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Post#341 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:52 pm

Myles Turner still runs very strangely.
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Post#342 » by RunDogGun » Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:27 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:Myles Turner still runs very strangely.

He does, doesn't he? That seems like it would be an issue later in his career, but I hope I'm wrong. I hate to see guys go down because of injuries.
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Post#343 » by Damkac » Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:15 pm

nevetsov wrote:
TASTIC wrote:Would the Cavs do:

Kieff
Tucker
Weems
CLE pick

for

Love
Mozgov


I'd then try and flip Moz to a team needing a veteran rim protector, try for a young guy like Meyers Leonard or see if Indy want him for Jordan Hill.


Flip them both, Love has no value to us this year and won't help us contend by the time the youngins are ready. Which contending team has lotto picks to offer?

Boston with BKN picks?
Chicago with the Sac pick?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hmmdprn
Suns also gets Sacramento's top 10 protected pick from Chicago

Chicago gets all-star PF, replacement for injured Noah and defensive wing

Cleveland gets very deep and versatile frontcourt with center with championship experience and players for defence, for offense and for spacing

Phoenix gets young pf, 1st round pick, dumps older guys and rebuild!
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Post#344 » by Saberestar » Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:50 pm

The Suns plan to re-sign forward Cory Jefferson on a 10-day contract, league sources tell Yahoo. Jefferson started season with Phoenix.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/689878386089553920
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Post#345 » by King4Day » Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:52 pm

Damkac wrote:
nevetsov wrote:
TASTIC wrote:Would the Cavs do:

Kieff
Tucker
Weems
CLE pick

for

Love
Mozgov


I'd then try and flip Moz to a team needing a veteran rim protector, try for a young guy like Meyers Leonard or see if Indy want him for Jordan Hill.


Flip them both, Love has no value to us this year and won't help us contend by the time the youngins are ready. Which contending team has lotto picks to offer?

Boston with BKN picks?
Chicago with the Sac pick?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hmmdprn
Suns also gets Sacramento's top 10 protected pick from Chicago

Chicago gets all-star PF, replacement for injured Noah and defensive wing

Cleveland gets very deep and versatile frontcourt with center with championship experience and players for defence, for offense and for spacing

Phoenix gets young pf, 1st round pick, dumps older guys and rebuild!


Not terrible. I just can't see Cleveland taking on Chandlers salary. We can spin him however we want. He's terrible and probably one of the leagues worst contracts. Maybe it's due to the situation but regardless, he's done nothing to warrant his contract. It'll be hard to find a team to take it on for 3 more years.
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Post#346 » by Barkley6 » Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:14 pm

Damkac wrote:
nevetsov wrote:
TASTIC wrote:Would the Cavs do:

Kieff
Tucker
Weems
CLE pick

for

Love
Mozgov


I'd then try and flip Moz to a team needing a veteran rim protector, try for a young guy like Meyers Leonard or see if Indy want him for Jordan Hill.


Flip them both, Love has no value to us this year and won't help us contend by the time the youngins are ready. Which contending team has lotto picks to offer?

Boston with BKN picks?
Chicago with the Sac pick?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hmmdprn
Suns also gets Sacramento's top 10 protected pick from Chicago

Chicago gets all-star PF, replacement for injured Noah and defensive wing

Cleveland gets very deep and versatile frontcourt with center with championship experience and players for defence, for offense and for spacing

Phoenix gets young pf, 1st round pick, dumps older guys and rebuild!


Don't like it. Suns are getting fleeced here. Noah is injured and basically an expiring, Portis has potential, but that's all and Moore is just a toss in. We can get more value than that from Kieff, Tucker, Chandler AND Teletovic, each of whom can help a contender in some way or another. You could probably find better deals trading each individually than in this trade. Hard pass.
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Post#347 » by RunDogGun » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:09 am

I don't mind that deal with Chi/Cavs.
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Post#348 » by JohnWall2 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:10 am

Barkley6 wrote:
Damkac wrote:
nevetsov wrote:
Flip them both, Love has no value to us this year and won't help us contend by the time the youngins are ready. Which contending team has lotto picks to offer?

Boston with BKN picks?
Chicago with the Sac pick?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hmmdprn
Suns also gets Sacramento's top 10 protected pick from Chicago

Chicago gets all-star PF, replacement for injured Noah and defensive wing

Cleveland gets very deep and versatile frontcourt with center with championship experience and players for defence, for offense and for spacing

Phoenix gets young pf, 1st round pick, dumps older guys and rebuild!


Don't like it. Suns are getting fleeced here. Noah is injured and basically an expiring, Portis has potential, but that's all and Moore is just a toss in. We can get more value than that from Kieff, Tucker, Chandler AND Teletovic, each of whom can help a contender in some way or another. You could probably find better deals trading each individually than in this trade. Hard pass.


Thats funny, no we arent getting fleeced giving up that rabble of crap. All of them need to go (bar Tele, but he doesnt fit the direction we are/should be going) and if we can net Portis, a 1st rounder, an expiring and that 'toss in' then we should walk away from that deal with a big smile on our faces because it won't happen.
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Post#349 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:44 am

JohnWall2 wrote:
Barkley6 wrote:
Damkac wrote:http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=hmmdprn
Suns also gets Sacramento's top 10 protected pick from Chicago

Chicago gets all-star PF, replacement for injured Noah and defensive wing

Cleveland gets very deep and versatile frontcourt with center with championship experience and players for defence, for offense and for spacing

Phoenix gets young pf, 1st round pick, dumps older guys and rebuild!


Don't like it. Suns are getting fleeced here. Noah is injured and basically an expiring, Portis has potential, but that's all and Moore is just a toss in. We can get more value than that from Kieff, Tucker, Chandler AND Teletovic, each of whom can help a contender in some way or another. You could probably find better deals trading each individually than in this trade. Hard pass.


Thats funny, no we arent getting fleeced giving up that rabble of crap. All of them need to go (bar Tele, but he doesnt fit the direction we are/should be going) and if we can net Portis, a 1st rounder, an expiring and that 'toss in' then we should walk away from that deal with a big smile on our faces because it won't happen.


Given where our team is now, and if we get Sacramento's pick, I'd do it. Telly will be gone anyway, and the others are all pretty much negatives (Personally I think Tucker is a good glue guy for a team and I love his effort but if he is going to hold back Warren, I'd rather get rid of him).

I'd love a lineup of Bledsoe/Booker/Warren/Portis/Len and then a second unit of Knight/Bogdan/Sacramento pick/Leuer/Noah next year.
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Post#350 » by JohnWall2 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:58 am

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JohnWall2 wrote:
Barkley6 wrote:
Don't like it. Suns are getting fleeced here. Noah is injured and basically an expiring, Portis has potential, but that's all and Moore is just a toss in. We can get more value than that from Kieff, Tucker, Chandler AND Teletovic, each of whom can help a contender in some way or another. You could probably find better deals trading each individually than in this trade. Hard pass.


Thats funny, no we arent getting fleeced giving up that rabble of crap. All of them need to go (bar Tele, but he doesnt fit the direction we are/should be going) and if we can net Portis, a 1st rounder, an expiring and that 'toss in' then we should walk away from that deal with a big smile on our faces because it won't happen.


Given where our team is now, and if we get Sacramento's pick, I'd do it. Telly will be gone anyway, and the others are all pretty much negatives (Personally I think Tucker is a good glue guy for a team and I love his effort but if he is going to hold back Warren, I'd rather get rid of him).

I'd love a lineup of Bledsoe/Booker/Warren/Portis/Len and then a second unit of Knight/Bogdan/Sacramento pick/Leuer/Noah next year.


Not to mention our own pick ;)
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Post#351 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:01 am

JohnWall2 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
JohnWall2 wrote:
Thats funny, no we arent getting fleeced giving up that rabble of crap. All of them need to go (bar Tele, but he doesnt fit the direction we are/should be going) and if we can net Portis, a 1st rounder, an expiring and that 'toss in' then we should walk away from that deal with a big smile on our faces because it won't happen.


Given where our team is now, and if we get Sacramento's pick, I'd do it. Telly will be gone anyway, and the others are all pretty much negatives (Personally I think Tucker is a good glue guy for a team and I love his effort but if he is going to hold back Warren, I'd rather get rid of him).

I'd love a lineup of Bledsoe/Booker/Warren/Portis/Len and then a second unit of Knight/Bogdan/Sacramento pick/Leuer/Noah next year.


Not to mention our own pick ;)


Oh yeah, how'd I miss that.

We can move Noah out of the second lineup and just go with whoever we get with our own pick, and those picks, if studs, can challenge our starters along with basically the whole second unit, because most all that team can play (offense, at least).
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Post#352 » by blacksun » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:28 am

Im curious, would you guys rather hold on to Knight and see what he becomes next year with another coach, or trade him now or in the offseason while his value is relatively okay?
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Post#353 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:47 am

blacksun wrote:Im curious, would you guys rather hold on to Knight and see what he becomes next year with another coach, or trade him now or in the offseason while his value is relatively okay?

I'd trade him now or in the offseason but then I've never been a fan of Knight's so I'm probably biased towards that approach.
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Post#354 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:47 am

blacksun wrote:Im curious, would you guys rather hold on to Knight and see what he becomes next year with another coach, or trade him now or in the offseason while his value is relatively okay?


I'd rather trade him, because I simply don't like him much as a player. I imagine he will be around for awhile, but even if Bledsoe's career is shortened, Knight is not a PG, and even though he is a decent SG, he isn't better than Booker.

The problem is, I can't see him having that much value. I'd probably wait until contracts are handed out this summer and when teams vastly overpaid people, perhaps's Knight's contract looks like a value, and if a team needs a guard like him (though I think few do, and some that provide similar things are much cheaper, like Lou Williams), but his value should only go up as the cap rises. To raise his value, I would move him to 6th man next season and let him do well against second units.....maybe make people think he can be a poor man's Harden/Ginobili type of player off the bench and a team might want him as a starter.

Part of the reason he is getting SO many minutes and not benched is possibly to inflate stats for trade value because they have realized this.
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Post#355 » by Fo-Real » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:53 am

blacksun wrote:Im curious, would you guys rather hold on to Knight and see what he becomes next year with another coach, or trade him now or in the offseason while his value is relatively okay?


NOW!! Like 6 minutes ago!
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Post#356 » by Mulhollanddrive » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:55 am

For what though?

If it's for another nothing type player, is there much point.
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Post#357 » by blacksun » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:04 am

bwgood77 wrote:
blacksun wrote:Im curious, would you guys rather hold on to Knight and see what he becomes next year with another coach, or trade him now or in the offseason while his value is relatively okay?


I'd rather trade him, because I simply don't like him much as a player. I imagine he will be around for awhile, but even if Bledsoe's career is shortened, Knight is not a PG, and even though he is a decent SG, he isn't better than Booker.

The problem is, I can't see him having that much value. I'd probably wait until contracts are handed out this summer and when teams vastly overpaid people, perhaps's Knight's contract looks like a value, and if a team needs a guard like him (though I think few do, and some that provide similar things are much cheaper, like Lou Williams), but his value should only go up as the cap rises. To raise his value, I would move him to 6th man next season and let him do well against second units.....maybe make people think he can be a poor man's Harden/Ginobili type of player off the bench and a team might want him as a starter.

Part of the reason he is getting SO many minutes and not benched is possibly to inflate stats for trade value because they have realized this.


I think he still has good value right now to the right team. Im not sure where I saw this, but something like Gordon, Pels 1st for Knight sounds really good for us. Now I dont know if the Pelicans are still interested in making a run for the playoffs so I dont know if they would be interested in this deal at all.

I agree on the inflated stats part tho. We seem to be seeing the same BK that put up stats in Mil, the same BK that their fans complain about even today. And Mil got us to bite so maybe we can get someone else to do too? :D
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Post#358 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:13 am

blacksun wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
blacksun wrote:Im curious, would you guys rather hold on to Knight and see what he becomes next year with another coach, or trade him now or in the offseason while his value is relatively okay?


I'd rather trade him, because I simply don't like him much as a player. I imagine he will be around for awhile, but even if Bledsoe's career is shortened, Knight is not a PG, and even though he is a decent SG, he isn't better than Booker.

The problem is, I can't see him having that much value. I'd probably wait until contracts are handed out this summer and when teams vastly overpaid people, perhaps's Knight's contract looks like a value, and if a team needs a guard like him (though I think few do, and some that provide similar things are much cheaper, like Lou Williams), but his value should only go up as the cap rises. To raise his value, I would move him to 6th man next season and let him do well against second units.....maybe make people think he can be a poor man's Harden/Ginobili type of player off the bench and a team might want him as a starter.

Part of the reason he is getting SO many minutes and not benched is possibly to inflate stats for trade value because they have realized this.


I think he still has good value right now to the right team. Im not sure where I saw this, but something like Gordon, Pels 1st for Knight sounds really good for us. Now I dont know if the Pelicans are still interested in making a run for the playoffs so I dont know if they would be interested in this deal at all.

I agree on the inflated stats part tho. We seem to be seeing the same BK that put up stats in Mil, the same BK that their fans complain about even today. And Mil got us to bite so maybe we can get someone else to do too? :D


Well I'd do that deal, but no way Pels take themselves out of the Ben Simmons/Brandon Ingram sweepstakes, so it would probably be like top 4 protected AT MINIMUM. I still doubt they would do it, but who knows?
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Post#359 » by Saberestar » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:00 am

I have been told Phoenix still has eyes for Channing and that Sacramento was interested, but not sure either is real

https://mobile.twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/689974791860809728

It is Kyler, so I do not believe it.
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Post#360 » by lilfishi22 » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:26 am

For Kieff? I still feel we can do better than that

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