares contract is an asset. I mentioned before, but we could trade Amare for KLove and Kevin Martin. We take Martin's contract and because of that we might not have to give up Dragic. The Wolves do it because no one else is bidding on Love and they don't want to lose him for nothing at the end of the season so at least this way they get rid of a bad contract.

[letsgosuns]

For you guys that are talking about taking back Amare Stoudemire in a trade, that is never going to happen. It does not matter what possible asset the Suns could get back, Robert Sarver is not paying over 23 million dollars for it. If he did not want to pay Amare four years ago, he is not going to want to pay him today. Amare is the second highest paid player in the league. That would be embarrassing for Sarver to go all these years without making the playoffs since he let Amare go, and then suddenly trade for him on the last year of his contract. Amare cannot be relied upon to play even one game. He is that much of a risk. Plus, the Suns already have a plethora of assets and do not want to use up two-thirds of their cap space on a guy that is way past his prime and can barely play.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Amare's contract is not an asset, and the Knicks do not have the draft picks to make it worth acquiring. Nuff said.

[Qwigglez]

Amare's contract is not an asset, and the Knicks do not have the draft picks to make it worth acquiring. Nuff said.

Suns have to hit a minimum salary number before the start of the season. Would you rather we waste cap space on free agents who are looking for multi-year deals?
Acquiring Amare and his contract would give us the option to be a player in next year's free agency period. Or we could trade him for a disgruntled star before the trade deadline. We don't need draft picks for this deal to make sense.

[Jarlaxle0204]

The idea of taking back a contract and assets is sound. I am just not sure that the Knicks have enough assets to make taking Amare worth it. Shump plus a future pick. But that pick has to be along way into the future and that is $22 million to pay. Amare would come off the books next summer so it would not hinder next year's free agency, but Shumpert really has no future here. He would have to be flipped for something else.

If the Suns have 24m to spend between Amare and Iman for a future first rounder - just as well call up Gasol and offer $26m for TWO years and see if he wants the cash.

Granted we would lose cap space with my deal where Amare just comes off the books

But he looks DONE to me - and the kNicks have zero assets - so I just don't see a real fit

I think Amares contract is an asset. I mentioned before, but we could trade Amare for KLove and Kevin Martin. We take Martin's contract and because of that we might not have to give up Dragic. The Wolves do it because no one else is bidding on Love and they don't want to lose him for nothing at the end of the season so at least this way they get rid of a bad contract.

If the Wolves were willing to trade Love and Martin for just Amare's expiring contract, don't you think the Knicks would have done that trade already?

[JJ13]

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...looks like Bledsoe is home in AL, hopefully just getting back from a recruiting trip to PHX or Vegas