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Post#3761 » by Saberestar » Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:00 pm

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This is an amazing find :lol: It may not be the case but still...

Wow.

And in 2018 Mikal Bridges was 2nd and Jevon Carter was 3rd.
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Post#3764 » by King4Day » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:48 pm

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Has there even been an introductory presser with Paul or any of the new guys? I'd love to see that
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Post#3765 » by Fo-Real » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:55 pm

https://youtu.be/kn4DVo8ZGW8

Motly is another big, only 6"8-6"9 big long. Looks like he has been working on his aggressiveness and power game since going to the D league, and his footwork as well, he wasn't attacking the rim like this before.
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Post#3766 » by NTB » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:56 pm

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Has there even been an introductory presser with Paul or any of the new guys? I'd love to see that


There hasn't been. I think even if they do it will be virtual. I guess they will do 1 on 1 virtual interviews which is boring compared to normal media day and introductory pressers.
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Post#3767 » by NTB » Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:57 pm

Fo-Real wrote:https://youtu.be/kn4DVo8ZGW8

Motly is another big, only 6"8-6"9 but long. Looks like he has been working on his aggressiveness and power game since going to the D league, he wasn't attacking the rim like this before.


I'm sure playing against G-League players is a confidence boost :D
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Post#3768 » by Saberestar » Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:10 pm

Fo-Real wrote:https://youtu.be/kn4DVo8ZGW8

Motly is another big, only 6"8-6"9 big long. Looks like he has been working on his aggressiveness and power game since going to the D league, and his footwork as well, he wasn't attacking the rim like this before.

I think he deserves a two-way contract. He has always intrigued me as an energy big coming from the bench.
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Post#3769 » by Fo-Real » Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:10 pm

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Fo-Real wrote:https://youtu.be/kn4DVo8ZGW8

Motly is another big, only 6"8-6"9 but long. Looks like he has been working on his aggressiveness and power game since going to the D league, he wasn't attacking the rim like this before.


I'm sure playing against G-League players is a confidence boost :D


Looks like he is averaging 20+ a game down there. Looks like he is playing the 5 but his ability to shoot and put it on the floor make him a possible 4 also. His footwork, aggressiveness and decision making look to have been a focus point of his development. He is way more adept, on balance and almost bully-ish now. With teams able to carry 17 now (is that right?) He may stick, its obvious that our front office has noticed his development.
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Post#3770 » by NTB » Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:14 pm

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Fo-Real wrote:https://youtu.be/kn4DVo8ZGW8

Motly is another big, only 6"8-6"9 but long. Looks like he has been working on his aggressiveness and power game since going to the D league, he wasn't attacking the rim like this before.


I'm sure playing against G-League players is a confidence boost :D


Looks like he is averaging 20+ a game down there. Looks like he is playing the 5 but his ability to shoot and put it on the floor make him a possible 4 also. His footwork, aggressiveness and decision making look to have been a focus point of his development. He is way more adept, on balance and almost bully-ish now. With teams able to carry 17 now (is that right?) He may stick, its obvious that our front office has noticed his development.


Jalen Smith was also mentioned a lot as a player who improved considerably year by year. I think there is a pattern here. JJ and Monty want coachable and hardworking players.
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Post#3771 » by Fo-Real » Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:19 pm

Dude I hate to be hype fore a random camp signing but this could be another really good find and pickup for this front office. I have no clue about his defense, but he is an active big with the ability to shoot threes, has a very developed post game with a good step back and footwork to get to the basket and the girth to play 4 or 5. Good find.
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Post#3772 » by Fo-Real » Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:32 pm

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Post#3773 » by NTB » Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:36 pm

Fo-Real wrote:Dude I hate to be hype fore a random camp signing but this could be another really good find and pickup for this front office. I have no clue about his defense, but he is an active big with the ability to shoot threes, has a very developed post game with a good step back and footwork to get to the basket and the girth to play 4 or 5. Good find.


I hope you are right but never trust G-League. Also I think we will keep that 1 roster slot open for trades etc. in the mid-season.

Edit: btw I would prefer Motley over D.Jones.
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Post#3774 » by Frank Lee » Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:58 pm

I see the Motley Crew is forming
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Post#3775 » by jcsunsfan » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:16 pm

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Fo-Real wrote:Dude I hate to be hype fore a random camp signing but this could be another really good find and pickup for this front office. I have no clue about his defense, but he is an active big with the ability to shoot threes, has a very developed post game with a good step back and footwork to get to the basket and the girth to play 4 or 5. Good find.


I hope you are right but never trust G-League. Also I think we will keep that 1 roster slot open for trades etc. in the mid-season.

Edit: btw I would prefer Motley over D.Jones.


We can always cut Motley or Jones if we need that roster spot.
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Post#3776 » by King4Day » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:17 pm

Thought this was interesting about Ayton and possibly not getting max.

OKC's Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Atlanta's Trae Young are candidates for the five-year, $168 million max extension. Other extension candidates (likely below the max) include Deandre Ayton, Jaren Jackson Jr., Miles Bridges, Michael Porter Jr., Mikal Bridges and Collin Sexton.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/30403374/nba-superstars-trades-teams-watch-2021-free-agency


1. We offer below the max and hope he takes it after this season.
2. If he doesn't take it, you wait a year to see what the market offers him and match if necessary.
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Post#3777 » by Fo-Real » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:26 pm

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Fo-Real wrote:Dude I hate to be hype fore a random camp signing but this could be another really good find and pickup for this front office. I have no clue about his defense, but he is an active big with the ability to shoot threes, has a very developed post game with a good step back and footwork to get to the basket and the girth to play 4 or 5. Good find.


I hope you are right but never trust G-League. Also I think we will keep that 1 roster slot open for trades etc. in the mid-season.

Edit: btw I would prefer Motley over D.Jones.


And if we are in need of a roster spot later, that is why Jones is only guaranteed like 350k. We have tradable contracts and ones that can just be cut without much collateral damage.
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Post#3778 » by Saberestar » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:39 pm

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Fo-Real wrote:Dude I hate to be hype fore a random camp signing but this could be another really good find and pickup for this front office. I have no clue about his defense, but he is an active big with the ability to shoot threes, has a very developed post game with a good step back and footwork to get to the basket and the girth to play 4 or 5. Good find.


I hope you are right but never trust G-League. Also I think we will keep that 1 roster slot open for trades etc. in the mid-season.

Edit: btw I would prefer Motley over D.Jones.


We can always cut Motley or Jones if we need that roster spot.

We have a two-way contract spot available yet, that would be perfect for Motley.

No need to use the 15th roster spot for him.
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Post#3779 » by darealjuice » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:44 pm

Ayton would be stupid to sign an extension for anything less than the max. Letting him go into RFA and chase an offer sheet is probably smart business-wise, but it's a good way of showing a player that the team doesn't really value them too. He'll get a max contract if he continues developing.

I liked Motley's game at Baylor, never saw him as much of an NBA player though. He's an average shooter at best, and he's not getting the same looks around the rim in the NBA. He'll bring energy and toughness to camp though.

We know that James Jones values demonstrated production and outside shooting, so I would assume(/hope) that BPM and 3PT% are just the publicly available stats the best correlate to their draft preferences. I would like to think we put a bit more thought into the draft than that lol.
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Post#3780 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:45 pm

King4Day wrote:Thought this was interesting about Ayton and possibly not getting max.

OKC's Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Atlanta's Trae Young are candidates for the five-year, $168 million max extension. Other extension candidates (likely below the max) include Deandre Ayton, Jaren Jackson Jr., Miles Bridges, Michael Porter Jr., Mikal Bridges and Collin Sexton.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/30403374/nba-superstars-trades-teams-watch-2021-free-agency


1. We offer below the max and hope he takes it after this season.
2. If he doesn't take it, you wait a year to see what the market offers him and match if necessary.
It's just too early to predict contracts. This coming 3rd season will matter more towards determining both Birdges and Aytons value the the past two years combined. The 3rd year is an important one for players and often when we see a leap if they are a star. Look at Booker, after his second season his numbers wouldn't have indicated he was some no brainier max guy but he took a step in year 3 and even then some nationally questioned if he was really worth a max.

Bridges is going to be a super interesting extension case. Chances are he's not going to have numbers that scream big extension but I also don't think it's a secret that he's good and impactful. I think he ends up with a pretty big contract.

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