thamadkant wrote:If Suns are keen on Biyombo on a multi-year contract and unsure McGee will come back (he has drawn interest from teams for sure), then Stix is the proper player to retain because his developing 3pt shot and PF potential is still there and suits Suns needs when they need to go big against certain teams (Bucks).
I think this is a lot of faith in Sarver to pay for Stix when the whole reason we voided his last year is due to Sarver's cheapness.
I'm don't think he pays to keep Stix and I think that he doesn't want to pay Ayton (but probably will) and will let Cam Johnson walk if it comes down to it.
letting Cameron Johnson walk and get Ayton pissed by continued low balling would be the last straw
Pistons fan here, I come in peace. I hope the Pistons are scouting Smith closely. We have a hole at center, Isaiah Stewart is showing to be more of an energy guy off the bench. We signed Olynyk to a 3year 37 mil contract. I could see us overpaying for Jalen Smith. Is there a trade possible for him?
thamadkant wrote:If Suns are keen on Biyombo on a multi-year contract and unsure McGee will come back (he has drawn interest from teams for sure), then Stix is the proper player to retain because his developing 3pt shot and PF potential is still there and suits Suns needs when they need to go big against certain teams (Bucks).
I think this is a lot of faith in Sarver to pay for Stix when the whole reason we voided his last year is due to Sarver's cheapness.
I'm don't think he pays to keep Stix and I think that he doesn't want to pay Ayton (but probably will) and will let Cam Johnson walk if it comes down to it.
letting Cameron Johnson walk and get Ayton pissed by continued low balling would be the last straw
Me and BW got into this alot over the summer but I feel there's no way that Sarver is paying Ayton, Mikal AND Cam Johnson....in addition to a Booker/CP3 max. That doesn't sound like the Sarver we all know and love
It just isn't happening. Our best hope is he sells between now and the start of the next season or we get great trade value on whoever is the odd man out.
FloridaMan78 wrote:Pistons fan here, I come in peace. I hope the Pistons are scouting Smith closely. We have a hole at center, Isaiah Stewart is showing to be more of an energy guy off the bench. We signed Olynyk to a 3year 37 mil contract. I could see us overpaying for Jalen Smith. Is there a trade possible for him?
Sure. We need wing depth. Who you got? Mind you, we cant take josh jackson back. Man burned a bridge before we shipped him out.
Dont know how to make a jerami grant trade work, considering we wont move mikal or cam. Its not a player value thing as much as a contract and chemistry thing. Couldnt give you more than one frp since he wouldnt resign with us for a bench role.
FloridaMan78 wrote:Pistons fan here, I come in peace. I hope the Pistons are scouting Smith closely. We have a hole at center, Isaiah Stewart is showing to be more of an energy guy off the bench. We signed Olynyk to a 3year 37 mil contract. I could see us overpaying for Jalen Smith. Is there a trade possible for him?
Sure. We need wing depth. Who you got? Mind you, we cant take josh jackson back. Man burned a bridge before we shipped him out.
Dont know how to make a jerami grant trade work, considering we wont move mikal or cam. Its not a player value thing as much as a contract and chemistry thing. Couldnt give you more than one frp since he wouldnt resign with us for a bench role.
Yea not much lol. Hami Diallo has played well lately, but he still can’t shoot. It would probably have to be a three team trade with someone that wants Grant or we wait for free agency.
FloridaMan78 wrote:Pistons fan here, I come in peace. I hope the Pistons are scouting Smith closely. We have a hole at center, Isaiah Stewart is showing to be more of an energy guy off the bench. We signed Olynyk to a 3year 37 mil contract. I could see us overpaying for Jalen Smith. Is there a trade possible for him?
Sure. We need wing depth. Who you got? Mind you, we cant take josh jackson back. Man burned a bridge before we shipped him out.
Dont know how to make a jerami grant trade work, considering we wont move mikal or cam. Its not a player value thing as much as a contract and chemistry thing. Couldnt give you more than one frp since he wouldnt resign with us for a bench role.
Yea not much lol. Hami Diallo has played well lately, but he still can’t shoot. It would probably have to be a three team trade with someone that wants Grant or we wait for free agency.
What would you guys be looking for to give up Grant? I assume that Jalen and Dario plus a future pick wouldn't be enough, or is that something that would work?
FloridaMan78 wrote:Pistons fan here, I come in peace. I hope the Pistons are scouting Smith closely. We have a hole at center, Isaiah Stewart is showing to be more of an energy guy off the bench. We signed Olynyk to a 3year 37 mil contract. I could see us overpaying for Jalen Smith. Is there a trade possible for him?
Sure. We need wing depth. Who you got? Mind you, we cant take josh jackson back. Man burned a bridge before we shipped him out.
Dont know how to make a jerami grant trade work, considering we wont move mikal or cam. Its not a player value thing as much as a contract and chemistry thing. Couldnt give you more than one frp since he wouldnt resign with us for a bench role.
Yea not much lol. Hami Diallo has played well lately, but he still can’t shoot. It would probably have to be a three team trade with someone that wants Grant or we wait for free agency.
Actually I had a 3 team trade that would benefit everyone that I was discussing with some people on the trade board. Phoenix/ Detroit/ Atlanta:
Detroit- Shamet and Smith. Shamet is a perfect offensive compliment to Cades' defense. Smith is a great frontcourt compliment to Stewart and adds center depth.
Atlanta- Cory Joseph/ Payton /(PHX 2024 lotto protected first). Atlanta needs legitimate point guard depth.
Phoenix- Delon Wright/ Hamidou Diallo/ Trey Lyles/ Shariffe Cooper. - Delon Wright is an upgrade to Payton, he's got solid sizeat 6'5, is good defensively, is a decent passer, and is shooting37% from three. Which Payton can'tdo for us. ( 9 million expiring).
- Diallo is a strong at driving to the rim, is a very good defender and has supreme athleticism and great length at 6'5 with a 6'11 wingspan.
- Tre Lyles is an adequate big with food size at 6'9 with a 7'1 wingspan. He's a decent floor spacing big, and is a good rotational defender and defensive rebounder.
- Shariffe Cooper is an absolute genius orchestrator and playmaking savant. Very fast with an elite handle. He'd be the perfect prodigy for Paul to mentor. Best of all, All are expiring contracts. So with all of these contracts coming off the books next season, We'd save around $15 million in cap space next season.
ImNotMcDiSwear wrote: Sure. We need wing depth. Who you got? Mind you, we cant take josh jackson back. Man burned a bridge before we shipped him out.
Dont know how to make a jerami grant trade work, considering we wont move mikal or cam. Its not a player value thing as much as a contract and chemistry thing. Couldnt give you more than one frp since he wouldnt resign with us for a bench role.
Yea not much lol. Hami Diallo has played well lately, but he still can’t shoot. It would probably have to be a three team trade with someone that wants Grant or we wait for free agency.
What would you guys be looking for to give up Grant? I assume that Jalen and Dario plus a future pick wouldn't be enough, or is that something that would work?
Yea I think that’s what his reasonable value is right now. Young player, future draft pick and filler.
FloridaMan78 wrote:Pistons fan here, I come in peace. I hope the Pistons are scouting Smith closely. We have a hole at center, Isaiah Stewart is showing to be more of an energy guy off the bench. We signed Olynyk to a 3year 37 mil contract. I could see us overpaying for Jalen Smith. Is there a trade possible for him?
Would you be willing to part ways with Cunningham and Grant for a nice package of Smith, Saric, Crowder, Kaminsky and Payton?
ImNotMcDiSwear wrote: Sure. We need wing depth. Who you got? Mind you, we cant take josh jackson back. Man burned a bridge before we shipped him out.
Dont know how to make a jerami grant trade work, considering we wont move mikal or cam. Its not a player value thing as much as a contract and chemistry thing. Couldnt give you more than one frp since he wouldnt resign with us for a bench role.
Yea not much lol. Hami Diallo has played well lately, but he still can’t shoot. It would probably have to be a three team trade with someone that wants Grant or we wait for free agency.
Actually I had a 3 team trade that would benefit everyone that I was discussing with some people on the trade board. Phoenix/ Detroit/ Atlanta:
Detroit- Shamet and Smith. Shamet is a perfect offensive compliment to Cades' defense. Smith is a great frontcourt compliment to Stewart and adds center depth.
Atlanta- Cory Joseph/ Payton /(PHX 2024 lotto protected first). Atlanta needs legitimate point guard depth.
Phoenix- Delon Wright/ Hamidou Diallo/ Trey Lyles/ Shariffe Cooper. - Delon Wright is an upgrade to Payton, he's got solid sizeat 6'5, is good defensively, is a decent passer, and is shooting37% from three. Which Payton can'tdo for us. ( 9 million expiring).
- Diallo is a strong at driving to the rim, is a very good defender and has supreme athleticism and great length at 6'5 with a 6'11 wingspan.
- Tre Lyles is an adequate big with food size at 6'9 with a 7'1 wingspan. He's a decent floor spacing big, and is a good rotational defender and defensive rebounder.
- Shariffe Cooper is an absolute genius orchestrator and playmaking savant. Very fast with an elite handle. He'd be the perfect prodigy for Paul to mentor. Best of all, All are expiring contracts. So with all of these contracts coming off the books next season, We'd save around $15 million in cap space next season.
Although that Shamet contract is a negative, I think that’s a tough deal to pass up for Det.
ImNotMcDiSwear wrote: Sure. We need wing depth. Who you got? Mind you, we cant take josh jackson back. Man burned a bridge before we shipped him out.
Dont know how to make a jerami grant trade work, considering we wont move mikal or cam. Its not a player value thing as much as a contract and chemistry thing. Couldnt give you more than one frp since he wouldnt resign with us for a bench role.
Yea not much lol. Hami Diallo has played well lately, but he still can’t shoot. It would probably have to be a three team trade with someone that wants Grant or we wait for free agency.
Actually I had a 3 team trade that would benefit everyone that I was discussing with some people on the trade board. Phoenix/ Detroit/ Atlanta:
Detroit- Shamet and Smith. Shamet is a perfect offensive compliment to Cades' defense. Smith is a great frontcourt compliment to Stewart and adds center depth.
Atlanta- Cory Joseph/ Payton /(PHX 2024 lotto protected first). Atlanta needs legitimate point guard depth.
Phoenix- Delon Wright/ Hamidou Diallo/ Trey Lyles/ Shariffe Cooper. - Delon Wright is an upgrade to Payton, he's got solid sizeat 6'5, is good defensively, is a decent passer, and is shooting37% from three. Which Payton can'tdo for us. ( 9 million expiring).
- Diallo is a strong at driving to the rim, is a very good defender and has supreme athleticism and great length at 6'5 with a 6'11 wingspan.
- Tre Lyles is an adequate big with food size at 6'9 with a 7'1 wingspan. He's a decent floor spacing big, and is a good rotational defender and defensive rebounder.
- Shariffe Cooper is an absolute genius orchestrator and playmaking savant. Very fast with an elite handle. He'd be the perfect prodigy for Paul to mentor. Best of all, All are expiring contracts. So with all of these contracts coming off the books next season, We'd save around $15 million in cap space next season.
This is a horrible trade for the Suns IMO.
Yeah...we are leading the NBA next to the Warriors with an amazing 29W-8L record and we need to bring FOUR new players, three of them who can't play decent minutes at all on the Pistons or Hawks. Oh my...
FloridaMan78 wrote:Pistons fan here, I come in peace. I hope the Pistons are scouting Smith closely. We have a hole at center, Isaiah Stewart is showing to be more of an energy guy off the bench. We signed Olynyk to a 3year 37 mil contract. I could see us overpaying for Jalen Smith. Is there a trade possible for him?
The Suns or whichever team trades for him now will not be able to offer him more than $4.6M next season, so I would recommend the Pistons to stay pat an offer him a contract as an UFA in the summer.
FloridaMan78 wrote:Pistons fan here, I come in peace. I hope the Pistons are scouting Smith closely. We have a hole at center, Isaiah Stewart is showing to be more of an energy guy off the bench. We signed Olynyk to a 3year 37 mil contract. I could see us overpaying for Jalen Smith. Is there a trade possible for him?
Would you be willing to part ways with Cunningham and Grant for a nice package of Smith, Saric, Crowder, Kaminsky and Payton?
The man comes in peace, and here you are doing violence to him with this post!
FloridaMan78 wrote:Pistons fan here, I come in peace. I hope the Pistons are scouting Smith closely. We have a hole at center, Isaiah Stewart is showing to be more of an energy guy off the bench. We signed Olynyk to a 3year 37 mil contract. I could see us overpaying for Jalen Smith. Is there a trade possible for him?
The Suns or whichever team trades for him now will not be able to offer him more than $4.6M next season, so I would recommend the Pistons to stay pat an offer him a contract as an UFA in the summer.
In the offseason discussion thread, bigfoot mentioned that teams won't pay Jalen this summer due to his small body of work, which won't grow at all once DA and Javale return to action.
I think the corollary to that is - if a team likes what they've seen from him but want a better look before they offer him the $5-6 mil or so they are allowed to offer this summer, perhaps they give up a small asset now to give him a major role for the rest of this season and offer him a major role going forward if he plays well. Whatever team does that should have the inside track on signing him this summer. A young guy like Jalen should prefer big minutes to playing with a winning club in order to get the most out of "real" free agency in a couple years.
FloridaMan78 wrote:Pistons fan here, I come in peace. I hope the Pistons are scouting Smith closely. We have a hole at center, Isaiah Stewart is showing to be more of an energy guy off the bench. We signed Olynyk to a 3year 37 mil contract. I could see us overpaying for Jalen Smith. Is there a trade possible for him?
The Suns or whichever team trades for him now will not be able to offer him more than $4.6M next season, so I would recommend the Pistons to stay pat an offer him a contract as an UFA in the summer.
FloridaMan78 wrote:Pistons fan here, I come in peace. I hope the Pistons are scouting Smith closely. We have a hole at center, Isaiah Stewart is showing to be more of an energy guy off the bench. We signed Olynyk to a 3year 37 mil contract. I could see us overpaying for Jalen Smith. Is there a trade possible for him?
The Suns or whichever team trades for him now will not be able to offer him more than $4.6M next season, so I would recommend the Pistons to stay pat an offer him a contract as an UFA in the summer.
Well that’s pretty important.
The real question is would you rather wait, where Smith will likely get limited mins here, and hope that he can tap into the gains he has made the last few games, or get him now, give him a significant role, allowing him to build on the gains he has made, and then hope he signs for the $4.6 mil because he knows he has a significant role? Waiting, and then paying him a larger amount in the summer, only to find out that the chemistry doesn't work, or he can't get back to the role he has had the last few games, leaves you in a worse position. Suns should have picked up his 3rd year.
FloridaMan78 wrote: Yea not much lol. Hami Diallo has played well lately, but he still can’t shoot. It would probably have to be a three team trade with someone that wants Grant or we wait for free agency.
Actually I had a 3 team trade that would benefit everyone that I was discussing with some people on the trade board. Phoenix/ Detroit/ Atlanta:
Detroit- Shamet and Smith. Shamet is a perfect offensive compliment to Cades' defense. Smith is a great frontcourt compliment to Stewart and adds center depth.
Atlanta- Cory Joseph/ Payton /(PHX 2024 lotto protected first). Atlanta needs legitimate point guard depth.
Phoenix- Delon Wright/ Hamidou Diallo/ Trey Lyles/ Shariffe Cooper. - Delon Wright is an upgrade to Payton, he's got solid sizeat 6'5, is good defensively, is a decent passer, and is shooting37% from three. Which Payton can'tdo for us. ( 9 million expiring).
- Diallo is a strong at driving to the rim, is a very good defender and has supreme athleticism and great length at 6'5 with a 6'11 wingspan.
- Tre Lyles is an adequate big with food size at 6'9 with a 7'1 wingspan. He's a decent floor spacing big, and is a good rotational defender and defensive rebounder.
- Shariffe Cooper is an absolute genius orchestrator and playmaking savant. Very fast with an elite handle. He'd be the perfect prodigy for Paul to mentor. Best of all, All are expiring contracts. So with all of these contracts coming off the books next season, We'd save around $15 million in cap space next season.
This is a horrible trade for the Suns IMO.
Yeah...we are leading the NBA next to the Warriors with an amazing 29W-8L record and we need to bring FOUR new players, three of them who can't play decent minutes at all on the Pistons or Hawks. Oh my...
We can't even fit 4 new guys with only 2 going out into our roster. So luckily a small thing called reailty is usually in the way of most of these trades...
FloridaMan78 wrote: Yea not much lol. Hami Diallo has played well lately, but he still can’t shoot. It would probably have to be a three team trade with someone that wants Grant or we wait for free agency.
What would you guys be looking for to give up Grant? I assume that Jalen and Dario plus a future pick wouldn't be enough, or is that something that would work?
Yea I think that’s what his reasonable value is right now. Young player, future draft pick and filler.
Really? I mean the Bulls forum is pondering Pwill, one of Coby White of Ayo Dosunmu and the Portland pick for Grant... Pwill has been much better than Jalen before the injury, and either one of the guards could be a good scorer off the bench by the looks of them so far. Add the Portland pick (could be gold in the future), and I think none of the offers we can make snifs that... Just my 2c... if you guys rather want our package, so be it...
FloridaMan78 wrote: Yea not much lol. Hami Diallo has played well lately, but he still can’t shoot. It would probably have to be a three team trade with someone that wants Grant or we wait for free agency.
Actually I had a 3 team trade that would benefit everyone that I was discussing with some people on the trade board. Phoenix/ Detroit/ Atlanta:
Detroit- Shamet and Smith. Shamet is a perfect offensive compliment to Cades' defense. Smith is a great frontcourt compliment to Stewart and adds center depth.
Atlanta- Cory Joseph/ Payton /(PHX 2024 lotto protected first). Atlanta needs legitimate point guard depth.
Phoenix- Delon Wright/ Hamidou Diallo/ Trey Lyles/ Shariffe Cooper. - Delon Wright is an upgrade to Payton, he's got solid sizeat 6'5, is good defensively, is a decent passer, and is shooting37% from three. Which Payton can'tdo for us. ( 9 million expiring).
- Diallo is a strong at driving to the rim, is a very good defender and has supreme athleticism and great length at 6'5 with a 6'11 wingspan.
- Tre Lyles is an adequate big with food size at 6'9 with a 7'1 wingspan. He's a decent floor spacing big, and is a good rotational defender and defensive rebounder.
- Shariffe Cooper is an absolute genius orchestrator and playmaking savant. Very fast with an elite handle. He'd be the perfect prodigy for Paul to mentor. Best of all, All are expiring contracts. So with all of these contracts coming off the books next season, We'd save around $15 million in cap space next season.
This is a horrible trade for the Suns IMO.
Yeah...we are leading the NBA next to the Warriors with an amazing 29W-8L record and we need to bring FOUR new players, three of them who can't play decent minutes at all on the Pistons or Hawks. Oh my...
Lol...... Let's try and not get triggered by the premise of trading:
Shamet- Whose been pretty lousy and playing well below the value of his contract since he got here. Who currently represents a minimal impact 10 million salary.
Smith- ( whom I like) but obviously isn't in the suns long term plans anyways seeing as they outright chose not to pick up his option. And who will most likely once again be relegated to limited playing time at best with Monty back, and the immenent return of Crowder and Ayton and even the prioritization of Biyombo now too. Also what happens if/ when Kaminsky does return in 8 weeks from the surgery option for his stress fracture? according to the latest Twitter report shared recently by someone. I mean what kind of minutes do you genuinely expect him to get towards further development and value increase? He's otherwise likely to walk anyways after the season. And again with all of those players in front of him, you're prioritizing a few minutes a game of potential contribution over clearing up to 15 million in cap space that can be used towards RESIGNING MCGEE with whatever increases he'll be seeking. Offering Biyombo a more competitive contract ( if necessary), and ultimately percentages towards Ayton being resigned too. But to each their own I suppose.
Payton- Who even though a decent defender due to his size alone isn't at all capable of spacing the floor for us, has tunnel vision at times and poor shot selection and is a minimum player playing minimum minutes at best. What positively impactful role do you seriously see him having for us in the playoffs with his inability to shoot, and his alpha mentality of taking it into the paint 1 on 3 and not passing it out to our open shooters whilst throwing up bad shots?
Can we also be honest with ourselves in that none of the players mentioned in the proposal above have actually consistently contributed to us getting to that record! Our bench OUTSIDE OF CAM JOHNSON AND JAVALE MCGEE has been pretty mediocre at best outside those two players. Those two players have been playing out of their minds and well beyond the norm in order to carry our meh bench. Along with the very heavy minutes this whole season for our starters and key rotation players. So it's silly to claim that any of the above mentioned players were impactful in getting us to that record!!!
Let's see how playing such heavy minutes on Paul, Booker, Crowder, Bridges plays out as the season wears on, and fatigue becomes even more of a factor. And to be clear on the 4 new players, OTHER THAN SHAMET ALONE, whose again has been a big disappointment throughout the season and whose contract if we're being honest, was a big overpay and is a big reason why we chose not to pick up Smith's option anyways, we're talking about freaking 3rd string options that'll be playing minimal minutes at best!! They'll obviously be looked at to have minimal impact on our games. But what they do represent is up to 15 million in additional cap space next season with which we can now resign McGee ( Has he not been important to us and our success)?? Would it be key to be able to resign him as insurance in case ( for whatever reason) we're unable to resign Ayton. Or even for sustainable bench production? We can also put this additional cap towards Cams' looming extension, and/ or actually signing Biyombo to a more competitive contract.
What about towards getting us below the luxury tax more! So that Saver actually has more incentive towards resigning Johnson if his market value is higher than anticipated? If we stayed the course and were still a cash strapped LT paying team, and as a result, yes we kept Shamet, but in the process lost McGee, lost Smith anyways, and/ or Saver chose not to extend Johnson due to squabbling over a few million dollars ( cheap azz owner whose done it before with Joe Johnson ironically). Would not doing this cap clearing deal still look as good to you?
Lyles- is playing 18 minutes for a 3rd string vet minimum big option. Is that not decent? For example, Payne is getting 20 minutes on a contender. McGee is getting 18 minutes. By the same measure, are they also not getting decent minutes since the argument is apparently claiming that 21 minutes and 18 minutes are not considered decent minutes?they're playing for a lottery team currently with higher ranked lottery picks and established vets playing in front of them in the depth chart ( team heirarchy). Pretty common practice for any team really as their young players. But both are still solid for their roles. Wright is playing playing 17 minutes as a backup guard with Tre Young playing 34! Is he expected to be playing more than Young ( max player)? They also have him listed at shooting guard. But he's not primarily a shooter. He's more of a big defensive guard with some playmaking skills. Is he expected to play in front of Bogie ? Is 17 minutes not good for a backup guard/ 3rd wing?
Diallo- is not great from three yet, but to be fair, Shamet at double the price on a longer contract hasn't been either. The difference though is that Diallo is elite in getting to the rim, and is a very good defender. But he's also been very good from the midrange, is supremely athletic, a good rebounder, free throw generator, iso scorer, and is a very good perimeter defender too (remind me.......isn't perimeter defense one of our continuing weaknesses contributing to our losses with teams blasting us from three)?? Hoop Central (@TheHoopCentral) Tweeted: Hamidou Diallo over the last 3 Games:
?s=20 I'm sure that this isn't decent production for a 5 million expiring backup wing player huh?...lol. and for half of what Shamet will earn for a fraction of this though. When was the last time Shamet had production close to this?? He'd be a fine replacement to Shamet for the season.
NBA Central (@TheNBACentral) Tweeted: Hamidou Diallo over his last 3 games:
?s=20 He'd be replacing Shamets' role as an expiring contract. Allowing us to resign McGee, etc etc.
Lyles- is a serviceable 3rd string big and expiring contract. He's also a decent floor spacing big and rebounder, and solid rotational defender in the post for a 3rd string vet min option.
Delon Wright- is a good, disruptive point guard with size at 6'5 and is a solid defender whose shot 42% from three for Atlanta for the season. Can Payton space the floor like that? His per 36 is: 12/ 5/ 5/ 1.9 steals. Not bad at all for a 3rd string guard. Finally.....................
Shariffe Cooper - ( costs us nothing aside from a two way slot). But still, he's still a ridiculously good passer and ballhandler. Has a very high IQ, and is another risk upside swing prospect that can provide elite ballhandling and playmaking for our 3rd string/ 4th string? bench. Look at his ballhandling and moreover his passing. He can learn so much from Paul and offer the ballhandling and playmaking missing from our bench.
The predominant goal in this trade is to create additional cap space by dumping the overpay salary of Shamet, allowing us to resign McGee and put additional percentages towards Cams' extension and/ or signing Bitombo longterm. It absolutely achieves that goal, Whilst also filling our 3rd string bench with decent productive players. Not at all terrible for us considering the alternative.
Slim Charless wrote: What would you guys be looking for to give up Grant? I assume that Jalen and Dario plus a future pick wouldn't be enough, or is that something that would work?
Yea I think that’s what his reasonable value is right now. Young player, future draft pick and filler.
Really? I mean the Bulls forum is pondering Pwill, one of Coby White of Ayo Dosunmu and the Portland pick for Grant... Pwill has been much better than Jalen before the injury, and either one of the guards could be a good scorer off the bench by the looks of them so far. Add the Portland pick (could be gold in the future), and I think none of the offers we can make snifs that... Just my 2c... if you guys rather want our package, so be it...
Yea honestly most Pistons fans would be happy with just Pwill lol. I think Grant’s value is a bit overstated
bench. Look at his ballhandling and moreover his passing. He can learn so much from Paul and offer the ballhandling and playmaking missing from our bench. 