Draft Thread: Who do you want with the 13th pick? Stanley Johnson and WCS added..change votes if you want

[kennydorglas]

Kaminsky is legit.
Elite shooting, DRB%, fantastic AST/TO for a big
Rated pretty much like Turner (less defense, more QI)

He is, but college seniors often look legit in college. Tyler Hansbrough for example. Look at the side by side comparison of Kaminsky vs Myles Turner as freshmen.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compar ... k-kaminsky

Really bad comp, Kaminsky wasnt even rated when coming from HS LOL
He made huge strides year-after-year (like Oladipo #146 in 2010) to became who he's right now.

If you want a comparision with another 22yo going to the draft... he's pretty much the same prospect that Olynyk was

He's a lottery pick, no doubt about it.

[RunDogGun]

Okafor went 10/3 in the chip game? Too bad for Wis, in the second half they lose by five, and Duke shoots nine more free throws in that second half.

[bwgood77]

Kaminsky is legit.
Elite shooting, DRB%, fantastic AST/TO for a big
Rated pretty much like Turner (less defense, more QI)

He is, but college seniors often look legit in college. Tyler Hansbrough for example. Look at the side by side comparison of Kaminsky vs Myles Turner as freshmen.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compar ... k-kaminsky

Really bad comp, Kaminsky wasnt even rated when coming from HS LOL
He made huge strides year-after-year (like Oladipo #146 in 2010) to became who he's right now.

If you want a comparision with another 22yo going to the draft... he's pretty much the same prospect that Olynyk was

He's a lottery pick, no doubt about it.

Olynyk is a decent comp. My point is that Myles Turner and most any freshman still have a lot of time to grow as players like Kaminsky has over the last 3 years. I wouldn't be that disappointed if we took Kaminsky, but I would be a little surprised if McDonough did.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

One thing that may make me open to Turner is - perhaps our training staff will think they can really help him athletically. If our trainers think they can help him, I would be neither upset nor surprised if we grabbed him.

[bwgood77]

Okafor went 10/3 in the chip game? Too bad for Wis, in the second half they lose by five, and Duke shoots nine more free throws in that second half.

He had a few quiet games in the tourney. He was in foul trouble. Just a weird game. Duke's guards got on fire and went on a 10-0 run with about 2-4 minutes left.

[jcsunsfan]

One thing that may make me open to Turner is - perhaps our training staff will think they can really help him athletically. If our trainers think they can help him, I would be neither upset nor surprised if we grabbed him.

Quit drafting projects and start drafting players who can plan now.

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

One thing that may make me open to Turner is - perhaps our training staff will think they can really help him athletically. If our trainers think they can help him, I would be neither upset nor surprised if we grabbed him.

Quit drafting projects and start drafting players who can plan now.

That's not our strategy, and it's not good strategy, either. That's what free agency and trades are for.

McD's stated his philosophy: draft the player who will have the best NBA career. I'd say it's worked well, so far. I'm just not sure there's much gold to mine in this draft.

[thamadkant]

I still think trading the pick for a future is a good option. Suns have young players that will need development time next season. Alec Brown and Bogdanovic comes to mind.

Unless a real talented player drops (which I doubt), Suns will likely draft a guy that won't be a factor for years. I know Warren was a pick 14 but last year was a deep draft.... This coming draft is not so deep.

But McD and his scouts will have the inside information to make the call....

But of course trading up would be ideal.

Package 2-3 players plus the 2015 pick and possibly future pick(s) for Towns would be super for Suns future.

Bledsoe OR Knight
Morris twins
Tucker
Pick(s)

For a top 3 would be my dream.... As most here... Unlikely though.

[kennydorglas]

He is, but college seniors often look legit in college. Tyler Hansbrough for example. Look at the side by side comparison of Kaminsky vs Myles Turner as freshmen.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compar ... k-kaminsky

Really bad comp, Kaminsky wasnt even rated when coming from HS LOL
He made huge strides year-after-year (like Oladipo #146 in 2010) to became who he's right now.

If you want a comparision with another 22yo going to the draft... he's pretty much the same prospect that Olynyk was

He's a lottery pick, no doubt about it.

Olynyk is a decent comp. My point is that Myles Turner and most any freshman still have a lot of time to grow as players like Kaminsky has over the last 3 years. I wouldn't be that disappointed if we took Kaminsky, but I would be a little surprised if McDonough did.

Yeah, Turner has a great celiing, but he wont never be a high IQ player... it's a matter of choice really.
if you want a Ryan Anderson type of player, you pick Kaminsky.
If you want a Serge Ibaka type of player, you pick Turner.

I personally believe both of them would be a hell of a fit for us

[jcsunsfan]

One thing that may make me open to Turner is - perhaps our training staff will think they can really help him athletically. If our trainers think they can help him, I would be neither upset nor surprised if we grabbed him.

Quit drafting projects and start drafting players who can plan now.

That's not our strategy, and it's not good strategy, either. That's what free agency and trades are for.

McD's stated his philosophy: draft the player who will have the best NBA career. I'd say it's worked well, so far. I'm just not sure there's much gold to mine in this draft.

If the Suns had used that strategy in 1996 they would have never drafted Steve Nash. Ainge called him the "safe" pick. It is incredibly dangerous to draft players with physical issues, thinking your trainers can fix them. Also, there are all kinds of incredible athletes drafted that do not have the fortitude, braines, or character to succeed.

Even when you do draft a player with a decent future down the road, he ends up being a free agent just as he becomes useful. Also, when you already have a number of projects on your roster, you really need to consider trading the picks or drafting a guaranteed contributor. In our case, you have Len, Archie, and Warren all in the development process--even the Morris brothers would be in that category. Sure, if the guy has superstar potential, but there are so many Earl Clarks out there.

Right now, Turner has much more of a chance of becoming an Earl Clark rather than a star.

[kennydorglas]

Quit drafting projects and start drafting players who can plan now.

That's not our strategy, and it's not good strategy, either. That's what free agency and trades are for.

McD's stated his philosophy: draft the player who will have the best NBA career. I'd say it's worked well, so far. I'm just not sure there's much gold to mine in this draft.

If the Suns had used that strategy in 1996 they would have never drafted Steve Nash. Ainge called him the "safe" pick. It is incredibly dangerous to draft players with physical issues, thinking your trainers can fix them. Also, there are all kinds of incredible athletes drafted that do not have the fortitude, braines, or character to succeed.

Even when you do draft a player with a decent future down the road, he ends up being a free agent just as he becomes useful. Also, when you already have a number of projects on your roster, you really need to consider trading the picks or drafting a guaranteed contributor. In our case, you have Len, Archie, and Warren all in the development process--even the Morris brothers would be in that category. Sure, if the guy has superstar potential, but there are so many Earl Clarks out there.

Right now, Turner has much more of a chance of becoming an Earl Clark rather than a star.

TJ Warren was a safe pick, Len too
We made a gamble on Goodwin and that's it.

[bwgood77]

Really bad comp, Kaminsky wasnt even rated when coming from HS LOL
He made huge strides year-after-year (like Oladipo #146 in 2010) to became who he's right now.

If you want a comparision with another 22yo going to the draft... he's pretty much the same prospect that Olynyk was

He's a lottery pick, no doubt about it.

Olynyk is a decent comp. My point is that Myles Turner and most any freshman still have a lot of time to grow as players like Kaminsky has over the last 3 years. I wouldn't be that disappointed if we took Kaminsky, but I would be a little surprised if McDonough did.

Yeah, Turner has a great celiing, but he wont never be a high IQ player... it's a matter of choice really.
if you want a Ryan Anderson type of player, you pick Kaminsky.
If you want a Serge Ibaka type of player, you pick Turner.

I personally believe both of them would be a hell of a fit for us

Well if they turn into Ibaka or Anderson, I'll take either.

[bwgood77]

Quit drafting projects and start drafting players who can plan now.

That's not our strategy, and it's not good strategy, either. That's what free agency and trades are for.

McD's stated his philosophy: draft the player who will have the best NBA career. I'd say it's worked well, so far. I'm just not sure there's much gold to mine in this draft.

If the Suns had used that strategy in 1996 they would have never drafted Steve Nash. Ainge called him the "safe" pick. It is incredibly dangerous to draft players with physical issues, thinking your trainers can fix them. Also, there are all kinds of incredible athletes drafted that do not have the fortitude, braines, or character to succeed.

Even when you do draft a player with a decent future down the road, he ends up being a free agent just as he becomes useful. Also, when you already have a number of projects on your roster, you really need to consider trading the picks or drafting a guaranteed contributor. In our case, you have Len, Archie, and Warren all in the development process--even the Morris brothers would be in that category. Sure, if the guy has superstar potential, but there are so many Earl Clarks out there.

Right now, Turner has much more of a chance of becoming an Earl Clark rather than a star.

I hear what you are saying, but there are VERY few players that will contribute immediately these days since the best prospects rarely play more than 2 years. So instead of Duncan, Nash, Grant Hill, and those types, you have to either go for upside, or take a chance on a guy from a smaller school (usually). Curry and Lillard were both more of players like Nash who really blossomed into top 15 picks as a senior. McCollum did somewhat a couple of years ago. Does Kaminsky fit that bill? I don't know. Is he better than Hansbrough was? What players will contribute immediately? Even most of the guys taken in the top 5 won't contribute a ton quickly...no one is going to be a major contributor to a playoff contender as a rookie. I can't remember that happening any time in the recent past.

[Mr-Al]

OK - assuming the Knicks get the #2 pick.

New York: Bledsoe, #9 pick
Washington: Morris twins, Hairston, #13 pick, 2016 Cavs pick
Charlotte: Beal, #19 pick
Phoenix: Vonleh, #2 pick, Calderon, Nene

or

#13 & Miami pick for Dario Saric

I love the way you think sir

I've wanted Vonleh for a long time. I liked Saric as well, too bad he can't come till 2016

Unfortuntely, I don't think Phil would be willing to move down just for Bledsoe/#9 pick, I think he could find a better deal maybe
and I doubt the Wiz would give up on Beal so early

[aIvin adams]

if i were mcdonough, what i'd do is, i'd win the lotto and draft mudiay. point guards!

[RunDogGun]

if i were mcdonough, what i'd do is, i'd win the lotto and draft mudiay. point guards!

I would bionicly repair Steve Nash and sign him to a vet deal, but offer an incredible FO deal, in a few years. Then I would go back in time and grab Jordan and Pippen.

[thamadkant]

I've been eying Vonleh and Biyombo for a while now.

I rather get one of them for the Suns 2015 pick.

[Damkac]

Vonleh only played 140 minutes total this season. His per36 minutes stats looks nice so why he played so little?

[thamadkant]

Because Hornets have a glut of big men... Jefferson, Biyombo, Zeller that are more suited to where the Hornets are... Which is fighting for a playoff spot.

[Damkac]

Hell, and people are complaining that Suns don't play their youth