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Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2

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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#341 » by pelifan » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:01 pm

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Ummmm, what's going on here? I'm not sure what we'd even offer.


What's going on is these are 3 big market franchises that will get peoples attention. Boston cant even match contracts.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#342 » by TeamTragic » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:03 pm

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Saberestar wrote:Triano staying all year long. Another cheap contract as a HC, what a surprise...


Don't be surprised. This team is not ready for a proper coach.


It's probably smart to wait until the offseason when there are a lot more options but they sure as hell better interview a bunch of people and not just hire Triano.


Nobody wants to coach this team and I blame Sarver.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#343 » by BobbieL » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:04 pm

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CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
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Ummmm, what's going on here? I'm not sure what we'd even offer.

I don't think that Montemayor is a legit source, but the Celtics can offer Smart or Rozier and a filler.


Celtics - I cannot see any trade with the cap

Clippers -- Beverly, Wesley Johnson and Dekker for Bledsoe works cap wise. I wouldn't want Rivers. But Beverly plays defense
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#344 » by BobbieL » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:05 pm

GoranTragic wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
Don't be surprised. This team is not ready for a proper coach.


It's probably smart to wait until the offseason when there are a lot more options but they sure as hell better interview a bunch of people and not just hire Triano.


Tough call. Which coach would actually help this team?


Maybe they talked to Majerle and he said, "after the season"
or guys like Jackson and Van Gundy said No
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#345 » by TeamTragic » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:05 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Saberestar wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
Read on Twitter


Ummmm, what's going on here? I'm not sure what we'd even offer.

I don't think that Montemayor is a legit source, but the Celtics can offer Smart or Rozier and a filler.


Celtics - I cannot see any trade with the cap

Clippers -- Beverly, Wesley Johnson and Dekker for Bledsoe works cap wise. I wouldn't want Rivers. But Beverly plays defense


That Clipper trade is pure garbage. NO
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#346 » by Saberestar » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:05 pm

GoranTragic wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Triano staying all year long. Another cheap contract as a HC, what a surprise...


Don't be surprised. This team is not ready for a proper coach.

Yeah, probably we will never be.

Going for 8 years without playoffs and rebuilding but after all this **** people are gonna say that the "pure and authentic rebuilding" starts next season with a new coach and (probably) a new GM.

Depressing.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#347 » by TeamTragic » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:05 pm

BobbieL wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
It's probably smart to wait until the offseason when there are a lot more options but they sure as hell better interview a bunch of people and not just hire Triano.


Tough call. Which coach would actually help this team?


Maybe they talked to Majerle and he said, "after the season"
or guys like Jackson and Van Gundy said No


Majerle would be perfect. However that bridge was burned when they hired Hornacek.
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Post#348 » by Blackification » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:06 pm

Work those smokescreens McD. These rumored trades already probably dead or far off from the package. I’m paying more attention to which players are now injured and not playing tonight after this drama went viral
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#349 » by TeamTragic » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:07 pm

Saberestar wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Triano staying all year long. Another cheap contract as a HC, what a surprise...


Don't be surprised. This team is not ready for a proper coach.

Yeah, probably we will never be.

7 years without playoffs and rebuilding but after all this **** people are gonna say that the "pure and authentic rebuilding" starts next season with a new coach and (probably) a new GM.

Depressing.


I honestly think that no brilliant basketball mind would coach a team owned by Sarver. When he sells then you will see every coach lined up for interviews under the new owners.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#350 » by BobbieL » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:08 pm

GoranTragic wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Saberestar wrote:I don't think that Montemayor is a legit source, but the Celtics can offer Smart or Rozier and a filler.


Celtics - I cannot see any trade with the cap

Clippers -- Beverly, Wesley Johnson and Dekker for Bledsoe works cap wise. I wouldn't want Rivers. But Beverly plays defense


That Clipper trade is pure garbage. NO


I am not saying I like the Clipper trade - just trying to figure out dollars that match. Its not a good trade

The Celtics don't have anything that I can see

Bucks or Nuggets match up the best

Sarver needs to go
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#351 » by Kerrsed » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:09 pm

Saberestar wrote:
CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
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Ummmm, what's going on here? I'm not sure what we'd even offer.

I don't think that Montemayor is a legit source, but the Celtics can offer Smart or Rozier and a filler.


Check the trade machine, there is no filler.

They have Hayward($30M)/Horford($28M)/Irving($19M) taking the majority of the capspace, then the next 3 closest are Tatum/Morris/Brown (All making a bit over $5M), so once you take all those players off the table, then you really have no filler to make up for the other $10M that it would take if it was for Smart or $13M for Rozier.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#352 » by TeamTragic » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:10 pm

BobbieL wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
Celtics - I cannot see any trade with the cap

Clippers -- Beverly, Wesley Johnson and Dekker for Bledsoe works cap wise. I wouldn't want Rivers. But Beverly plays defense


That Clipper trade is pure garbage. NO


I am not saying I like the Clipper trade - just trying to figure out dollars that match. Its not a good trade

The Celtics don't have anything that I can see

Bucks or Nuggets match up the best

Sarver needs to go


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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#353 » by Saberestar » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:10 pm

GoranTragic wrote:
Saberestar wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
Don't be surprised. This team is not ready for a proper coach.

Yeah, probably we will never be.

7 years without playoffs and rebuilding but after all this **** people are gonna say that the "pure and authentic rebuilding" starts next season with a new coach and (probably) a new GM.

Depressing.


I honestly think that no brilliant basketball mind would coach a team owned by Sarver. When he sells then you will see every coach lined up for interviews under the new owners.

OK, but what if he never sells the team?
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#354 » by TeamTragic » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:12 pm

Saberestar wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Yeah, probably we will never be.

7 years without playoffs and rebuilding but after all this **** people are gonna say that the "pure and authentic rebuilding" starts next season with a new coach and (probably) a new GM.

Depressing.


I honestly think that no brilliant basketball mind would coach a team owned by Sarver. When he sells then you will see every coach lined up for interviews under the new owners.

OK, but what if he never sells the team?


Then we continue this discussion indefinitely. McD is not the problem.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#355 » by Saberestar » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:14 pm

Kerrsed wrote:
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CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:
Read on Twitter


Ummmm, what's going on here? I'm not sure what we'd even offer.

I don't think that Montemayor is a legit source, but the Celtics can offer Smart or Rozier and a filler.


Check the trade machine, there is no filler.

They have Hayward($30M)/Horford($28M)/Irving($19M) taking the majority of the capspace, then the next 3 closest are Tatum/Morris/Brown (All making a bit over $5M), so once you take all those players off the table, then you really have no filler to make up for the other $10M that it would take if it was for Smart or $13M for Rozier.

With a third team involved. Morris would be out for sure.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#356 » by bwgood77 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:14 pm

When asked Monday if Watson should have focused more on X-and-O style coaching compared to just unity and brotherhood talk, Booker disagreed. He believes the process goes together.

Booker and Watson’s relationship was displayed as one of the closest on the team, and it showed when they spoke of each other throughout this summer. Now, Booker will have to work through this situation with him not even turning 21-years-old until the end of this month.

“No, because I think they go hand-in-hand,” Booker said. “Coach Earl, he stressed with us love, brotherhood and something I believe in. If you know the story between me and Earl, he started out as my player development (coach). I wouldn’t be in this situation without him. He’s helped me every step of the way. He’s been a mentor to me, a motivator that I can go to and talk about anything. So, that’s a relationship that lasts for life and me and him have talked about that. And we understand that. Earl is the type of guy I want around my kids. I want to be around his kids, that’s family to me. Family lasts. That’s way bigger than basketball to me.”


https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2017/10/23/16526580/fallout-from-shootaround-on-watsons-firing-bledsoe-leaving-the-team-phoenix-suns-nba
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#357 » by BobbieL » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:14 pm

GoranTragic wrote:
Saberestar wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
I honestly think that no brilliant basketball mind would coach a team owned by Sarver. When he sells then you will see every coach lined up for interviews under the new owners.

OK, but what if he never sells the team?


Then we continue this discussion indefinitely. Dysfunctional franchise will be dysfunctional.



And this is perfect Sarver. The day they hired James Jones - Sarver said he was understanding how long it takes to win; it will be a process and he needs to be patience

But now, he is saying the team should go to the playoffs.

Sarver one thing does something and then next day does something else. It must be obnoxious in that building dealing with him
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#358 » by TeamTragic » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:15 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
When asked Monday if Watson should have focused more on X-and-O style coaching compared to just unity and brotherhood talk, Booker disagreed. He believes the process goes together.

Booker and Watson’s relationship was displayed as one of the closest on the team, and it showed when they spoke of each other throughout this summer. Now, Booker will have to work through this situation with him not even turning 21-years-old until the end of this month.

“No, because I think they go hand-in-hand,” Booker said. “Coach Earl, he stressed with us love, brotherhood and something I believe in. If you know the story between me and Earl, he started out as my player development (coach). I wouldn’t be in this situation without him. He’s helped me every step of the way. He’s been a mentor to me, a motivator that I can go to and talk about anything. So, that’s a relationship that lasts for life and me and him have talked about that. And we understand that. Earl is the type of guy I want around my kids. I want to be around his kids, that’s family to me. Family lasts. That’s way bigger than basketball to me.”


https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2017/10/23/16526580/fallout-from-shootaround-on-watsons-firing-bledsoe-leaving-the-team-phoenix-suns-nba


That just proves that Watson was a mentor not a coach. He remains close with the team.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#359 » by TeamTragic » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:17 pm

BobbieL wrote:
GoranTragic wrote:
Saberestar wrote:OK, but what if he never sells the team?


Then we continue this discussion indefinitely. Dysfunctional franchise will be dysfunctional.



And this is perfect Sarver. The day they hired James Jones - Sarver said he was understanding how long it takes to win; it will be a process and he needs to be patience

But now, he is saying the team should go to the playoffs.

Sarver one thing does something and then next day does something else. It must be obnoxious in that building dealing with him


When I heard that comment about being .500 and making the playoffs this season my eyes widened. I think Sarver needs a therapist and clearly has poor judgement. That is just downright insane especially in the West.
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Re: Season Speculation, Trade Ideas & Discussion Pt. 2 

Post#360 » by bwgood77 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:18 pm

GoranTragic wrote:
BobbieL wrote:
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Tough call. Which coach would actually help this team?


Maybe they talked to Majerle and he said, "after the season"
or guys like Jackson and Van Gundy said No


Majerle would be perfect. However that bridge was burned when they hired Hornacek.


No, it was burned when they promoted assistant Lindsey Hunter instead of assistant Dan Majerle. Majerle immediately quit.

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