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Post#341 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:50 pm

Frank Lee wrote:He sure needs to not do this.


This no extension is a non story, other than the FO f-ed things up by dubbing him the starter. Imagine if they didn’t do that till near mid season. Guessing his camp thinking he deserves starter money, before actually starting.


Agree the extension is a non-story. No problem with them naming him starter, though. Gave him a promotion and respect. Well-deserved. Also puts the pressure on him to perform. We'll see what he's made of. Seems like the right approach to me. Allows both sides to come to the bargaining table fully-empowered and well-informed next summer.

And what, were we really going to name Craig the starter? Be real, Frank!
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Post#342 » by Frank Lee » Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:37 am

Could have just went with our man Chuck … and then again, our man could have just said he’s fine as sixth man.

Allegedly, Chuck says trade me after CamJo was crowned. Not so sure it wasn’t already brewing. Doesn’t really matter tho.
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Post#343 » by dremill24 » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:15 am

Frank Lee wrote:He sure needs to not do this.


This no extension is a non story, other than the FO f-ed things up by dubbing him the starter. Imagine if they didn’t do that till near mid season. Guessing his camp thinking he deserves starter money, before actually starting.


Sidenote: when are we going to stop treating bumping/pushing/tripping a guy to knock him over as "He BrOkE hIs AnKlEz!" Like...get a clue.
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Post#344 » by Frank Lee » Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:35 am

Soon as they quit flopping at the slightest nudge
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Post#345 » by Saberestar » Wed Nov 2, 2022 5:42 pm

This highlights are a joy to watch, Cam J reminded me of Ray Allen in this game. That shot is PURE.

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Post#346 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Wed Nov 2, 2022 7:31 pm

Saberestar wrote:This highlights are a joy to watch, Cam J reminded me of Ray Allen in this game. That shot is PURE.


Everyone said you shouldn't start two centers in today's NBA. Wolves mortgaged their whole future to defy the consensus. Well, here's the result. What a disaster for that franchise.
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Post#347 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Nov 2, 2022 7:46 pm

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Post#348 » by sunsbum » Wed Nov 2, 2022 8:25 pm

Let’s see if he can stay healthy before we crown’em.
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Post#349 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Nov 2, 2022 10:11 pm

ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
Saberestar wrote:This highlights are a joy to watch, Cam J reminded me of Ray Allen in this game. That shot is PURE.


Everyone said you shouldn't start two centers in today's NBA. Wolves mortgaged their whole future to defy the consensus. Well, here's the result. What a disaster for that franchise.

That was such an odd gamble and sure it's still early in the season and they oculd still make it work but twin tower line ups haven't worked in at least a decade or two. The only rationale I can think of is that their front office thought Towns was getting impatient about turning the team around, Gobert became available and they took a punt. A VERY expensive punt.
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Post#350 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Nov 2, 2022 10:12 pm

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Post#351 » by WeekapaugGroove » Wed Nov 2, 2022 10:43 pm

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ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
Saberestar wrote:This highlights are a joy to watch, Cam J reminded me of Ray Allen in this game. That shot is PURE.


Everyone said you shouldn't start two centers in today's NBA. Wolves mortgaged their whole future to defy the consensus. Well, here's the result. What a disaster for that franchise.

That was such an odd gamble and sure it's still early in the season and they oculd still make it work but twin tower line ups haven't worked in at least a decade or two. The only rationale I can think of is that their front office thought Towns was getting impatient about turning the team around, Gobert became available and they took a punt. A VERY expensive punt.
I hope every poster who's proposed some sort of twin towers trade to pair Ayton with another big watched last night's game.

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Post#352 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 3, 2022 12:50 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
ImNotMcDiSwear wrote:
Everyone said you shouldn't start two centers in today's NBA. Wolves mortgaged their whole future to defy the consensus. Well, here's the result. What a disaster for that franchise.

That was such an odd gamble and sure it's still early in the season and they oculd still make it work but twin tower line ups haven't worked in at least a decade or two. The only rationale I can think of is that their front office thought Towns was getting impatient about turning the team around, Gobert became available and they took a punt. A VERY expensive punt.
I hope every poster who's proposed some sort of twin towers trade to pair Ayton with another big watched last night's game.

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Yeah, it partially depends on skill set. AD and Mobley are basically C's, but they are agile enough to play PF with a more traditional big. Horford has played as C a lot, and is basically more of a big than a PF and they won the championship. The Bucks play big. I didn't think Towns would be able to guard Cam though.

But it has worked for some teams like SA a lot in the past with Duncan at PF, the Lakers a few years back, Cleveland is looking good now, etc. You definitely need a perimeter defender though. It didn't really work well in Indy since Turner is and basically wants to play C....and I guess they are still trying it since they basically have Jalen Smith at PF, a guy we though should be a C. Utah is playing big right now...none of those 3 bigs are really PFs, but they probably ultimately are not that good.

But yeah, I've never been a guy that advocated for Ayton at PF or playing with another big. It didn't really work that well with Saric even, though of course he's not that great.
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Post#353 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Thu Nov 3, 2022 2:44 pm

bwgood77 wrote:But yeah, I've never been a guy that advocated for Ayton at PF or playing with another big. It didn't really work that well with Saric even, though of course he's not that great.


Can't play PF if you can't bend your knees! :lol:
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Post#354 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu Nov 3, 2022 3:36 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:That was such an odd gamble and sure it's still early in the season and they oculd still make it work but twin tower line ups haven't worked in at least a decade or two. The only rationale I can think of is that their front office thought Towns was getting impatient about turning the team around, Gobert became available and they took a punt. A VERY expensive punt.
I hope every poster who's proposed some sort of twin towers trade to pair Ayton with another big watched last night's game.

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Yeah, it partially depends on skill set. AD and Mobley are basically C's, but they are agile enough to play PF with a more traditional big. Horford has played as C a lot, and is basically more of a big than a PF and they won the championship. The Bucks play big. I didn't think Towns would be able to guard Cam though.

But it has worked for some teams like SA a lot in the past with Duncan at PF, the Lakers a few years back, Cleveland is looking good now, etc. You definitely need a perimeter defender though. It didn't really work well in Indy since Turner is and basically wants to play C....and I guess they are still trying it since they basically have Jalen Smith at PF, a guy we though should be a C. Utah is playing big right now...none of those 3 bigs are really PFs, but they probably ultimately are not that good.

But yeah, I've never been a guy that advocated for Ayton at PF or playing with another big. It didn't really work that well with Saric even, though of course he's not that great.
Yeah if you have freaks like Giannis and Mobley you can go big because those guys can guard anyone. But even Giannis has to be paired with a shooting big like Brook or the lane gets too clogged on O.

I think it's two things why some have called for the twin towers Ayton stuff. Some are just stuck in the past and want a 'real PF'. But I think more it's people overestimate Aytons perimeter D. Like he's not Gobert who's just fried chicken in space and can be played off the floor but he's also not great out there and not someone you want doing that the majority of the game.

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Post#355 » by Qwigglez » Fri Nov 4, 2022 2:20 am



Haven't watched it yet. Looks like these guys also have an interview with Bridges.
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Post#356 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Nov 4, 2022 9:22 pm

Qwigglez wrote:

Haven't watched it yet. Looks like these guys also have an interview with Bridges.


I checked it out. It's with Theo Pinson, Cam's teammate and friend at UNC. Mostly them chopping it up about college but they do touch on the draft and his time with the Suns and last years Mavs series (Theo was on that Mavs team).

Cam comes across as you would expect; mature, chill, smart, likeable. Kind of guy who will be successful in whatever he decides to do after basketball.
Didn't realize both his parents were good college players. Cam grew up around hoops and has been a hoops junkie since he was a toddler.
He won an AAU national championship as an 8 year old.
He was a PG until he grew a foot in high school. Has been obsessive about shooting since he was little. Thinks the rapid growth and heavy training while not really knowing what he was doing cause some of his injury issues in college.
He has a photographic memory when it comes to games, can talk about situations, scores, who was on the floor of random college and high school games he's played in.

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Said he basically made every shot in his workouts with New Orleans and Phoenix. Really liked the city after visiting phoenix. His agent was hearing a lot of interest from teams in the teens but everyone was keeping it on the down low. Laughed about all the 'F' grades and stuff saying he might not have even been a 1st rounder after the draft. Was like **** yall, give me a chance and I'll show you I belong.

Said he felt good going into game 7 against Dallas. Said they just didn't play well and Dallas was on point that game. Been brutal but something to learn from.
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Post#357 » by Thor Buthox » Sat Nov 5, 2022 5:34 am

Typical for an NBA player to buy a mansion when they get a pay day.

I would recommend Johnson buy a private hospital room instead because he's going to spend more time there than at home (or on the court).
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Post#358 » by Qwigglez » Sat Nov 5, 2022 6:18 pm

Just great.
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Could be out for basically the remainder of the year. Suns need to start ponying up those picks to get a viable replacement at PF.


Cam Johnson really should have taken the offer the Suns gave him. Instead he gambled on not getting injured and it could have some massive consequences for his financial future.
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Post#359 » by Slim Charless » Sat Nov 5, 2022 7:55 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Just great.
Read on Twitter


Could be out for basically the remainder of the year. Suns need to start ponying up those picks to get a viable replacement at PF.


Cam Johnson really should have taken the offer the Suns gave him. Instead he gambled on not getting injured and it could have some massive consequences for his financial future.


If I was him, I'd shoot for after the all star game. If he can get rolling again during the playoffs and looks good he'll still get paid. That also gives him 3 months to rehab and get his knee healed.
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Post#360 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sat Nov 5, 2022 8:02 pm

Absolutely brutal for both him and the Suns.

**** meniscus injuries are so unpredictable. Some dudes come back quick and have little future issues and some guys are never really the same. With lots of in between because it is a fairly common injury.

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