2020 Season/Offseason (FA/Trade) Speculation - the Season Resumes

[Mr Puddles]

I like Cam Payne in the exact role he had in the bubble. Microwave off the bench. As a starter, no thanks! I really like Rubio in PHX. They were really good with him while healthy. Trading him away for a rickety old CP3 that's hanging off the precipice.... no thanks.

Rickety old CP3 who finished 7th in MVP voting, was NBA All second team, and was healthier than Rubio this past season. We're taking a health risk either way, if Chris Paul stays healthy though his impact will be much greater than if Ricky stays healthy.

For 40 million per year. Rubio is 30, CP3 is what? 35, 36 when the season starts. At some point age hits with the amount of minutes he's played. I am slightly biased, however. CP3 is literally my least favorite player in the league. I can't take a full season of having to see his stupid whiny face every single game, let alone his shameful flopping routines. I also think his name recognition plays a role in his accolades at this point in his career. I just think it's a risky move that can really be detrimental to the team's chemistry. Rubio, by all accounts, was the positive voice in bringing everyone together. CP3 just seems like a little bitch.

I'm not sure if I agree with the name recognition over production agreement to be honest. Paul joined an OKC squad that was projected to be a lottery team and took them to the playoffs pretty comfortably.

I also think his contract situation is overblown a bit, I don't see any big free agents that the suns would miss out on by having Paul on the books instead of Ricky or Kelly. His contract only has two years remaining on it as well, which makes the risk much lower. Even if things don't work out, the final year of an expiring contract can be traded way (or bought out) quite easily.

I like Kelly Oubre, but he's probably the most expendable of our core players. We already have bridges and Johnson to take his place, and with the 10th pick we can draft a replacement: one of Vassell, Okoro, Pat Williams, or Bey will still available at that spot.

Adding Paul is definitely a risk, but I see it as a risk worth taking. If he can come close to replicating the season he had last year, the suns should be a lock for the playoffs IMO.

[Kerrsed]

Are there Jrue trade rumors? Why not go after him instead? Lets get the best defensive PG in the league, not the most expensive one.

Because he isnt a PG.

He refuses to play PG and run the offense.

Seriously, its on record, he absolutely refuses.

[Qwigglez]

Initially I really didn't like this trade rumor, but I'm warming up to the idea. I still think it's a huge risk with CP3's injury concern. Mostly, I'll hate this trade if it turns out Oubre goes to Dallas or even OKC. I'll be okay trading Oubre to the Eastern Conference but I'm not sure how likely that would happen.
All in all I'm torn on the idea. I really liked the versatility of having 3 key wing players that can play both 3/4 in Oubre, Bridges, and Cam. I do think Dorian Finney Smith would be an excellent cheaper player to plug into a similar role that Oubre had, and that would make this trade easier to swallow. Though, again, I don't want to see Oubre on the Mavs with Luka and KP.

[TeamTragic]

Initially I really didn't like this trade rumor, but I'm warming up to the idea. I still think it's a huge risk with CP3's injury concern. Mostly, I'll hate this trade if it turns out Oubre goes to Dallas or even OKC. I'll be okay trading Oubre to the Eastern Conference but I'm not sure how likely that would happen.
All in all I'm torn on the idea. I really liked the versatility of having 3 key wing players that can play both 3/4 in Oubre, Bridges, and Cam. I do think Dorian Finney Smith would be an excellent cheaper player to plug into a similar role that Oubre had, and that would make this trade easier to swallow. Though, again, I don't want to see Oubre on the Mavs with Luka and KP.

Paul/DFS would be nice. Any chance we keep that #10 pick?

[Saberestar]

Initially I really didn't like this trade rumor, but I'm warming up to the idea. I still think it's a huge risk with CP3's injury concern. Mostly, I'll hate this trade if it turns out Oubre goes to Dallas or even OKC. I'll be okay trading Oubre to the Eastern Conference but I'm not sure how likely that would happen.
All in all I'm torn on the idea. I really liked the versatility of having 3 key wing players that can play both 3/4 in Oubre, Bridges, and Cam. I do think Dorian Finney Smith would be an excellent cheaper player to plug into a similar role that Oubre had, and that would make this trade easier to swallow. Though, again, I don't want to see Oubre on the Mavs with Luka and KP.

In that scenario the Mavs would get Oubre trading DFS and #18?

Oubre would be a nice scoring option on the Mavs.

DFS is a decent role player on a good contract, but I do not know if he would go to the Thunder or the Suns.

[sunsbg]

Initially I really didn't like this trade rumor, but I'm warming up to the idea. I still think it's a huge risk with CP3's injury concern. Mostly, I'll hate this trade if it turns out Oubre goes to Dallas or even OKC. I'll be okay trading Oubre to the Eastern Conference but I'm not sure how likely that would happen.
All in all I'm torn on the idea. I really liked the versatility of having 3 key wing players that can play both 3/4 in Oubre, Bridges, and Cam. I do think Dorian Finney Smith would be an excellent cheaper player to plug into a similar role that Oubre had, and that would make this trade easier to swallow. Though, again, I don't want to see Oubre on the Mavs with Luka and KP.

Curious if those here who don't like Oubre will suddenly start fearing he turns into an All-Star playing with Luka, similar to players traded in the past. (Warren...Bender )

Paul is a risk because of injury history and not much time to build chemistry with the team in a shortened (pre)season, but there is no other choice than to warm-up to the trade if that happens, I guess.

[nevetsov]

Another reason I don't like this trade - in two years' time, Ricky will still be a quality starter. We could probably get another 3-4 years out of him. I very much doubt at 37-38 CP3 will give us the same.

[suns12345]

Initially I really didn't like this trade rumor, but I'm warming up to the idea. I still think it's a huge risk with CP3's injury concern. Mostly, I'll hate this trade if it turns out Oubre goes to Dallas or even OKC. I'll be okay trading Oubre to the Eastern Conference but I'm not sure how likely that would happen.
All in all I'm torn on the idea. I really liked the versatility of having 3 key wing players that can play both 3/4 in Oubre, Bridges, and Cam. I do think Dorian Finney Smith would be an excellent cheaper player to plug into a similar role that Oubre had, and that would make this trade easier to swallow. Though, again, I don't want to see Oubre on the Mavs with Luka and KP.

Curious if those here who don't like Oubre will suddenly start fearing he turns into an All-Star playing with Luka, similar to players traded in the past. (Warren...Bender )

Paul is a risk because of injury history and not much time to build chemistry with the team in a shortened (pre)season, but there is no other choice than to warm-up to the trade if that happens, I guess.

I did enjoy watching oubre irrespective of what his actual basketball impact was.

[jsierra1985]

boggles my mind that fans do not want CP3 here...worried about money on the contracts worried about draft picks ....at the end of the day the main priority is keeping devin booker happy. If we stand put with our current roster and miss the playoffs which is a possibility booker is basically out the door and i would not even be mad at him for it like at all. Cp3 might be an older player but he is still better than most PG's in the league and it showed last year what he did in OKC. YES our bubble run was fun but we went undefeated during that time and still missed the playoffs...dont let that fool you...we need a big time player here to have a chance...playoffs with this current roster is a HUGE HUGE risk....

[Revived]

Oubre is the most overhated player the Suns have had in some time. The guy isn’t as bad as people make it seem.

He’s the only player that can create his own shot on the team (besides Book). He plays with lot of energy and is a decent rebounder. Only 25 yrs old so plenty of time to improve on things like 3pt shooting.

I’d love to have Oubre as a bench scorer that just comes out firing.

[sunsbg]

boggles my mind that fans do not want CP3 here...worried about money on the contracts worried about draft picks ....at the end of the day the main priority is keeping devin booker happy. If we stand put with our current roster and miss the playoffs which is a possibility booker is basically out the door and i would not even be mad at him for it like at all. Cp3 might be an older player but he is still better than most PG's in the league and it showed last year what he did in OKC. YES our bubble run was fun but we went undefeated during that time and still missed the playoffs...dont let that fool you...we need a big time player here to have a chance...playoffs with this current roster is a HUGE HUGE risk....

The playoffs were missed mainly because of Ayton's suspension and injuries to players who were not even 35yo. Signing Paul is a greater gamble.

[BobbieL]

boggles my mind that fans do not want CP3 here...worried about money on the contracts worried about draft picks ....at the end of the day the main priority is keeping devin booker happy. If we stand put with our current roster and miss the playoffs which is a possibility booker is basically out the door and i would not even be mad at him for it like at all. Cp3 might be an older player but he is still better than most PG's in the league and it showed last year what he did in OKC. YES our bubble run was fun but we went undefeated during that time and still missed the playoffs...dont let that fool you...we need a big time player here to have a chance...playoffs with this current roster is a HUGE HUGE risk....

The thing with Paul - is what other players do you get.

In that proposed trade by Kerrsed, adding DFS and WCS too me were good gets - even if that meant dropping 8 picks in the first round. Oubre and PatBev going to Dallas - that helps them. I do think Rubio helps the Suns. But CP3 might help get other players Rubio doesn't. I am still not sold on it from an age factor but I will just see - if it happens, what the final trade is.

[King4Day]

Are there Jrue trade rumors? Why not go after him instead? Lets get the best defensive PG in the league, not the most expensive one.

Because he isnt a PG.

He refuses to play PG and run the offense.

Seriously, its on record, he absolutely refuses.

Not to mention that the same package won't net us Jrue. If we're prepared to offer Bridges and the 10 too, then NO will be listening.

[King4Day]

Flex' podcast made him sound legit. I don't think there's any chance this deal doesn't happen.
For those upset about it, it may be time to start coming to peace with it.

[NavLDO]

F*ck grandpa CP3. I'm not okay with this trade. Guarantee he falls apart from a heliflopter the first game in PHX and then we're left with Ty Jerome.

I like Cam Payne in the exact role he had in the bubble. Microwave off the bench. As a starter, no thanks! I really like Rubio in PHX. They were really good with him while healthy. Trading him away for a rickety old CP3 that's hanging off the precipice.... no thanks.

You're looking at it all wrong. With CP3 here, we look better on paper, and that's all that matters...

Rubio @ $17M ... vs ... Chris Paul @ $41M. For those who are not math savvy, that's Paul at 2.5x the salary of Rubio...is he 2.5x the better player?? Just look at least year's numbers for both--Rubio had a career year, and Paul showed signs of regression. Why are we wanting to pay $24M more, for, at best, a potentially marginal improvement? And then, at end of next season (possibly sooner...who knows how long a 36YO PG will last), we'll be scrambling, yet again, for a decent PG.

And I'll mention it again...with all the young talent we are trying to develop (Ayton, Cam, Bridges, Jerome...), why are we bringing in, yet another, starting PG.

But hey!! Our team sure will look sexy on paper; this trade puts us in the 'paper' top 8 in the Western Conference--Woo Hoo!! Too bad this is the 35YO Paul, and not the 25YO Paul.

[Fo-Real]

Clippers will most likely have to give up paul George to get Paul. So we can take him cuz he’s not going back to okc

George aint comin here.

[Saberestar]

Watch on YouTube

This vid explains why Paul is so deadly in the pick&roll.

Nowadays a lot of teams are switching everything but CP3 is the best mid range shooter in the entire NBA and he gets advantage of those switches easily. He is the best creating his own mid range shot.

Ayton would get better shots with him. If Paul finally arrives to the team that two man game will be so fun to watch.

[Fo-Real]

Its like people forgot that Rubio made this team better

I agree, loved what Ricky and Kelly bring. But you can also look at this as selling high. They both probably just had their best season and their values are as high as they will ever be.

[jsierra1985]

The suns should be in win now mode...if the pick of this years draft is a must to get cp3 to phx then do it and dont think twice. The chances of that rookie making an impact this year and next are way WAY less than cp3 getting the suns into the playoffs....we have our core in place and under contract....its time to go all in and bring in a player that we know can get us over the hump...i could careless about draft picks or what he is owed the next two years....get him here and take the risk of seeing what a cp3/booker backcourt can look like

[BobbieL]

The suns should be in win now mode...if the pick of this years draft is a must to get cp3 to phx then do it and dont think twice. The chances of that rookie making an impact this year and next are way WAY less than cp3 getting the suns into the playoffs....we have our core in place and under contract....its time to go all in and bring in a player that we know can get us over the hump...i could careless about draft picks or what he is owed the next two years....get him here and take the risk of seeing what a cp3/booker backcourt can look like

I disgree about the pick. I think you need players on the roster on rookie deals. In the trade Kerrsed proposed, Suns drop from 10 to 18 - I can live with that. But I want a FRP . The Suns are taking on that contract, that should count for something!

But if CP3 can make Booker, Ayton, Cam and Mikal better - look what he did in OKC - maybe he can do the same in Phoenix. If CP3 can get the Suns the playoffs the next two years - thats the goal right there. And improving the young core.

If Paul is better equipped to take Ayton to another level - that has to be a part of the process. Though I was very comfortable running back the team from the Summer but adding a 2G and maybe a new 4 too. I like Rubio.