Trade Deadline Countdown....What will we do? What should we do?

[King4Day]

When people post Brandon Knight trades, could you please explain WHY anyone would commit 56 million bucks to this guy based upon what they have seen this yr ? And please, don't defend this signing by stating how his deal will look like a bargain next yr. Over paying is still over paying.

We got him folks... get used to it.

A team like Philly needs scoring.
Philly will struggle to attract free agents after the damage Hinkie has done.
With the cap going up again this summer and I think again the following year, his contract will be more what he's worth.

Knights role isn't right with this team. He's incorrectly being asked to be our PG when he's clearly not one. Put him in a SG role with a more traditional PG and a coach can alter his game around that.
While his defense isn't great, when he played with Bledsoe, he didn't fail the way he's failing now. He was also part of the group of players who, early on before giving up, were above .500 close to a quarter of the season in.

[SideSwipe]

When people post Brandon Knight trades, could you please explain WHY anyone would commit 56 million bucks to this guy based upon what they have seen this yr ? And please, don't defend this signing by stating how his deal will look like a bargain next yr. Over paying is still over paying.

We got him folks... get used to it.

A team like Philly needs scoring.
Philly will struggle to attract free agents after the damage Hinkie has done.
With the cap going up again this summer and I think again the following year, his contract will be more what he's worth.

Knights role isn't right with this team. He's incorrectly being asked to be our PG when he's clearly not one. Put him in a SG role with a more traditional PG and a coach can alter his game around that.
While his defense isn't great, when he played with Bledsoe, he didn't fail the way he's failing now. He was also part of the group of players who, early on before giving up, were above .500 close to a quarter of the season in.

Also guys, when you are the only weapon on a team, defenses tend to collapse and pressure you more. He hasn't been able to rise above it and is trying to do too much, I think that's where he is hurting. Let's not sit here and say he doesn't have talent and is the reason we are losing though. He clearly has talent and has bailed this team out many times already and had one of the better performances in Suns history against the Lakers earlier this year. (30, 10, 15) He was also working pretty well with Bled. before he went down. His biggest knocks are that he is trying too hard and hasn't been able to bring the team together on his back to get some wins. That, however, can be said about a lot of players, even some Allstars.

I don't think he is headed anywhere unless it is for a clear, experienced upgrade or a pick/prospect that we just can't refuse. I think PHX wants to see him keep growing.

[bwgood77]

When people post Brandon Knight trades, could you please explain WHY anyone would commit 56 million bucks to this guy based upon what they have seen this yr ? And please, don't defend this signing by stating how his deal will look like a bargain next yr. Over paying is still over paying.

We got him folks... get used to it.

Who knows who might commit $56 million to him next summer? Some teams are crazy. I mean, some team handed Tyson Chandler $52 million last offseason. Some times teams are so eager to try and compete that they might lose sight of the big picture of a rebuild and commit hundreds of millions to average players, and then telling their coach to make the playoffs with these avg players.

[Damkac]

When people post Brandon Knight trades, could you please explain WHY anyone would commit 56 million bucks to this guy based upon what they have seen this yr ? And please, don't defend this signing by stating how his deal will look like a bargain next yr. Over paying is still over paying.

We got him folks... get used to it.

A team like Philly needs scoring.
Philly will struggle to attract free agents after the damage Hinkie has done.
With the cap going up again this summer and I think again the following year, his contract will be more what he's worth.

Knights role isn't right with this team. He's incorrectly being asked to be our PG when he's clearly not one. Put him in a SG role with a more traditional PG and a coach can alter his game around that.
While his defense isn't great, when he played with Bledsoe, he didn't fail the way he's failing now. He was also part of the group of players who, early on before giving up, were above .500 close to a quarter of the season in.

Also guys, when you are the only weapon on a team, defenses tend to collapse and pressure you more. He hasn't been able to rise above it and is trying to do too much, I think that's where he is hurting. Let's not sit here and say he doesn't have talent and is the reason we are losing though. He clearly has talent and has bailed this team out many times already and had one of the better performances in Suns history against the Lakers earlier this year. (30, 10, 15) He was also working pretty well with Bled. before he went down. His biggest knocks are that he is trying too hard and hasn't been able to bring the team together on his back to get some wins. That, however, can be said about a lot of players, even some Allstars.

I don't think he is headed anywhere unless it is for a clear, experienced upgrade or a pick/prospect that we just can't refuse. I think PHX wants to see him keep growing.

Don't lie to yourselves, Knight is clearly the worst player in the league. We would have to give our unprotected first for any team to even consider taking his ugly contract and that may not be enought.

[JohnWall2]

When people post Brandon Knight trades, could you please explain WHY anyone would commit 56 million bucks to this guy based upon what they have seen this yr ? And please, don't defend this signing by stating how his deal will look like a bargain next yr. Over paying is still over paying.

We got him folks... get used to it.

He's only 24 though....imagine how good he is going to be in his prime.

Right guys???.........guys?????.......

[SideSwipe]

Here is some perspective on who has been able to achieve what Brandon Knight achieved earlier this season, and why we shouldn't be all doom and gloom about him.

http://bkref.com/tiny/wNjN2

There are only 12 people on that list (since 85-86). Only Jason Kidd did it younger. Only Russell Westbrook did it with 4 steals.

Knight still has room to grow (hopefully sooner rather than later, please), and Knight may be traded, but I don't think it will be because he doesn't have talent or potential. You will not that there are no other Suns in history that have accomplished that. Food for thought.

[bwgood77]

Here is some perspective on who has been able to achieve what Brandon Knight achieved earlier this season, and why we shouldn't be all doom and gloom about him.

http://bkref.com/tiny/wNjN2

There are only 12 people on that list (since 85-86). Only Jason Kidd did it younger. Only Russell Westbrook did it with 4 steals.

Knight still has room to grow (hopefully sooner rather than later, please), and Knight may be traded, but I don't think it will be because he doesn't have talent or potential. You will not that there are no other Suns in history that have accomplished that. Food for thought.

I need as much encouragement as I can get for him, and I have hopes that he will still improve. I think he still just wants to be that star so much that he forces too much at times, and instead of trying to do too much, he should try and let the game come to him more. He has certainly shown he has great talent. If he can just hone it in a bit, play within his limits, cut out a few of the silly things he does like really long twos, overdribbling, and turnovers, than he can be a fine player.

He looked absolutely great in that game. I was posting on the general board about him that night.

[sunsbum]

Moving knight will be addition by subtraction. Sometimes players just need some new scenery, sometimes players are just not as good as you think they are when you put them under a microscope. Maybe he will turn the IQ corner one day but from what I've seen, from what the bucks and Pistons have seen, it doesn't seem likely.

[ATTL]

Any way to trade knight to Utah and get something of value back?

[alphagorilla]

Clippers doing really well without Blake Griffin, any change they might move him?

[Frank Lee]

All I am saying is we are not trading Knight. It would be an egg faced move by McDoubleTalk first of all. And frankly, look around the league and find a team that needs him at that price tag.

Knight is an investment. A risky one. Check back next yr at this time to see a return.

[bwgood77]

Any way to trade knight to Utah and get something of value back?

Man, with two rim protecting bigs with no range, and Lyles being the best rookie 3 pt shooter as of now out of rookies, they are SO set at the big positions and so raw at guard that I would try to pry away Favors, but there is likely little chance we have enough, unless we throw a ton of picks for him or Lyles. MAYBE Knight, especially if it was Favors, but without being a passer and getting those guys involved, I don't know that they'd want him. But now that Lyles looks like the real thing, there might be a better chance they move a big....they might want a big back too...like maybe Len as a backup...would you do Len, Knight, the Cleveland pick and the 2017 Miami pick for Favors?

[bwgood77]

Clippers doing really well without Blake Griffin, any change they might move him?

Zero chance. He is a legit star. They are even better with him. They want and need to compete while Paul still has game...picks do nothing for them, neither do any players we have.

[bwgood77]

All I am saying is we are not trading Knight. It would be an egg faced move by McDoubleTalk first of all. And frankly, look around the league and find a team that needs him at that price tag.

Knight is an investment. A risky one. Check back next yr at this time to see a return.

I agree, unless he can get back a major asset, that makes it look like a good move....like that very unlikely Utah trade I just mentioned....but to dump him, no chance, no way.

[saintEscaton]

Any way to trade knight to Utah and get something of value back?

Man, with two rim protecting bigs with no range, and Lyles being the best rookie 3 pt shooter as of now out of rookies, they are SO set at the big positions and so raw at guard that I would try to pry away Favors, but there is likely little chance we have enough, unless we throw a ton of picks for him or Lyles. MAYBE Knight, especially if it was Favors, but without being a passer and getting those guys involved, I don't know that they'd want him. But now that Lyles looks like the real thing, there might be a better chance they move a big....they might want a big back too...like maybe Len as a backup...would you do Len, Knight, the Cleveland pick and the 2017 Miami pick for Favors?

At the very most the Jazz would counteroffer with Rodney Hood or a heavily protected pick for Knight straight up. And that is highly unlikely/ They aren't gunna break up the best Twin Towers defensive frontcourt in the league just because of spacing issues/ wanting an upgrade over Alec Burks

[bwgood77]

Any way to trade knight to Utah and get something of value back?

Man, with two rim protecting bigs with no range, and Lyles being the best rookie 3 pt shooter as of now out of rookies, they are SO set at the big positions and so raw at guard that I would try to pry away Favors, but there is likely little chance we have enough, unless we throw a ton of picks for him or Lyles. MAYBE Knight, especially if it was Favors, but without being a passer and getting those guys involved, I don't know that they'd want him. But now that Lyles looks like the real thing, there might be a better chance they move a big....they might want a big back too...like maybe Len as a backup...would you do Len, Knight, the Cleveland pick and the 2017 Miami pick for Favors?

At the very most the Jazz would counteroffer with Rodney Hood or a heavily protected pick for Knight straight up. And that is highly unlikely/ They aren't gunna break up the best Twin Towers defensive frontcourt in the league just because of spacing issues/ wanting an upgrade over Alec Burks

I agree...the only reason I mention it is that with the emergence of Lyles it might be more probable than before, when I thought it was impossible. I like Hood, and wanted him over Ennis....another idiotic mistake by McD. I'd do that deal even though it probably wouldn't work due to cap issues....maybe get Withey back too.

[kennydorglas]

Interesting. Utah could have drafted Booker at 12.
Now they cant score and will probably sell low on his bigs to get a scorer.

[saintEscaton]

Man, with two rim protecting bigs with no range, and Lyles being the best rookie 3 pt shooter as of now out of rookies, they are SO set at the big positions and so raw at guard that I would try to pry away Favors, but there is likely little chance we have enough, unless we throw a ton of picks for him or Lyles. MAYBE Knight, especially if it was Favors, but without being a passer and getting those guys involved, I don't know that they'd want him. But now that Lyles looks like the real thing, there might be a better chance they move a big....they might want a big back too...like maybe Len as a backup...would you do Len, Knight, the Cleveland pick and the 2017 Miami pick for Favors?

At the very most the Jazz would counteroffer with Rodney Hood or a heavily protected pick for Knight straight up. And that is highly unlikely/ They aren't gunna break up the best Twin Towers defensive frontcourt in the league just because of spacing issues/ wanting an upgrade over Alec Burks

I agree...the only reason I mention it is that with the emergence of Lyles it might be more probable than before, when I thought it was impossible. I like Hood, and wanted him over Ennis....another idiotic mistake by McD. I'd do that deal even though it probably wouldn't work due to cap issues....maybe get Withey back too.

Len wouldn't see daylight on the court behind Gobert who is twice the player that he is. That Cleveland pick will be in the late 20s and the 2017 Heat pick will likely not be in the lotto either

[bwgood77]

At the very most the Jazz would counteroffer with Rodney Hood or a heavily protected pick for Knight straight up. And that is highly unlikely/ They aren't gunna break up the best Twin Towers defensive frontcourt in the league just because of spacing issues/ wanting an upgrade over Alec Burks

I agree...the only reason I mention it is that with the emergence of Lyles it might be more probable than before, when I thought it was impossible. I like Hood, and wanted him over Ennis....another idiotic mistake by McD. I'd do that deal even though it probably wouldn't work due to cap issues....maybe get Withey back too.

Len wouldn't see daylight on the court behind Gobert who is twice the player that he is. That Cleveland pick will be in the late 20s and the 2017 Heat pick will likely not be in the lotto either

Len would just be for depth for Gobert going down. Knight if they wanted a scorer (but year, Burks/Hood are probably better anyway)..they need that pure distributor like us. If they had gotten Ish they would be firmly in the playoffs. Heck maybe they can get him or Rondo.

[alphagorilla]

Portland still in the playoff mix. Looks like they are going down the same road as we instead of tanking they are winning. I know they are really high on CJ mcCollum but are they as blindsided on that 8th spot like we did. Offer them Knight,Len,Kieff for CJ and top10 protected 2016.