2022-23 Season Discussion and Speculation 5 - The KD era begins

Fo-Real · Post #341 » by **Fo-Real** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:13 am

**** THIS BOARD!!! All that crying for Jones to do something, THIS IS THE **** something...... AND IT SUCKS

TeamTragic · Post #342 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:20 am

Read on Twitter

Did we piss in LeBrons cheerios?

:lol:

Post #343 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:21 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Blonde wrote:All these sours takes haha. Please just be happy that we have added KD to Booker & Ayton. We just catapulted ourselves to championship favorites and some people are salty we can’t draft 4 more busts.

I don't think it's a bad trade if we are healthy and can continue to be playoff relevant until 2029. I just have seen what happens to teams who trade for older win now players. Brooklyn for one in their Boston trade. They got KD and Pierce too, to add to JJ, Deron Williams and Brook Lopez. That's even 4 depth and 5 all stars.

Then I've watched this Lakers team without the depth. And the Clips when Kawhi is out, etc.

It's just 50/50 at best we stay healthy and you typically don't trade picks past the stars expiration date...or shouldn't.

That Boston-Brooklyn trade was the first that came to mind. Brooklyn was F'd for like half a decade

It appeared they would be worse and did pretty well getting Russell then drafting Dinwiddie, Allen, LeVert, etc.

But both Tatum and Jaylen Brown are players that they got from Nets picks. So the Nets may end up with their own Tatum and Brown from us in 27 and 29 (or earlier if KD has a big injury or whatever or our age shows more quickly than Ishbia anticipated).

Post #344 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:22 am

Think I've experienced enough emotions for the day. I need a break

Will have a couple of these bad boys tonight. Cheers to Mikal :beer:

See you tomorrow

BurningHeart · Post #345 » by **BurningHeart** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:23 am

TeamTragic wrote:

Read on Twitter

Did we piss in LeBrons cheerios?

Hopefully all the Laker fans go into oncoming traffic at this news.

Even though oncoming traffic in LA is 3 miles per hour at best.

sasquatchBob · Post #346 » by **sasquatchBob** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:23 am

We have sold our soul for a chance at ring this season

sasquatchBob · Post #347 » by **sasquatchBob** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:24 am

And how the **** did Ainge not fleece Lakers and they ended up with Beasley, Vanderbilt and Russell. Perfect trade for them...

TeamTragic · Post #348 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:24 am

I see that Celtics fans are saying Brown/etc would have been a better deal but he is due for a payday.

Bridges/CamJo are a better combo IMO

Post #349 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:25 am

Qwigglez wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:You know what team has a TON of nice pieces and picks for a blockbuster trade or two now? Brooklyn.

It will be funny when the reroute Crowder somewhere for something solid immediately.

Except the Rockets own their 2024 and 2026 pick from the Harden deal so the Nets have to at least try to stay a decent team. And I think they can do that with Bridges, Cam Johnson. Ben Simmons actually has shooters around him, he is in a prime position with no pressure to succeed now. This is probably the best thing for the Nets.

Yeah a bit peeved about Crowder. I feel the Suns could have traded Dario instead and still got an asset for Crowder. Even the Bucks deal wouldn't have been so bad at this point with this trade going down. Or man... if the Wizards could have waited we could have done a three team trade where the Wiz get 3 2nd round picks, whatever from the Bucks, and the Suns get Rui.

I think the Nets are solid. Especially if Cam Thomas is a rising star. You have him, Bridges, Cam Johnson, Dinwiddie, DFS, O'Neale, Claxton and Ben Simmons along with Seth Curry, Joe Harris, Patty Mills, etc. They have TONS of shooting and defense around Cam Thomas (and Simmons) and a decent big. I won't be surprised if they are a fun team with Cam Thomas, Bridges, CamJ, etc.

WG-your "surround Ben Simmons with shooters" experience is here. They can go Simmons/Cam Thomas/Bridges/Cam Johnson/Joe Harris/DFS/O'Neale/Curry.

They can withstand an injury or two and still be ok.

TeamTragic · Post #350 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:25 am

sasquatchBob wrote:And how the **** did Ainge not fleece Lakers and they ended up with Beasley, Vanderbilt and Russell. Perfect trade for them...

Ainge always wins trades. I guess we wait for the inevitable surprise :lol:

Post #351 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:27 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:Still have 2024, 2026 which are swap eligible

I can't imagine Jones or Ishbia thinking picks in the next 3 years are what is going to get us over the line so they have 12 hours to use them.

Well if you are expecting those picks to be worse than Brooklyn's that's not good. Hopefully we are not in a position in 24 or 26 where the Nets would have swapped picks with us because ours is higher.

Post #352 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:29 am

TeamTragic wrote:

Read on Twitter

He said it was a done deal before they started talking! This guy IS good. Flex said it was a done deal on July 4th and to expect fireworks in the valley soon......he is DAMN good.

TeamTragic · Post #353 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:30 am

Welcome to the Ishbia era everyone!

Blonde · Post #354 » by **Blonde** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:33 am

How do people view this trade package compared to the likes of Gobert, Paul George, and Anthony Davis? We’ll see how the picks play out but my initial reaction is we paid the least out of these recent blockbusters.

Post #355 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:33 am

Ghost of Kleine wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:I give credit to Jones for keeping 2 of our picks, Brooklyn had every right to just say all of them or not happening.

Which picks did we keep?

Read on Twitter

24', 26', and maybe 28' (a pick swap option). So again, we'll really need to hit on our 2nds this summer. And also in the draft in 24 to replenish young cost controlled talent supplemental to our core. I've already scouted all the elite defenders in the 2nd round range, including some very comparable to Nikal Bridges and Herb Jones already. I've also already scouted the most potent scorer/shot creators and point of attack defenders in the 2nd round within our range. So IF it comes down to that critical necessity, I'll have info ready!

That's not really keeping picks. It's keeping swap rights but holy hell if we are in a position where Brooklyn is better than us in 24 and 26 that's not good. But we saw it happen with Boston and Brooklyn so who knows. They do have the swap in 28...I'm sure they wanted that given they have Cam Thomas, Mikal and a bunch of young players and picks and we will be slowly getting worse the rest of the decade.

DRK · Post #356 » by **DRK** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:33 am

TeamTragic wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:So assume we go with a 9 man playoff rotation:

Paul, Booker, Craig, Durant, Ayton
Payne, Lee, Warren, Biyombo

I'm not going to lie. This looks pretty damn amazing.

If TJ turns back into Bubble TJ, we scoring 150 a night. Lol

Tj is going to get so many easy buckets off 45 and backdoor cuts playing alonside KD, Book and CP3.

Post #357 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:35 am

matt131 wrote:what's the rule with trading consecutive picks? Is it that you can't trade consecutive picks in the SAME deal, or just not at all?

Because if we legally can use '24 and '26, we unfortunately need to use them to upgrade depth for sure

We can trade them, at least not before the draft...fortunately. We will need some rookie deals. Hopefully we have a good scouting department by next summer.

Revived · Post #358 » by **Revived** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:35 am

lilfishi22 wrote:Think I've experienced enough emotions for the day. I need a break

Will have a couple of these bad boys tonight. Cheers to Mikal

See you tomorrow

Yeah I need to step away for a bit as well. Maybe this is a fantastic trade and it’s just the emotions of it right now that’s getting me. Hate being too invested emotionally in sports especially when my two favorite teams are Chargers/Suns as both are probably top 3 in their league’s history in being disappointing franchises. Yet I still keep doing it because I’m an idiot.

Bridges was the first Suns player I truly liked a lot since Nash/Bell.

It is what it is. Hope it works and wish Mikal the best in NY. All class, all professional and great teammate. What a player.

Desertfox · Post #359 » by **Desertfox** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:36 am

How soon until KD starts posting here?

Post #360 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:37 am

matt131 wrote:
lilfishi22 wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:

Read on Twitter

24', 26', and maybe 28' (a pick swap option). So again, we'll really need to hit on our 2nds this summer. And also in the draft in 24 to replenish young cost controlled talent supplemental to our core. I've already scouted all the elite defenders in the 2nd round range, including some very comparable to Nikal Bridges and Herb Jones already. I've also already scouted the most potent scorer/shot creators and point of attack defenders in the 2nd round within our range. So IF it comes down to that critical necessity, I'll have info ready!

You know I don't care about 2nds but the point stands. This is it. This us going all-in. Mortgaging our future for a title. We have to win it all this year or the next

lol Ishbia literally said TODAY that he wasn't going to do that

That is funny he said that and then did what he did.

What do you think our chances are of winning the West and the Championship if we win the West?