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Warriors roster just isn't a fit for Kerr's desired style of play, especially without Klay. Curry is still really good, but guys like Wiggins and Oubre are ball pounders that stifle ball movement. They don't help the Curry-Wiseman pick and roll much either considering their mediocre shooting. They'll probably look a bit better when Wiggins and Oubre don't both lay an egg and they're not playing the Nets though.

Wiseman has looked okay. I like that he's aggressive offensively, but he's looked like more of a plodder than I expected.

Outside of Curry they just aren't that good, especially their bench which is going to get proper **** most nights in the brutal ass west.

I was lower on this team even with Klay. Without him I legit think they could finish last in the West.

Edit: 14th actually, OKC is tanking from day 1 so probably hard to get under them.

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[bwgood77]

Warriors roster just isn't a fit for Kerr's desired style of play, especially without Klay. Curry is still really good, but guys like Wiggins and Oubre are ball pounders that stifle ball movement. They don't help the Curry-Wiseman pick and roll much either considering their mediocre shooting. They'll probably look a bit better when Wiggins and Oubre don't both lay an egg and they're not playing the Nets though.

Wiseman has looked okay. I like that he's aggressive offensively, but he's looked like more of a plodder than I expected.

Outside of Curry they just aren't that good, especially their bench which is going to get proper **** most nights in the brutal ass west.

I was lower on this team even with Klay. Without him I legit think they could finish last in the West.

Edit: 14th actually, OKC is tanking from day 1 so probably hard to get under them.

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I will be surprised if they are THAT bad. I mean a lot of people liked Oubre a lot and he does have some skills, though if he moved the ball better and shot a little better from 3 that would help their offense. Though he did shoot over 35% last year which isn't that bad.

I am not sure who their other best 3 pt shooter is..looks like they all shot 33-36% last year, but whoever shoots best now, unless they are a scrub, I'd probably start and maybe bring Wiggins off the bench.

But either way, I probably would not start Draymond and Wiseman together and would bring Wiseman off the bench

Draymond should help with his defense and playmaking, as long as they don't play him with Wiseman, unless one of them has a legit 3. Draymond hasn't shot well from 3 since 15-16 though.

I think Klay would help a ton though..as he would HAVE to be guarded and with him and Curry so good at shooting the 3, even off the dribble, it would make them significantly tougher and they'd have a pretty legit lineup with them two, Draymond, Wiggins and Oubre.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Warriors roster just isn't a fit for Kerr's desired style of play, especially without Klay. Curry is still really good, but guys like Wiggins and Oubre are ball pounders that stifle ball movement. They don't help the Curry-Wiseman pick and roll much either considering their mediocre shooting. They'll probably look a bit better when Wiggins and Oubre don't both lay an egg and they're not playing the Nets though.

Wiseman has looked okay. I like that he's aggressive offensively, but he's looked like more of a plodder than I expected.

Outside of Curry they just aren't that good, especially their bench which is going to get proper **** most nights in the brutal ass west.

I was lower on this team even with Klay. Without him I legit think they could finish last in the West.

Edit: 14th actually, OKC is tanking from day 1 so probably hard to get under them.

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I will be surprised if they are THAT bad. I mean a lot of people liked Oubre a lot and he does have some skills, though if he moved the ball better and shot a little better from 3 that would help their offense. Though he did shoot over 35% last year which isn't that bad.

I am not sure who their other best 3 pt shooter is..looks like they all shot 33-36% last year, but whoever shoots best now, unless they are a scrub, I'd probably start and maybe bring Wiggins off the bench.

But either way, I probably would not start Draymond and Wiseman together and would bring Wiseman off the bench

Draymond should help with his defense and playmaking, as long as they don't play him with Wiseman, unless one of them has a legit 3. Draymond hasn't shot well from 3 since 15-16 though.

I think Klay would help a ton though..as he would HAVE to be guarded and with him and Curry so good at shooting the 3, even off the dribble, it would make them significantly tougher and they'd have a pretty legit lineup with them two, Draymond, Wiggins and Oubre.

I like Oubre and think he'll put up career numbers.

It's a bold pick to say they will be that bad but I'm calling my shot. I see lots of problems m They really need another guard who can take some pressure off Curry. Teams are going to key so much on Steph I think it wears him down. Wiggins is inconsistent. I don't think Green is going to age well. Wiseman could be good but rookie bigs typically take a little time. The 3pt shooting is sketchy after Curry. And last but certainly not least is they have to play too many bad players when they go to the bench or have any injuries. Weve seen with the suns in the past when you play bad players even limited minutes it just murders you in the deep west.

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Outside of Curry they just aren't that good, especially their bench which is going to get proper **** most nights in the brutal ass west.

I was lower on this team even with Klay. Without him I legit think they could finish last in the West.

Edit: 14th actually, OKC is tanking from day 1 so probably hard to get under them.

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I will be surprised if they are THAT bad. I mean a lot of people liked Oubre a lot and he does have some skills, though if he moved the ball better and shot a little better from 3 that would help their offense. Though he did shoot over 35% last year which isn't that bad.

I am not sure who their other best 3 pt shooter is..looks like they all shot 33-36% last year, but whoever shoots best now, unless they are a scrub, I'd probably start and maybe bring Wiggins off the bench.

But either way, I probably would not start Draymond and Wiseman together and would bring Wiseman off the bench

Draymond should help with his defense and playmaking, as long as they don't play him with Wiseman, unless one of them has a legit 3. Draymond hasn't shot well from 3 since 15-16 though.

I think Klay would help a ton though..as he would HAVE to be guarded and with him and Curry so good at shooting the 3, even off the dribble, it would make them significantly tougher and they'd have a pretty legit lineup with them two, Draymond, Wiggins and Oubre.

I like Oubre and think he'll put up career numbers.

It's a bold pick to say they will be that bad but I'm calling my shot. I see lots of problems m They really need another guard who can take some pressure off Curry. Teams are going to key so much on Steph I think it wears him down. Wiggins is inconsistent. I don't think Green is going to age well. Wiseman could be good but rookie bigs typically take a little time. The 3pt shooting is sketchy after Curry. And last but certainly not least is they have to play too many bad players when they go to the bench or have any injuries. Weve seen with the suns in the past when you play bad players even limited minutes it just murders you in the deep west.

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I like Oubre but he is a chucker doesnt fit in a Kerr offense square peg round hole thing. He is just a black hole on the offensive end once the ball is in his hands, I think golden state is going to regret paying that 80 million dollar bill

[Revived]

Wiseman thinks he's Giannis out there.. but looking erratic and out of control... usually a problem with young wings, but a 7 footer playing out of control trying to dribble a length of the court... is a concern.

I skipped much of the game but he put up 19 pts, 6 rebounds and 2 steals in 24 mins. He shot above 50% which was better than any Warriors starter and best on the team out of any player who took 10+ shots. He had just 1 turnover so he couldn’t have been all that “erratic”. His first ever game against NBA players after no summer league, no preseason, nothing.

Most impressive part of his game was that he went to the FT line 8 times. Crazy that a high drafted rookie big is capable of drawing contact and getting to the line, I thought that never happens.

[Saberestar]

Wiseman thinks he's Giannis out there.. but looking erratic and out of control... usually a problem with young wings, but a 7 footer playing out of control trying to dribble a length of the court... is a concern.

I skipped much of the game but he put up 19 pts, 6 rebounds and 2 steals in 24 mins. He shot above 50% which was better than any Warriors starter and best on the team out of any player who took 10+ shots. He had just 1 turnover so he couldn’t have been all that “erratic”. His first ever game against NBA players after no summer league, no preseason, nothing.

Most impressive part of his game was that he went to the FT line 8 times. Crazy that a high drafted rookie big is capable of drawing contact and getting to the line, I thought that never happens.

He did much of his stats in garbage time.

I watched the game and I thought that he was terrible. But just his first game, so it is OK.

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[bwgood77]

Outside of Curry they just aren't that good, especially their bench which is going to get proper **** most nights in the brutal ass west.

I was lower on this team even with Klay. Without him I legit think they could finish last in the West.

Edit: 14th actually, OKC is tanking from day 1 so probably hard to get under them.

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I will be surprised if they are THAT bad. I mean a lot of people liked Oubre a lot and he does have some skills, though if he moved the ball better and shot a little better from 3 that would help their offense. Though he did shoot over 35% last year which isn't that bad.

I am not sure who their other best 3 pt shooter is..looks like they all shot 33-36% last year, but whoever shoots best now, unless they are a scrub, I'd probably start and maybe bring Wiggins off the bench.

But either way, I probably would not start Draymond and Wiseman together and would bring Wiseman off the bench

Draymond should help with his defense and playmaking, as long as they don't play him with Wiseman, unless one of them has a legit 3. Draymond hasn't shot well from 3 since 15-16 though.

I think Klay would help a ton though..as he would HAVE to be guarded and with him and Curry so good at shooting the 3, even off the dribble, it would make them significantly tougher and they'd have a pretty legit lineup with them two, Draymond, Wiggins and Oubre.

I like Oubre and think he'll put up career numbers.

It's a bold pick to say they will be that bad but I'm calling my shot. I see lots of problems m They really need another guard who can take some pressure off Curry. Teams are going to key so much on Steph I think it wears him down. Wiggins is inconsistent. I don't think Green is going to age well. Wiseman could be good but rookie bigs typically take a little time. The 3pt shooting is sketchy after Curry. And last but certainly not least is they have to play too many bad players when they go to the bench or have any injuries. Weve seen with the suns in the past when you play bad players even limited minutes it just murders you in the deep west.

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I guess it depends on how we define bad. I do expect without Klay for Memphis and NOP to finish ahead of them. Kings will be close...I might lean Kings, but I think both teams will be good, just not good enough to compete very well for the 8th spot. I do think all 4 of those teams will be in the running for the play in game, and possibly Memphis and NOP for the 8th if Houston trades Harden for more young guys, but also Boogie is playing well and with him, Wall, Wood, Tucker and Gordon they have a pretty solid starting lineup even without Harden.

I expect GS to be better than the TWolves, Thunder and probably the Spurs, but the Spurs do have a few nice vets with LMA, DD and DW. It may depend on how well Murray, Vassell, Walker and Poetl do.

Then for GS it will depend on Wiseman and if Green comes back to his previous play which I think he will. A lot lies on Wiggins and Oubre fitting more into their system and having decent D though.

I think the TWolves would be FAR better with Rubio starting...like his impact would be similar to how it was for the Suns..otherwise that starting lineup is just not good defensively and too many guys only trying to score.

I'd let Beasley come off the bench with Edwards and their backup PG.

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They need to get Harden out of there. Even for a not great package.

Luckily they play OKC tonight so will face a bunch of rookies...at least they should have Gordon, Wood and Tucker. Would not have much for depth but OKC's best players would be SGA and Horford.

[Kerrsed]

Its seriously crazy how much of a cancerous Prima Donna Harden has become. If im a GM i dont want nothing to do with that on my team. Rockets bent over backwards for the kid and spoiled him everyway possible, and now future GM's will have to deal with those repercussions. Hard for a star player to have all that freedom and options and say in everything the team does, then go somewhere new and have all that power stripped away. Sad to say the only option i see working is Brooklyn, with 2 other superstar players that can try to wrangle him back to reality, but even then i dont know how they could do that because it seems like Irving is almost as bad when it comes to reality and Durant kinda made things weird last night with his one word postgame answers. Reality is Harden needs other superstar players that are on his level to help reel him back in and show him how to be humble and let go of all the extracurricular activities that are starting to define him.

Still think a LeVert/Allen/Dinwiddie/Shamet/1st package is around the best return talent wise.

[bwgood77]

Wizards looking good. Bertans is the perfect counter for Westbrook's shooting.

[darealjuice]

Trae Young is so good

[bwgood77]

Josh Jackson having a pretty good game.

[Mjee]

Ricky Rubio having a game to forget ....

[bwgood77]

Ricky Rubio having a game to forget ....

Not great numbers but you never know his true impact through defense and leading the offense, even though he didn't get a lot of assists. His +/- is among the highest.

Interesting they brought Russell off the bench.

[bwgood77]

Pelicans had a very nice game from 3, on 42 shots, with both Bledsoe and Ball going 4-8 and the team shooting over 45% from 3. Ingram with a huge game. 30 assists overall.

[bwgood77]

Jamal Murray with a bad game...0-6 after 3. Jokic with a triple double already though. Millsap looking decent too...but Kings beating them.

[wheezy]

Pelicans had a very nice game from 3, on 42 shots, with both Bledsoe and Ball going 4-8 and the team shooting over 45% from 3. Ingram with a huge game. 30 assists overall.

Yeah Pels looked good. Zion had a rebound where he landed awkward and I about had a heart attack...

They lost but I thought the Wizards looked good at the start too.

[bwgood77]

I didn’t see what was said about Paul but yeah that would be an overreaction too.

And we can’t compare Rubio to CP3 this season because CP3 has the luxury of being the primary ball handler here while Rubio is like 3rd or 4th at best.

If anyone really wants to do a direct comparison then compare what Rubio did with the Suns vs what Paul is doing with the Suns.

But yes it’s dumb to start comparing and doing all that after it’s literally been one game in which we won.

Well Rubio did start tonight. DLo came off the bench. Rubio started with Beasley, Towns, Okogie and Layman. I'm pretty sure he was the primary ball handler out of that group.

I'm not the biggest DLo fan in the world, but on that team, I don't understand making him the 6th man. I wonder if it's just for the opener because it's Rubio and his history there. I have a feeling DLo will want out, and hell they may want him out, if they keep him out of the starting lineup while he's on that giant contract.

I don't know about wanting out. I think DLo is a nice sixth man but I'm guessing it was more of either trying it out or maybe he was late for practice or something. Personally I'd start Rubio and DLo, along with Okogie, Layman and Towns. Had Keita Bates Diop worked out,the defense of him and Okogie along with Rubio around DLo and Towns would have been nice.

Then you leave DLo or Rubio out there and stagger them with guys like Edwards, Culver, Juancho and Ed Davis.

I do like DLo with that group though and starting Rubio to give more D and DLo with more offense off the bench, at least until Edwards and Culver become better offensively.

Starting Beasley though with Rubio and DLo could work but then you don't have a ballhandler with the second unit unless you trust Culver to do that and maybe a bit of Edwards and maybe McLaughlin in the future.

But staggering DLo and Rubio would work the best after maybe starting them for a few minutes together.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Well Rubio did start tonight. DLo came off the bench. Rubio started with Beasley, Towns, Okogie and Layman. I'm pretty sure he was the primary ball handler out of that group.

I'm not the biggest DLo fan in the world, but on that team, I don't understand making him the 6th man. I wonder if it's just for the opener because it's Rubio and his history there. I have a feeling DLo will want out, and hell they may want him out, if they keep him out of the starting lineup while he's on that giant contract.

I don't know about wanting out. I think DLo is a nice sixth man but I'm guessing it was more of either trying it out or maybe he was late for practice or something. Personally I'd start Rubio and DLo, along with Okogie, Layman and Towns. Had Keita Bates Diop worked out,the defense of him and Okogie along with Rubio around DLo and Towns would have been nice.

Then you leave DLo or Rubio out there and stagger them with guys like Edwards, Culver, Juancho and Ed Davis.

I do like DLo with that group though and starting Rubio to give more D and DLo with more offense off the bench, at least until Edwards and Culver become better offensively.

Starting Beasley though with Rubio and DLo could work but then you don't have a ballhandler with the second unit unless you trust Culver to do that and maybe a bit of Edwards and maybe McLaughlin in the future.

But staggering DLo and Rubio would work the best after maybe starting them for a few minutes together.

DLo didn't start that game because he was late for a shoot around.

I question the fit of their roster but they certainly have some firepower and could be a decent team this year.

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