Game 56: Phoenix Suns (29-26) @ Chicago Bulls (34-21)

In Len We Trust · Post #361 » by **In Len We Trust** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:34 am

I am so sick and tired on Hornacek smiling 300 times in every post game interview after we lose.

Post #362 » by **batsmasher** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:39 am

In Len We Trust wrote:I am so sick and tired on Hornacek smiling 300 times in every post game interview after we lose.

That could be because unlike us fans, he has realistic expectations of the team.

In Len We Trust · Post #363 » by **In Len We Trust** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:44 am

batsmasher wrote:
In Len We Trust wrote:I am so sick and tired on Hornacek smiling 300 times in every post game interview after we lose.

That could be because unlike us fans, he doesn't give a **** and accepts mediocrity.

I agree

NTB · Post #364 » by **NTB** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:44 am

PJ Tucker with 20 points kinda funny.

In Len We Trust · Post #365 » by **In Len We Trust** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:45 am

It would be nice if Hornacek could go a single game without screwing something up. I wonder how far he digs this franchise into the ground until he finally gets canned?

Revived · Post #366 » by **Revived** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:48 am

ginobiliflops wrote:
Cutter wrote:I still don't see Markieff as the long term answer at PF.

31 last night. Be more reactionary.

He's hella inconsistent and doesn't rebound or defend well.

He's only a scorer and even at that he's super inconsistent.

letsgosuns · Post #367 » by **letsgosuns** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:48 am

RunDogGun wrote:
Flying Colors wrote:On the bright side, Archie looked pretty good offensively

And he is hustling defensively. It makes it easier to leave him on the court. I'm glad he got all that time in the DLeague, he seems like a different player from the start of the year.

Wow you are unbelievable. You know why he looks like a different player now? BECAUSE HE IS GETTING MINUTES. All this year I have been screaming to play this guy. Finally he gets minutes and everyone is like oh my, where did Goodwin come from. Every time he has gone to the D-League since the start of the year he has dominated. Now Hornacek is forced to play him and look what he does. If not for the trades the Suns made, Goodwin would still be on the bench and you would still tell me I do not know what I am talking about and if he was good enough he would have earned his rotation spot by now. Huh? Isn't that right? Back to back games he has actually outshined Bledsoe. I cannot believe your comments. Why don't you look at Goodwin's game log and see how productive he has been this year when he gets at least 9 minutes. He has only played eight games this year where he had at least 9 minutes. In five of those eight games he has scored in double figures. And the most minutes he has played in a single game was yesterday when he played 21 minutes and had 12 points, 4 assists, and 3 rebounds. Those are nearly Dragic's statistics per game on the season except Dragic plays 33 minutes per game, not 21. Not to mention how exciting Goodwin is to watch. He should have been playing much earlier in the season. There is no reason why he should have been on the bench.

yoshii8 · Post #368 » by **yoshii8** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:49 am

In Len We Trust wrote:It would be nice if Hornacek could go a single game without screwing something up. I wonder how far he digs this franchise into the ground until he finally gets canned?

From an outside perspective, it seemed like it was pretty deep before he got there. Not sure he's dug it much deeper or if at all.

Glad to hear Knight played well.

JTrain · Post #369 » by **JTrain** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:57 am

I've been told Archie is a good defender. I've been told Knight is a good defender. Our defense still looks pretty bad to me.

Revived · Post #370 » by **Revived** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:59 am

letsgosuns wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:
Flying Colors wrote:On the bright side, Archie looked pretty good offensively

And he is hustling defensively. It makes it easier to leave him on the court. I'm glad he got all that time in the DLeague, he seems like a different player from the start of the year.

Wow you are unbelievable. You know why he looks like a different player now? BECAUSE HE IS GETTING MINUTES. All this year I have been screaming to play this guy. Finally he gets minutes and everyone is like oh my, where did Goodwin come from. Every time he has gone to the D-League since the start of the year he has dominated. Now Hornacek is forced to play him and look what he does. If not for the trades the Suns made, Goodwin would still be on the bench and you would still tell me I do not know what I am talking about and if he was good enough he would have earned his rotation spot by now. Huh? Isn't that right? Back to back games he has actually outshined Bledsoe. I cannot believe your comments. Why don't you look at Goodwin's game log and see how productive he has been this year when he gets at least 9 minutes. He has only played eight games this year where he had at least 9 minutes. In five of those eight games he has scored in double figures. And the most minutes he has played in a single game was yesterday when he played 21 minutes and had 12 points, 4 assists, and 3 rebounds. Those are nearly Dragic's statistics per game on the season except Dragic plays 33 minutes per game, not 21. Not to mention how exciting Goodwin is to watch. He should have been playing much earlier in the season. There is no reason why he should have been on the bench.

RunDogGun has some weird love affair with the D league, the dude literally thinks every player only improves by playing in the D league.

There's a reasons why Goodwin himself has been saying that he wants minutes and even almost demanded a trade....it's because he can play!!

I really like how Goodwin's been coming along. This is why I've been saying all season long that he should get playing time over Green.

RunDogGun · Post #371 » by **RunDogGun** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:02 am

letsgosuns wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:
Flying Colors wrote:On the bright side, Archie looked pretty good offensively

And he is hustling defensively. It makes it easier to leave him on the court. I'm glad he got all that time in the DLeague, he seems like a different player from the start of the year.

Wow you are unbelievable. You know why he looks like a different player now? BECAUSE HE IS GETTING MINUTES. All this year I have been screaming to play this guy. Finally he gets minutes and everyone is like oh my, where did Goodwin come from. Every time he has gone to the D-League since the start of the year he has dominated. Now Hornacek is forced to play him and look what he does. If not for the trades the Suns made, Goodwin would still be on the bench and you would still tell me I do not know what I am talking about and if he was good enough he would have earned his rotation spot by now. Huh? Isn't that right? Back to back games he has actually outshined Bledsoe. I cannot believe your comments. Why don't you look at Goodwin's game log and see how productive he has been this year when he gets at least 9 minutes. He has only played eight games this year where he had at least 9 minutes. In five of those eight games he has scored in double figures. And the most minutes he has played in a single game was yesterday when he played 21 minutes and had 12 points, 4 assists, and 3 rebounds. Those are nearly Dragic's statistics per game on the season except Dragic plays 33 minutes per game, not 21. Not to mention how exciting Goodwin is to watch. He should have been playing much earlier in the season. There is no reason why he should have been on the bench.

He got a ton of minutes in the DLeague, and it paid off. He looked bad this summer and at the beginning of the year. He earned his minutes. He is much more in control. You don't get that way just because you get minutes in the NBA. You can try and ignore all the work he he put in the DLeague, but that is very naive of you.

And have you looked at his game logs this season? Strange you didn't mention the most minutes before last night with 18 minutes and 5 points. Research your crap before you spew it at me thank you. But I'm so glad you got the other goofs here to and1 you. :lol:

In Len We Trust · Post #372 » by **In Len We Trust** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:02 am

JTrain wrote:I've been told Archie is a good defender. I've been told Knight is a good defender. Our defense still looks pretty bad to me.

What if I told you Longabardi's defense sucks?

SunsFanSSOL · Post #373 » by **SunsFanSSOL** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:03 am

JTrain wrote:I've been told Archie is a good defender. I've been told Knight is a good defender. Our defense still looks pretty bad to me.

It's the twins.

Revived · Post #374 » by **Revived** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:05 am

sunsfever68 wrote:I think the issue most have with Jeff is he shows no emotion out there it's like he's not coaching at all and just letting the players run wild and do whatever they want to do. He doesn't call timeouts when he needs to do either to stop the bleeding and momentum

We talk so about whether players want to be here or not....are we sure that Hornacek even wants to be here?

RunDogGun · Post #375 » by **RunDogGun** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:06 am

JTrain wrote:I've been told Archie is a good defender. I've been told Knight is a good defender. Our defense still looks pretty bad to me.

They both move very well on defense. Both seem very focused. It's very tough to judge them right now, but from what I've seen I like the effort and hustle out of both. Plus it's almost impossible to blame their defense, when Noah and even Gibson do illegal screens all game to get the guards open.

MMyhre · Post #376 » by **MMyhre** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:07 am

Jdiddy701 wrote:Great game!! Suns look a lot better as a group now without IT and Goran.

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You would probably say this after 50 losses in a row, some **** weird opinions on basketball in here lol.

Revived · Post #377 » by **Revived** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:07 am

JTrain wrote:I've been told Archie is a good defender. I've been told Knight is a good defender. Our defense still looks pretty bad to me.

The defensive system in place blows plus the Morris twins and Green are all some of the worst defenders to ever play for this franchise.

letsgosuns · Post #378 » by **letsgosuns** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:08 am

JTrain wrote:I've been told Archie is a good defender. I've been told Knight is a good defender. Our defense still looks pretty bad to me.

The Suns have some good individual defenders but the problem is the team defense is bad. A big reason for that is the fact that Markieff Morris a terrible defender and rebounder. It is hard to play a complete defensive possession when your power forward is soft and cannot rebound. The same thing happened with the Nash Suns teams. Shawn Marion and Raja Bell were fantastic defenders (especially Marion) yet the team was always a very bad defensive team. We all know Nash was a really bad defender but Amare was an awful defender and also not a good rebounder. It is incredibly difficult to be a good defensive team when you have such a weak link on the interior like Markieff is now and Amare was then.

JTrain · Post #379 » by **JTrain** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:11 am

In Len We Trust wrote:
JTrain wrote:I've been told Archie is a good defender. I've been told Knight is a good defender. Our defense still looks pretty bad to me.

What if I told you Longabardi's defense sucks?

Is this a 30 for 30?

letsgosuns · Post #380 » by **letsgosuns** » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:15 am

RunDogGun wrote:
letsgosuns wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:And he is hustling defensively. It makes it easier to leave him on the court. I'm glad he got all that time in the DLeague, he seems like a different player from the start of the year.

Wow you are unbelievable. You know why he looks like a different player now? BECAUSE HE IS GETTING MINUTES. All this year I have been screaming to play this guy. Finally he gets minutes and everyone is like oh my, where did Goodwin come from. Every time he has gone to the D-League since the start of the year he has dominated. Now Hornacek is forced to play him and look what he does. If not for the trades the Suns made, Goodwin would still be on the bench and you would still tell me I do not know what I am talking about and if he was good enough he would have earned his rotation spot by now. Huh? Isn't that right? Back to back games he has actually outshined Bledsoe. I cannot believe your comments. Why don't you look at Goodwin's game log and see how productive he has been this year when he gets at least 9 minutes. He has only played eight games this year where he had at least 9 minutes. In five of those eight games he has scored in double figures. And the most minutes he has played in a single game was yesterday when he played 21 minutes and had 12 points, 4 assists, and 3 rebounds. Those are nearly Dragic's statistics per game on the season except Dragic plays 33 minutes per game, not 21. Not to mention how exciting Goodwin is to watch. He should have been playing much earlier in the season. There is no reason why he should have been on the bench.

He got a ton of minutes in the DLeague, and it paid off. He looked bad this summer and at the beginning of the year. He earned his minutes. He is much more in control. You don't get that way just because you get minutes in the NBA. You can try and ignore all the work he he put in the DLeague, but that is very naive of you.

Earned his minutes? What are you talking about. He is playing now because Hornacek has to play him because he is the only backup point guard on the team, not because of what he did in the D-league. If Dragic and Thomas were still on the team, he would not be playing. He is much more in control now too because he knows he is not coming out of the game if he makes a mistake. He is playing relaxed. That is the way it should have been from the start. And by your logic about the D-League, the Suns might as well send Bledsoe down there to work on being out of control and cutting down his turnovers and Markieff down there to work on his defense and rebounding. Give me a break. Archie played in the D-league enough last year.