The Draft (Postseason Edition): 1/16/31/59 (NEW POLL)

[TheLogician]

I think many or most of those who have Doncic over Ayton would have Ayton #1 if they thought he'd be anything like Embiid. He may be like him offensively. You can't just assume a guy that was a questionable defender in college will be a legit DPOY candidate big.

I get the arguments that he has the tools to become potentially an adequate defender or maybe even a good one, but you saying that would be like someone saying "Anyone who wants Ayton over Doncic, watch Harden and tell me you'd rather have Ayton over Doncic."

Embiid was unproven on offense at Kansas. He mostly just dunked lobs. Yet now he is a two-way player. Same potential for Ayton.

Sure, I'd like to assume whoever we draft will reach one of their comp who is among the best players in the league. Those who don't want Durant, watch Porter and tell me you'd rather have _____________. For those who don't want Trae, watch Curry and tell me you'd rather have __________.

I mean that'd be great if these guys all end up superstars. But projecting one guy to be one to take him over another when people seem to compare all these guys to various league superstars is a stretch.

I mean I have those guys as pretty much a toss up, and it would be certainly hard to pass on Ayton at 1, and I have no say in the matter, so if our choice is one of Ayton/Doncic at 1/2 I'll be happy.

I wasn't even using Embiid as a comp. I said bigs are still relevant and Embiid is proving my point despite his goggle mask. There is good reason to expect Ayton to be an impactful big, so this is not a good hill to die on. Much safer assumption than your Doncic-Harden comp.

[cberry78]

Say we land the #1 pick, my question is what would it take to land #2 or #3?

#16
#31
Bucks 1st
Miami 1st
Suns 2019 1st

Would there be a team crazy enough to do that?

Thats 4 First round picks. We gamble our future for the next year (Maybe 2) that getting both Ayton and Doncic is the right thing to do and that we cant do any better in next years draft. We still have our future picks (Besides the 2019), so the Miami and Milwaukee picks are just bonuses. I think i would do this in a heartbeat, but trying to judge what other team would in the event that someone jumps ahead in the lotto and is willing to wait a few years to collect that kings ransom.

I still think our best offseason scenario would be trading back into this draft. Get one of Doncic or Ayton then get back in for Young, Bamba, Porter, or Bridges. Will cost a lot but I would be okay with that given the upside.

I'd give up the farm to get #2 or #3 (After we get #1 with our own pick).

Give up our pick next year, along with all other teams future 1sts that we own as well.

That is quite a haul you're willing to give up. I like the idea of getting back into the top end of the draft, and we certainly have the assets to do it, but I think Ayton at #1 and then back in at 5-ish to get Young wouldn't blow our wad. Plus, I'm more scared of the idea of a Euro-bust then I am of Young NOT being Curry 2.0.

[AtheJ415]

Say we land the #1 pick, my question is what would it take to land #2 or #3?

#16
#31
Bucks 1st
Miami 1st
Suns 2019 1st

Would there be a team crazy enough to do that?

Thats 4 First round picks. We gamble our future for the next year (Maybe 2) that getting both Ayton and Doncic is the right thing to do and that we cant do any better in next years draft. We still have our future picks (Besides the 2019), so the Miami and Milwaukee picks are just bonuses. I think i would do this in a heartbeat, but trying to judge what other team would in the event that someone jumps ahead in the lotto and is willing to wait a few years to collect that kings ransom.

I still think our best offseason scenario would be trading back into this draft. Get one of Doncic or Ayton then get back in for Young, Bamba, Porter, or Bridges. Will cost a lot but I would be okay with that given the upside.

I'd give up the farm to get #2 or #3 (After we get #1 with our own pick).

Give up our pick next year, along with all other teams future 1sts that we own as well.

That is quite a haul you're willing to give up. I like the idea of getting back into the top end of the draft, and we certainly have the assets to do it, but I think Ayton at #1 and then back in at 5-ish to get Young wouldn't blow our wad. Plus, I'm more scared of the idea of a Euro-bust then I am of Young NOT being Curry 2.0.

I don't think a team would just because none of those are guaranteed to end up top 5, let alone top 3. I think it might let us get back into the top 6 or so, which could get us Young if the draft falls right. Honestly, I wouldn't be opposed to taking Young even if we take Doncic.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Would we trade 3 for 10, 15, 16, 17?

[saintEscaton]

Would we trade 3 for 10, 15, 16, 17?

Do we have roster space for 4 rookies? Quality>Quantity any day of the week, especially in a top heavy draft even though the late lottery prospects are intriguing

[Mulhollanddrive]

So applying that to other teams it's probably the same answer. I don't think a team has ever made a trade (during the same year) for a top 5 pick without including an All-Star or top 9 pick in return.

[saintEscaton]

I would try to acquire a late first to try to get Khyri Thomas or Mitchell Robinson if we go with PG with the Heat pick

[bwgood77]

I would try to acquire a late first to try to get Khyri Thomas or Mitchell Robinson if we go with PG with the Heat pick

I was hoping Robinson would last to 16, but had seen him mocked in late lottery so didn't think he'd make it.

[thamadkant]

Would we trade 3 for 10, 15, 16, 17?

No.

Unless that amount of picks and a player like Warren or something could get Kawhi

[Sunzgunz]

I would try to acquire a late first to try to get Khyri Thomas or Mitchell Robinson if we go with PG with the Heat pick

I was hoping Robinson would last to 16, but had seen him mocked in late lottery so didn't think he'd make it.

Assuming Robinson were to be available at 16, and assuming we grabbed and nabbed Ayton with the #1, assuming Shai, Sexton and Trae are all gone by the number 16 (a lot of assumptions, but all possbile).

I think Mitch has steal of the draft potential and you can never have enough all-star type of players...trade bait, depth, etc.

I know this wont be a popular idea, but based on this assumption, i would contemplate a twin tower draft if i was confident it could lead to two all-star type player.

Perhaps we go from never acquiring that elusive game changing big man to getting two in the same draft.

I know this is cause for debate, and not saying i would 100% execute on it, but i would 100% consider it!

[Mulhollanddrive]

What are Robinson's hands like in the pick and roll?

If we draft Doncic he is going to be in the Capela role.

[lilfishi22]

I would try to acquire a late first to try to get Khyri Thomas or Mitchell Robinson if we go with PG with the Heat pick

I was hoping Robinson would last to 16, but had seen him mocked in late lottery so didn't think he'd make it.

Assuming Robinson were to be available at 16, and assuming we grabbed and nabbed Ayton with the #1, assuming Shai, Sexton and Trae are all gone by the number 16 (a lot of assumptions, but all possbile).

I think Mitch has steal of the draft potential and you can never have enough all-star type of players...trade bait, depth, etc.

I know this wont be a popular idea, but based on this assumption, i would contemplate a twin tower draft if i was confident it could lead to two all-star type player.

Perhaps we go from never acquiring that elusive game changing big man to getting two in the same draft.

I know this is cause for debate, and not saying i would 100% execute on it, but i would 100% consider it!

Won't this be similar to what AZ ran with Ayton and Ristic?

[thamadkant]

I would try to acquire a late first to try to get Khyri Thomas or Mitchell Robinson if we go with PG with the Heat pick

I was hoping Robinson would last to 16, but had seen him mocked in late lottery so didn't think he'd make it.

Assuming Robinson were to be available at 16, and assuming we grabbed and nabbed Ayton with the #1, assuming Shai, Sexton and Trae are all gone by the number 16 (a lot of assumptions, but all possbile).

I think Mitch has steal of the draft potential and you can never have enough all-star type of players...trade bait, depth, etc.

I know this wont be a popular idea, but based on this assumption, i would contemplate a twin tower draft if i was confident it could lead to two all-star type player.

Perhaps we go from never acquiring that elusive game changing big man to getting two in the same draft.

I know this is cause for debate, and not saying i would 100% execute on it, but i would 100% consider it!

Ideal twin tower setup from this draft is JJJ and Ayton

[Sunzgunz]

What are Robinson's hands like in the pick and roll?

If we draft Doncic he is going to be in the Capela role.

Mitchell Robinson

Just based on what I've read and youtubed:

1st off, we go bananas over mo bambas legnth (rightfully so), mo is 9'6" and Mitch is 9'3," so pretty comparable, furthermore, a good number of scouts had mitch pegged as the best defensive player in highschool, very impressive considering the class.

His senior year 26 pts, 13 boards, 6 blocks, 60% from the floor, 29% 3pt line, 60% free throws.

Iq, handles and a wasted year seem to be his most glaring weakness.

But great legnth, athleticism, hands, and rim protection. Gets up high, and more importantly he gets up quick.

As for going to WKU thing, u could spin that as loyalty, despite offers from bigger programs, he followed his Godfather to and from WKU. Texas A&M was his 2nd choice, wow! Mitch and Rob would have had some moments!

Seems to have a little bit of touch for his size, so i think pic and roll/mid range pop is not out of the question.

Ive seen the deandre jordan comparison thrown out a lot....but with some range.

A classmate (message board) threw out the Amare comparison in terms of offensive dunks/explosiveness....that was a hard sell, most didnt buy it.

What i liked most, in addition to possibly being the best rim protector, with blocks stats to help support this. He closes out very well! With average blocks per game decreasing due to all these stretch 4 and 5's, its good to see hes capable of guarding the rim and the perimeter. Doesnt seem a bad gamble if available at 16.

Again, i obviously have no inside info, just what ive read and see via video clips.

[thamadkant]

Would rather Mitch Robinson than Bamba because Robinson is slated outside top 10 and Bamba is projected top 6...

[Qwigglez]

Whoever the Jazz want at their pick is who I’d take with the 17th pick.

[Kerrsed]

Would rather Mitch Robinson than Bamba because Robinson is slated outside top 10 and Bamba is projected top 6...

Not to mention Robinson was projected at the very top of the class with Ayton and Porter Jr. (Ahead of Bagley/Bamba) coming out of Highschool. He was recruited by all the top schools/programs around the country. He was also a better rebounder and defender than Bamba as well. A McDonald’s All-American, Robinson has also made the coveted Jordan Brand classic and played for USA Basketball. Robinson has the highest Player Efficiency Rating of all time on Nike’s EYBL AAU circuit.

[Sunzgunz]

I was hoping Robinson would last to 16, but had seen him mocked in late lottery so didn't think he'd make it.

Assuming Robinson were to be available at 16, and assuming we grabbed and nabbed Ayton with the #1, assuming Shai, Sexton and Trae are all gone by the number 16 (a lot of assumptions, but all possbile).

I think Mitch has steal of the draft potential and you can never have enough all-star type of players...trade bait, depth, etc.

I know this wont be a popular idea, but based on this assumption, i would contemplate a twin tower draft if i was confident it could lead to two all-star type player.

Perhaps we go from never acquiring that elusive game changing big man to getting two in the same draft.

I know this is cause for debate, and not saying i would 100% execute on it, but i would 100% consider it!

Won't this be similar to what AZ ran with Ayton and Ristic?

Good call!

I would also rather match Ayton up with JJJ or Bamba, but u already nailed it, Mitch is the only one of these 3 that could still be in the green room at 16.

Assuming we got Ayton, they only guys i would draft ahead of Mitch are Trae, Sexton and Shai; with Shai being the only with a chance, otherwise twin towers is a real possibility.

I do like Shake, but im not sure i like him at number 16. It wouldn't hurt to draft Mitch just for leverage as there are other teams who reportedly think the same about Mitch meaning we could pissibly circle back around to get Shake with an asset.

Just a loose example of the leverage (dont crucify me, its on the fly and in the wee hours ). I read the bulls would love Mitch at number 22. Alright Chicago, well give u 16 (mitch) and our #31 in exchange for your #22 (welcome to Phoenix Shake) but were also grabbing Portis or maybe work something out for Lavine if you took Trae, and not a PF with your #6.

You really want a rim protector L.A.? #25 probably doesnt resurrect the second coming of Bynum, but tell you what, we'll give you the #16 (mitch) and the #31 for you #25 (welcome to phoenix Shake) and Julius Randle. Shake, book, JJ, Randle and Ayton could be formidable.

I actually think Philly is the team to watch and possibly conduct business with....there are so many possibilities. They have stockpiled quite a bit and have proven they have no problem sending young prospects packing.

[GDFTony]

Watch on YouTube

Game of Zones episode featuring Kings & Suns

That look on Dragan's face is well worth it!

[bwgood77]

Would rather Mitch Robinson than Bamba because Robinson is slated outside top 10 and Bamba is projected top 6...

Not to mention Robinson was projected at the very top of the class with Ayton and Porter Jr. (Ahead of Bagley/Bamba) coming out of Highschool. He was recruited by all the top schools/programs around the country. He was also a better rebounder and defender than Bamba as well. A McDonald’s All-American, Robinson has also made the coveted Jordan Brand classic and played for USA Basketball. Robinson has the highest Player Efficiency Rating of all time on Nike’s EYBL AAU circuit.

Where are you getting that? His prospect ranking on rivals was high #9, but those guys were 2 and 4. What prospect ranking are you talking about?

https://n.rivals.com/prospect_rankings/rivals150/2017