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The 2020 NBA Draft

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Are you happy with the Jalen Smith pick?

Yes, without a doubt
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Yes, but I would have preferred Haliburton or Vassell or maybe Bey or Lewis
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43%
No, I would have preferred one of the above guys
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18%
No, there were at least 10 guys I would have taken over him.
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9%
 
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Post#361 » by RedIndian » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:37 am

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RedIndian wrote:Smith is strictly a 5 in the NBA. I know a lot of guys on here think he can play the 4, but he's fairly limited in putting the ball on the floor, nor is he quick enough laterally to guard wings.

I think he'll be fine at the 5. Think of him as a shorter Myles Turner or maybe a defensively better version of Thomas Bryant. My only concern with young bigs is that they take time. Smith is pretty thin, and will need to bulk up before he can handle regular NBA minutes. I'm really not expecting much more than 15 mins from him this year.

I don't like the fact that we passed up on Haliburton and Vassell. Both guys would have contributed more straight off the bat.


If we're not using him at the 4 then this pick, a 10th pick as a strict backup of your #1 overall pick who is a borderline all star at the same position, is a tire fire of inexcusability. He has to be able to play the 4 for us at least a little. A backup 5 is easy to find in FA. Hell, re-sign Baynes and use the pick on the best dude (Vassell or Haliburton) then.
I would much rather have re-signed Baynes and taken one of Haliburton or Vassell.

Baynes is a veteran bruiser and pretty skilled offensively as well. Smith is a young green kid. He's fairly athletic and has a nice stroke, but I wouldn't expect him to do any effective screening or bruising, which is exactly what you need from your backup big.

I do expect us to put him at the 4, but I think we'll realise that that's not a position he can effectively defend at in the NBA.
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Post#362 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:38 am

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AtheJ415 wrote:I watched a ton of Maryland this year. I like Smith, but not nearly this high. And before anybody says, "well Cam", yeah, Cam is a good player, but Brandon Clarke is still better and was sitting there at a position of more need. We had a boatload of guards sitting there at a position of need as dire as our PF spot, particularly if Saric is indeed being brought back.

Vassell and Haliburton were guys that would help this team more. Combo guards with playmaking ability who are not defensive liabilities are rare. Both do that.


Don't forget PJ Washington if we didn;t take Clarke. Both look a lot better than Cam considering age and performance this last season.


I like Clarke better than Cam, but he's just as old I think...or if not, he's close.
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Post#363 » by wheezy » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:38 am

Saberestar wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
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^this. Everyone assumes we had teams offering everything to trade up. Teams were probably happy where they were and so you take the guy you want at your pick, period.


Yeah, if you want a guy, pick him. Don't mess around, or as others would say, "Get cute". He fits a need, as a backup big...is a great defender and can hit the 3.

Draft for fit is always a mistake IMO.

I think Halliburton, Kira or Vassell are more talented and BPA at #10. But hopefully James Jones is right about Smith.

Especially considering any of those 3 would have been a good fit as well....
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Post#364 » by SlovenianDragon » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:38 am

Blackification wrote:What's up with "the fellas"?


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Post#365 » by wheezy » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:38 am

Qwigglez wrote:Smith looks like Ibaka and Turner.

I was thinking Larry Sanders.
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Post#366 » by Crives » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:39 am

So we really trading Ayton for Beal huh?
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Post#367 » by Revived » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:39 am

Qwigglez wrote:Thats cool....
Read on Twitter

Wait what? Is Rubio gonna be a backup there?
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Post#368 » by Crives » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:40 am

I have a feeling we trade in for Bane somehow
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Post#369 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:41 am

RedIndian wrote:
AtheJ415 wrote:
RedIndian wrote:Smith is strictly a 5 in the NBA. I know a lot of guys on here think he can play the 4, but he's fairly limited in putting the ball on the floor, nor is he quick enough laterally to guard wings.

I think he'll be fine at the 5. Think of him as a shorter Myles Turner or maybe a defensively better version of Thomas Bryant. My only concern with young bigs is that they take time. Smith is pretty thin, and will need to bulk up before he can handle regular NBA minutes. I'm really not expecting much more than 15 mins from him this year.

I don't like the fact that we passed up on Haliburton and Vassell. Both guys would have contributed more straight off the bat.


If we're not using him at the 4 then this pick, a 10th pick as a strict backup of your #1 overall pick who is a borderline all star at the same position, is a tire fire of inexcusability. He has to be able to play the 4 for us at least a little. A backup 5 is easy to find in FA. Hell, re-sign Baynes and use the pick on the best dude (Vassell or Haliburton) then.
I would much rather have re-signed Baynes and taken one of Haliburton or Vassell.

Baynes is a veteran bruiser and pretty skilled offensively as well. Smith is a young green kid. He's fairly athletic and has a nice stroke, but I wouldn't expect him to do any effective screening or bruising, which is exactly what you need from your backup big.

I do expect us to put him at the 4, but I think we'll realise that that's not a position he can effectively defend at in the NBA.


I would have rather have had Haliburton or Vassell period, even without Baynes...but yeah, Baynes would be nice to keep but I don't think either side wants that.

Jalen Smith really solidifies our frontcourt though. I think he's as good at guarding people at the 4 as Saric.
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Post#370 » by cberry78 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:42 am

Crives wrote:So we really trading Ayton for Beal huh?
:o :o

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Post#371 » by proedros1908 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:42 am

Crives wrote:I have a feeling we trade in for Bane somehow

I hope so too
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Post#372 » by Kerrsed » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:42 am

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Post#373 » by bwgood77 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:42 am

Revived wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:Thats cool....
Read on Twitter

Wait what? Is Rubio gonna be a backup there?


No, he will start with Russell and Edwards...and then probably Hernangomez..and obviously Towns.

But they also have Culver, Okogie, Spellman, Layman and James Johnson
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Post#374 » by RedIndian » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:42 am

bwgood77 wrote:
RedIndian wrote:
AtheJ415 wrote:
If we're not using him at the 4 then this pick, a 10th pick as a strict backup of your #1 overall pick who is a borderline all star at the same position, is a tire fire of inexcusability. He has to be able to play the 4 for us at least a little. A backup 5 is easy to find in FA. Hell, re-sign Baynes and use the pick on the best dude (Vassell or Haliburton) then.
I would much rather have re-signed Baynes and taken one of Haliburton or Vassell.

Baynes is a veteran bruiser and pretty skilled offensively as well. Smith is a young green kid. He's fairly athletic and has a nice stroke, but I wouldn't expect him to do any effective screening or bruising, which is exactly what you need from your backup big.

I do expect us to put him at the 4, but I think we'll realise that that's not a position he can effectively defend at in the NBA.


I would have rather have had Haliburton or Vassell period, even without Baynes...but yeah, Baynes would be nice to keep but I don't think either side wants that.

Jalen Smith really solidifies our frontcourt though. I think he's as good at guarding people at the 4 as Saric.
Except Saric isn't great defending at the 4. He gets hunted on pick and rolls. He's much better at defending the classic bigs in the post.
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Post#375 » by Young gun 6 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:43 am

Sadiq Bey still there at #18 wtf.

If Dallas take him that is an amazing fit with Luka and KP and steal of the draft for sure.
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Post#376 » by Saberestar » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:45 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Revived wrote:
Qwigglez wrote:Thats cool....
Read on Twitter

Wait what? Is Rubio gonna be a backup there?


No, he will start with Russell.

Edwards SF?
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Post#377 » by theSUNalsoRISES » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:45 am

RedIndian wrote:
AtheJ415 wrote:
RedIndian wrote:Smith is strictly a 5 in the NBA. I know a lot of guys on here think he can play the 4, but he's fairly limited in putting the ball on the floor, nor is he quick enough laterally to guard wings.

I think he'll be fine at the 5. Think of him as a shorter Myles Turner or maybe a defensively better version of Thomas Bryant. My only concern with young bigs is that they take time. Smith is pretty thin, and will need to bulk up before he can handle regular NBA minutes. I'm really not expecting much more than 15 mins from him this year.

I don't like the fact that we passed up on Haliburton and Vassell. Both guys would have contributed more straight off the bat.


If we're not using him at the 4 then this pick, a 10th pick as a strict backup of your #1 overall pick who is a borderline all star at the same position, is a tire fire of inexcusability. He has to be able to play the 4 for us at least a little. A backup 5 is easy to find in FA. Hell, re-sign Baynes and use the pick on the best dude (Vassell or Haliburton) then.
I would much rather have re-signed Baynes and taken one of Haliburton or Vassell.

Baynes is a veteran bruiser and pretty skilled offensively as well. Smith is a young green kid. He's fairly athletic and has a nice stroke, but I wouldn't expect him to do any effective screening or bruising, which is exactly what you need from your backup big.

I do expect us to put him at the 4, but I think we'll realise that that's not a position he can effectively defend at in the NBA.

Tough day losing out on your favourite prospect (halirburton)and knowing that means my fellow Aussie Baynes is gone. Tough day. Jones better know what he’s doing.
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Post#378 » by Ghost of Kleine » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:46 am

Crives wrote:I have a feeling we trade in for Bane somehow


I have that feeling too, Maybe around 18-20. It's weird, But no trades have been announced either. Not saying we'd trade Jalen, Because he's a great pick! But trading in for Bane ( or Terry would be the Irving on the cake. Perhaps in a Baynes sign n' trade? :dontknow:
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Post#379 » by Kerrsed » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:46 am

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Post#380 » by Slim Charless » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:47 am

:oops:
Crives wrote:So we really trading Ayton for Beal huh?
:o :o


Not funny.

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