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Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4)

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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#361 » by TeamTragic » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:07 am

letsgosuns wrote:Everybody played their hearts out except Markieff. He does not give a damn about this team. I cannot believe some of you guys say he is the third scorer this team needs and that you expected a big night from him. What are you looking at? Seriously, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU LOOKING AT? I have been insulted more times than I can remember since July begging for this team to trade him. Cutting him off the team would be an improvement. Not only did he have just 6 points and 5 rebounds in 29 minutes on terrible shooting and embarrassing mishandles, but everyone scored on him at will.

I am sure some of you guys will say wait he dove a couple times. He had some steals. Oh he was rusty because he has not played for a while. Wake up. Did you see when Butler hit the three over him in the corner. He ran down the court like he did not care. No emotion. The most emotion he showed all game was when he argued with the refs early in the game.

At this point, Markieff is not the disgrace. This is what he told them he was going to do. Gambo said he will make it so no one wants him. You know who is the disgrace? Ryan McDonough. You have brought shame upon this organization with your lies and you unwillingness to accept reality. Markieff drags the entire team down. I could see it in Hornacek when he almost pulled Markieff for Leuer towards the end of fourth quarter after Markieff had just come back in. What a shame. Markieff will kill this season. There is no doubt in my mind. If the Suns had a starting power forward that wanted to play, they might have won the game.


Trade Kieff to the Rockets since they are in panic mode. He sucks the life from this team and is nothing but a **** debbie downer. If he cared we would have won this game #NOMORRIS
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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#362 » by KLEON » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:07 am

GoranTragic wrote:What did I **** tell you about Kieff? 6-5-1-3 in 29 minutes. Anti-chemistry and should have started Leuer. Goodwin with only 7 minutes? Who the **** was guarding Butler? :noway: :noway: :noway:

Am I the only one who think he's a bust? Booker should get his minutes
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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#363 » by Mr Puddles » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:08 am

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Qwigglez wrote:Honestly, can't be that mad. I liked the heart and energy of the team. Our shots weren't falling, and their shots were. I mentioned earlier I won't mind losing to Jimmy Butler and Pau Gasol. Butler obviously stepped it up big time in the fourth.


I can't remember the last time I've felt this good about the team after a loss.


Same here, last year if we had shot 40% 2p, 29% 3p would have lost by 20+ points. Credit the Bulls defense, but Suns were also missing a lot of shots they would usually convert and the Bulls (Buttler) were hitting a bunch of difficult/contested shots.
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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#364 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:09 am

letsgosuns wrote:Everybody played their hearts out except Markieff. He does not give a damn about this team. I cannot believe some of you guys say he is the third scorer this team needs and that you expected a big night from him. What are you looking at? Seriously, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU LOOKING AT? I have been insulted more times than I can remember since July begging for this team to trade him. Cutting him off the team would be an improvement. Not only did he have just 6 points and 5 rebounds in 29 minutes on terrible shooting and embarrassing mishandles, but everyone scored on him at will.

I am sure some of you guys will say wait he dove a couple times. He had some steals. Oh he was rusty because he has not played for a while. Wake up. Did you see when Butler hit the three over him in the corner. He ran down the court like he did not care. No emotion. The most emotion he showed all game was when he argued with the refs early in the game.

At this point, Markieff is not the disgrace. This is what he told them he was going to do. Gambo said he will make it so no one wants him. You know who is the disgrace? Ryan McDonough. You have brought shame upon this organization with your lies and you unwillingness to accept reality. Markieff drags the entire team down. I could see it in Hornacek when he almost pulled Markieff for Leuer towards the end of fourth quarter after Markieff had just come back in. What a shame. Markieff will kill this season. There is no doubt in my mind. If the Suns had a starting power forward that wanted to play, they might have won the game.


Yeah, I admit it's getting to that time we need to get something for him. He looked pretty good at times, especially early, sticking his hand out disrupting passes but other times he looked like he didn't care. He took mostly decent shots. He looked rusty offensively, but clearly the rest of the team is FULLY vested and he is not.

I'm just not sure what we can get for him right now.
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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#365 » by Jdiddy701 » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:09 am

Also, how many open shots did Gasol have!?


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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#366 » by 8on » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:10 am

fun fact: none of our losses are to teams under .500. i care more about that than this. if you had told me that six months ago i wouldn't have believed it
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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#367 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:11 am

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GoranTragic wrote:What did I **** tell you about Kieff? 6-5-1-3 in 29 minutes. Anti-chemistry and should have started Leuer. Goodwin with only 7 minutes? Who the **** was guarding Butler? :noway: :noway: :noway:

Am I the only one who think he's a bust? Booker should get his minutes


No, he's a bust. Let him play garbage minutes and let Booker be the first guard off the bench. He made some defensive mistakes, but he will quickly learn from them, and that was from a savvy stud in Butler, catching him in the air twice.

Archie will probably get a couple more times to prove it, but clearly Booker is FAR better.
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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#368 » by SunsRback4Good » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:11 am

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GoranTragic wrote:What did I **** tell you about Kieff? 6-5-1-3 in 29 minutes. Anti-chemistry and should have started Leuer. Goodwin with only 7 minutes? Who the **** was guarding Butler? :noway: :noway: :noway:

Am I the only one who think he's a bust? Booker should get his minutes


Definitely not a bust. Prior to this season his last few years were great its just he stated he doesn't want to play for this organization and its showing dramatically in his game. We need to act fast and trade him for a PF that will put in work unlike pouty Morris that doesn't give a crap. Man, be a professional and play hard so we could get something equal in a trade for you but now his stock has gone down and we'd get lesser value.
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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#369 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:12 am

Jdiddy701 wrote:Also, how many open shots did Gasol have!?


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A lot. Most were on switches though so it was tough to do much to disrupt him.
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Post#370 » by grumpysaddle » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:12 am

I feel like the "showcasing" is starting to hurt his value more than help it. He doesn't really care if he gets traded for scraps. He'll end up with a team with pieces they didn't have to give up. He got paid... There is no motivation for him to do anything except show up. He needs to be on the bench next game, at least to start. Putting him back into the starting lineup was a slap to the face of Leuer, who has been nothing but energy and effort at all times.

I used to be a Kieff supporter, but it's time for him to GTFO.
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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#371 » by KLEON » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:12 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:I wonder if Houston will take a look at Morris.

Their new coach may want a player to play instead of waiting on Motiejunas.

I would rather a Ryan Anderson for Morris trade
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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#372 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:13 am

grumpysaddle wrote:I feel like the "showcasing" is starting to hurt his value more than help it. He doesn't really care if he gets traded for scraps. He'll end up with a team with pieces they didn't have to give up. He got paid... There is no motivation for him to do anything except show up. He needs to be on the bench next game, at least to start. Putting him back into the starting lineup was a slap to the face of Leuer, who has been nothing but energy and effort at all times.

I used to be a Kieff supporter, but it's time for him to GTFO.


Yes, I finally am feeling like you. Bring him off the bench. He may get some points and be somewhat valuable against second units, but he doesn't deserve to be out there playing starters, especially really good ones.
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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#373 » by SunsRback4Good » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:13 am

dantley4prez wrote:fun fact: none of our losses are to teams under .500. i care more about that than this. if you had told me that six months ago i wouldn't have believed it


That and are defense has improved with the addition of Tyson Chandler. We can now be in 95% of games and have a shot at winning it.
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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#374 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:13 am

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Mulhollanddrive wrote:I wonder if Houston will take a look at Morris.

Their new coach may want a player to play instead of waiting on Motiejunas.

I would rather a Ryan Anderson for Morris trade


Yes, we all would, but that's not going to happen unless they think they will lose him for nothing in the offseason and they decide to tank at some point.
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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#375 » by 8on » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:13 am

funny to hear Mark Jackson say "Devin Booker is a starting shooting guard in this league, right now." our bench is heavy, and people know it
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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#376 » by SunsRback4Good » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:14 am

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Mulhollanddrive wrote:I wonder if Houston will take a look at Morris.

Their new coach may want a player to play instead of waiting on Motiejunas.

I would rather a Ryan Anderson for Morris trade


I'd welcome it with open arms. He's a better version of Channing Frye.
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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#377 » by 8on » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:15 am

20 for PJ. figured that was coming sooner or later. he can really light it up when he wants to
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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#378 » by Jdiddy701 » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:15 am

I say Markieff gets traded mid December with Archie. For who? I have no idea.


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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#379 » by Jdiddy701 » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:16 am

dantley4prez wrote:20 for PJ. figured that was coming sooner or later. he can really light it up when he wants to


No he can't. Lol he had a good game but don't expect PJ to get 20 every game.


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Re: Game 11: Chicago Bulls (7-3) @ Phoenix Suns (6-4) 

Post#380 » by kennydorglas » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:16 am

Yeah, the best way to showcase Kieff is putting him back on his famous super-sub role.
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