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Post#381 » by SlovenianDragon » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:16 pm

A suspension? That seems like nothing.
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Post#382 » by SSOL » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:19 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Well that sucks. I'm resigned to the fact he'll never leave.

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Post#383 » by matt131 » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:21 pm

An easy way for Sarver to make back his 10 mil is to sell the team...lol
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Post#384 » by starbosa10 » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:23 pm

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starbosa10 wrote:Slap on the wrist. Do NBA fines go to charity or just line the leagues pockets?

Nvm about the fines, just read the end of the NBA's statement


Is it? The maximum fine ($10M) and a year-long suspension…


Considering the facts of the investigation yes it is a slap on the wrist. Anything short of having to sell I consider him getting off easy
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Post#385 » by Slim Charless » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:27 pm

Got off easy. Scumbag **** should be forced to sell the team.
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Post#386 » by SSOL » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:27 pm

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Read her bio and about 8 other of her post’s. She definitely fits a stereotype. Probably thinks Britany Griner is a victim too. If the NBA was going to move on this it would have been done. This isn’t a trail for murder.


No, it isn’t a trail for murder, however more current and former employees than anyone would like came forward with accusations of racism and misogyny and some of them chose to lose their careers over their alleged transparency. An investigation does not just stop as it is either ongoing or closed and until until it is the latter, the NBA will not act. The fact that they have not yet is not an indication of what they will or will not do.


Talk to me about an investigation when you’ve already drug his name through the mud. Innocent until you’ve decided he’s guilty?


No one is responsible for dragging his name through the mud except for Sarver himself. He made a decision as to how he wanted to conduct himself in a professional environment and a comprehensive investigation has proven that conduct to be reprehensible. To say or claim otherwise is to say that a lengthy and independent investigation by one of the absolute top law firms in the country is faulty and/or flawed and I would find it hard to believe that you have facts to support such a claim. Props to the people that came forward and I hope they can find some solace with the result. That $10M will hit him in ways it wouldn't usually in the case of many other Governors.
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Post#387 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:30 pm

SSOL wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Well that sucks. I'm resigned to the fact he'll never leave.

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He will. This is the beginning of the end.
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Post#388 » by sunskerr » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:30 pm

A 1 year suspension? For racism and harassment?

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Post#389 » by SSOL » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:31 pm

starbosa10 wrote:
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starbosa10 wrote:Slap on the wrist. Do NBA fines go to charity or just line the leagues pockets?

Nvm about the fines, just read the end of the NBA's statement


Is it? The maximum fine ($10M) and a year-long suspension…


Considering the facts of the investigation yes it is a slap on the wrist. Anything short of having to sell I consider him getting off easy


Many factors at play here. I would have to imagine a sale will be happening sooner than later as an appearance of a forced sale isn’t great as it sets a slippery slope of a precedent. Don’t forget that there were recordings of Sterling’s comments and I haven’t seen anything here to indicate that was the case with Sarver.
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Post#390 » by SlovenianDragon » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:33 pm

sunskerr wrote:A 1 year suspension? For racism and harassment?

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I'm wondering if it's because it's a he said she said thing and to try and force him to sell of that could get real messy? Idk
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Post#391 » by Slim Charless » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:33 pm

matt131 wrote:An easy way for Sarver to make back his 10 mil is to sell the team...lol


If he sold, he'd get the biggest haul in American sports history imo. I bet the Suns go for 4B minimum.

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Post#392 » by starbosa10 » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:36 pm

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Is it? The maximum fine ($10M) and a year-long suspension…


Considering the facts of the investigation yes it is a slap on the wrist. Anything short of having to sell I consider him getting off easy


Many factors at play here. I would have to imagine a sale will be happening sooner than later as an appearance of a forced sale isn’t great as it sets a slippery slope of a precedent. Don’t forget that there were recordings of Sterling’s comments and I haven’t seen anything here to indicate that was the case with Sarver.


Yup same BS in the NFL too, happy to sweep it all under the rug until videos/recordings come out. Without a public video/clip these major organizations are pleased to continue with their slaps on the wrist for egregious behavior.
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Post#395 » by RaisingArizona » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:46 pm

Ugh. Please sell the team and go away.
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Post#396 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Tue Sep 13, 2022 4:51 pm

I like the resolution here. $10 million isn't chump change. A year away from the team is a pretty big deal, too. This isn't the Donald Sterling case.

Thing is, other owners I'm sure have skeletons in their closet, and they don't want to be tossing forced sales around at each other. Gets dangerous. This sends the signal to owners that this conduct will be punished.

How this goes from here really depends on how Sarver reacts. I don't trust him and would like him to step away for good, but I doubt he wants to go out of the limelight in disgrace. But if he keeps the team, this sanction will always be brought up when he's discussed. So we'll see.
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Post#397 » by sunsbum » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:22 pm

SSOL wrote:
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SSOL wrote:This board… :roll:
isn’t it awful when other people have different opinions than you?


Opinions are opinions and facts are facts. Your post didn’t age well and gosh, who could have foreseen that?

Opinion: nothing to see here, look at her profile and you can tell everything about her.

Facts: “…the independent investigation found that Mr. Sarver "engaged in conduct that clearly violated common workplace standards, as reflected in team and League rules and policies. This conduct included the use of racially insensitive language; unequal treatment of female employees; sex-related statements and conduct; and harsh treatment of employees that on occasion constituted bullying."
The broadest stroke of the brush. They didn’t find much on him cause he’s had a target on his back for 20 years, league would jump on an opportunity to get rid of him. Glad everyone can move on now, well most of us. I’m sure there will be no shortage of name calling for the next 20 years twords bobert.
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Post#398 » by SSOL » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:31 pm

sunsbum wrote:
SSOL wrote:
sunsbum wrote: isn’t it awful when other people have different opinions than you?


Opinions are opinions and facts are facts. Your post didn’t age well and gosh, who could have foreseen that?

Opinion: nothing to see here, look at her profile and you can tell everything about her.

Facts: “…the independent investigation found that Mr. Sarver "engaged in conduct that clearly violated common workplace standards, as reflected in team and League rules and policies. This conduct included the use of racially insensitive language; unequal treatment of female employees; sex-related statements and conduct; and harsh treatment of employees that on occasion constituted bullying."
The broadest stroke of the brush. They didn’t find much on him cause he’s had a target on his back for 20 years, league would jump on an opportunity to get rid of him. Glad everyone can move on now, well most of us. I’m sure there will be no shortage of name calling for the next 20 years twords bobert.


An absolutely wild take but I would expect nothing less from you.

“Didn’t find much”….really….an investigation found that he used racial slurs(N-word multiple times), made sexual comments in the workplace, made comments about the physical appearance of female employees, had inappropriate physical conduct towards male employees, and established an organizational culture that was tantamount to bullying. That’s…a lot. So much so that the league issued the heaviest fine in its arsenal and for reasons mentioned above, a forced sale was not and is not in the best interest of the league at this time. But you can take it to the bank (maybe not Bob’s) that he will sell the team within a few seasons and this investigation, an investigation that was absolutely necessary by the way, will be the impetus.

Also, sorry but are you saying Sarver is a victim of name calling? That’s LITERALLY what he did. Multiple times. And, clearly to the wrong people.

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Post#399 » by sunsbum » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:31 pm

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No, it isn’t a trail for murder, however more current and former employees than anyone would like came forward with accusations of racism and misogyny and some of them chose to lose their careers over their alleged transparency. An investigation does not just stop as it is either ongoing or closed and until until it is the latter, the NBA will not act. The fact that they have not yet is not an indication of what they will or will not do.


Talk to me about an investigation when you’ve already drug his name through the mud. Innocent until you’ve decided he’s guilty?


No one is responsible for dragging his name through the mud except for Sarver himself. He made a decision as to how he wanted to conduct himself in a professional environment and a comprehensive investigation has proven that conduct to be reprehensible. To say or claim otherwise is to say that a lengthy and independent investigation by one of the absolute top law firms in the country is faulty and/or flawed and I would find it hard to believe that you have facts to support such a claim. Props to the people that came forward and I hope they can find some solace with the result. That $10M will hit him in ways it wouldn't usually in the case of many other Governors.
cool post, obviously this was in reference before any news broke about a suspension or a fine. Y’all have been slandering his name for the last year with no proof of anything but hearsay from ex/disgruntled employees. I’m sure there are just as many people willing to go on record saying he’s a peach. If they found things that he said were unacceptable at the work place then im glad he’s getting reprimanded and held accountable for it. Personally it looks to me like they didn’t find much and this is just a “see we did something” moment for the NBA.
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Post#400 » by SSOL » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:37 pm

sunsbum wrote:
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Talk to me about an investigation when you’ve already drug his name through the mud. Innocent until you’ve decided he’s guilty?


No one is responsible for dragging his name through the mud except for Sarver himself. He made a decision as to how he wanted to conduct himself in a professional environment and a comprehensive investigation has proven that conduct to be reprehensible. To say or claim otherwise is to say that a lengthy and independent investigation by one of the absolute top law firms in the country is faulty and/or flawed and I would find it hard to believe that you have facts to support such a claim. Props to the people that came forward and I hope they can find some solace with the result. That $10M will hit him in ways it wouldn't usually in the case of many other Governors.
cool post, obviously this was in reference before any news broke about a suspension or a fine. Y’all have been slandering his name for the last year with no proof of anything but hearsay from ex/disgruntled employees. I’m sure there are just as many people willing to go on record saying he’s a peach. If they found things that he said were unacceptable at the work place then im glad he’s getting reprimanded and held accountable for it. Personally it looks to me like they didn’t find much and this is just a “see we did something” moment for the NBA.


Fundamentally flawed argument and reasoning but again…I expect nothing less, or I guess more (?) from you.

Just because you allege that some people would go on record saying he is, as you say, “a peach,” does not discount the horrendous things he said and did to others.

Slandering his name? I don’t recall making any type of false statement in regards to Sarver.

Didn’t find much? See the previous post or…read the statement. They found plenty and that is why they issued the stiffest financial penalty possible. The only thing the league could have done that would have resulted in a harsher penalty is a forced sale and that is not on the table.

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