2021-22 Season/Offseason Speculation

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[bwgood77]

As we are built right now we don't have enough deep going into an 82-games season as a contender.

We are one injury away to have serious problems in the rotation. It is pretty sure that we are gonna have to deal with some injury or bad condition/struggling from any player at some point and I wouldn't want to play Nader or Jalen Smith 25 mpg on a nightly basis.

You talk about giving Cam J, Bridges and Crowder a lot of deserved minutes at SF/PF...imagine one being down for a couple months. We would be in trouble.

We need one more good player IMO. We are contenders, depth is a must so we need one more known commodity in the roster. Nader or Jalen Smith aren't a sure thing, I like them but not on an overplayed role for next season.

Maybe it wasn't you but it seems you felt we had one of the deepest teams last year. I know we don't have Saric, but he's basically been replaced by McGee who is a bigger necessity for rebounding/rim protection, and Shamet, who is better than any 4th guard we have. It does feel like you posted about depth prior to us trading for Craig too, who we did after the Nader injury. We have a tad less depth at 3/4 but also that is the position with the most versatile depth as well, and 3 guys show could play in the high 20 minutes, with potentially a few minutes left over for either Nader or Smith if needed or they are ready. This would likely be only be a couple minutes to end the 1st/start the 2nd if they were used. I do like Young, but not sure likely 1 year of him is worth it, though I think he could help. Still seems he could get a better opportunity elsewhere.

Yeah, that was me but a couple things has changed since last season.

First, this season is gonna be 10 games longer. That is a factor.

Secondly, in this season expectations are much higher for us. We just were trying to get to the playoffs last season and we exceeded expectations but this season we are gonna have pressure since the first game.

We have imporved our backup SG but we lack that fourth SF/PF. I know that some are high on Nader but he has never been a rotation player on a full season in the NBA. I do not want to rely on him or Jalen Smith on a nightly basis.

And Saric is more versatile than McGee. Worst at rebounding and shot blocking but he could play next to Ayton if needed...that possibility is not there anymore.

I still think we have a lot of options regarding the 4th SF/PF. As I have previously mentioned, I expect Jae, Cam and Bridges to play a lot of minutes.

But with Shamet now there, I also feel that with Booker and Paul likely playing a lot of minutes. Say Booker 34 at least and CP3 probably 30. I know some think/want Paul to play less, but he has never played less than 31 and he WANTS to play. Even when he was banged up his years in Houston or last in LA he was over 31, and each of the last two years. I think at minimum he plays 28 but likely more like 30.

But I think Payne and Shamet can play more than the remaining 26 minutes left between the guard spots. This gives us the ability with reserve units to go small, and sometimes maybe play Payne/Shamet/Book/Cam/McGee or Paul/Payne/Shamet/Cam/McGee.

Or throw Bridges in some of those lineups..even at the 4 if needed at times...or play him and Cam together...whatever. They are about the same weight and Bridges has the longer wingspan and has guarded plenty of 4s. We already have lots of options due to our improved guard depth.

I think Book has improved as a defender enough to guard the 3. He already took the assignment quite a bit in the playoffs.

Do you disagree with the minutes? Even if Book plays 34 (usually plays more in past), Paul drops 3.5 mpg to 28, do you think Payne and Shamet deserve more than a combined 26 minutes, or 13 on avg each?

[Saberestar]

Maybe it wasn't you but it seems you felt we had one of the deepest teams last year. I know we don't have Saric, but he's basically been replaced by McGee who is a bigger necessity for rebounding/rim protection, and Shamet, who is better than any 4th guard we have. It does feel like you posted about depth prior to us trading for Craig too, who we did after the Nader injury. We have a tad less depth at 3/4 but also that is the position with the most versatile depth as well, and 3 guys show could play in the high 20 minutes, with potentially a few minutes left over for either Nader or Smith if needed or they are ready. This would likely be only be a couple minutes to end the 1st/start the 2nd if they were used. I do like Young, but not sure likely 1 year of him is worth it, though I think he could help. Still seems he could get a better opportunity elsewhere.

Yeah, that was me but a couple things has changed since last season.

First, this season is gonna be 10 games longer. That is a factor.

Secondly, in this season expectations are much higher for us. We just were trying to get to the playoffs last season and we exceeded expectations but this season we are gonna have pressure since the first game.

We have imporved our backup SG but we lack that fourth SF/PF. I know that some are high on Nader but he has never been a rotation player on a full season in the NBA. I do not want to rely on him or Jalen Smith on a nightly basis.

And Saric is more versatile than McGee. Worst at rebounding and shot blocking but he could play next to Ayton if needed...that possibility is not there anymore.

I still think we have a lot of options regarding the 4th SF/PF. As I have previously mentioned, I expect Jae, Cam and Bridges to play a lot of minutes.

But with Shamet now there, I also feel that with Booker and Paul likely playing a lot of minutes. Say Booker 34 at least and CP3 probably 30. I know some think/want Paul to play less, but he has never played less than 31 and he WANTS to play. Even when he was banged up his years in Houston or last in LA he was over 31, and each of the last two years. I think at minimum he plays 28 but likely more like 30.

But I think Payne and Shamet can play more than the remaining 26 minutes left between the guard spots. This gives us the ability with reserve units to go small, and sometimes maybe play Payne/Shamet/Book/Cam/McGee or Paul/Payne/Shamet/Cam/McGee.

Or throw Bridges in some of those lineups..even at the 4 if needed at times...or play him and Cam together...whatever. They are about the same weight and Bridges has the longer wingspan and has guarded plenty of 4s. We already have lots of options due to our improved guard depth.

I think Book has improved as a defender enough to guard the 3. He already took the assignment quite a bit in the playoffs.

Do you disagree with the minutes? Even if Book plays 34 (usually plays more in past), Paul drops 3.5 mpg to 28, do you think Payne and Shamet deserve more than a combined 26 minutes, or 13 on avg each?

It is not that disagree with the minutes, it's that I expect an injury at some point from any of our top seven/eight players.

Just imagine Booker, Crowder, Mikal or Cam J goes down with an injury for a couple months (or even just a month). If we have someone like Thad Young on the roster we would be perfectly fine, because he can play over 30 mpg and give you great production.

It is just to be prepared for a long season as a contender.

[bwgood77]

Yeah, that was me but a couple things has changed since last season.

First, this season is gonna be 10 games longer. That is a factor.

Secondly, in this season expectations are much higher for us. We just were trying to get to the playoffs last season and we exceeded expectations but this season we are gonna have pressure since the first game.

We have imporved our backup SG but we lack that fourth SF/PF. I know that some are high on Nader but he has never been a rotation player on a full season in the NBA. I do not want to rely on him or Jalen Smith on a nightly basis.

And Saric is more versatile than McGee. Worst at rebounding and shot blocking but he could play next to Ayton if needed...that possibility is not there anymore.

I still think we have a lot of options regarding the 4th SF/PF. As I have previously mentioned, I expect Jae, Cam and Bridges to play a lot of minutes.

But with Shamet now there, I also feel that with Booker and Paul likely playing a lot of minutes. Say Booker 34 at least and CP3 probably 30. I know some think/want Paul to play less, but he has never played less than 31 and he WANTS to play. Even when he was banged up his years in Houston or last in LA he was over 31, and each of the last two years. I think at minimum he plays 28 but likely more like 30.

But I think Payne and Shamet can play more than the remaining 26 minutes left between the guard spots. This gives us the ability with reserve units to go small, and sometimes maybe play Payne/Shamet/Book/Cam/McGee or Paul/Payne/Shamet/Cam/McGee.

Or throw Bridges in some of those lineups..even at the 4 if needed at times...or play him and Cam together...whatever. They are about the same weight and Bridges has the longer wingspan and has guarded plenty of 4s. We already have lots of options due to our improved guard depth.

I think Book has improved as a defender enough to guard the 3. He already took the assignment quite a bit in the playoffs.

Do you disagree with the minutes? Even if Book plays 34 (usually plays more in past), Paul drops 3.5 mpg to 28, do you think Payne and Shamet deserve more than a combined 26 minutes, or 13 on avg each?

It is not that disagree with the minutes, it's that I expect an injury at some point from any of our top seven/eight players.

Just imagine Booker, Crowder, Mikal or Cam J goes down with an injury for a couple months (or even just a month). If we have someone like Thad Young on the roster we would be perfectly fine, because he can play over 30 mpg and give you great production.

It is just to be prepared for a long season as a contender.

I agree with the injury part, but I also feel like some people will not get enough minutes/be happy when everyone is healthy. I still think we are one of the deeper teams in the league when it comes to having solid rotation players.

Even with an injury it will primarily be the regular rotation guys picking up more minutes. This past year would have hurt and did hurt in the playoffs when Paul, Booker or Payne were injured, but now we have that 4th guard. And for the emergency guard/Sf/PF/C who would still only usually play a few minutes with an injury, we still have Payton, Nader and Frank. And Smith.

There are still some decent PFs out there like Mike Scott and Patrick Patterson as well. Those guys played 15-17 mpg last year for Philly and the Clippers, and can both shoot the 3. Obviously they are not Thad Young but are FA who we could sign without giving up anything and are solid for a 14th roster spot.

[lilfishi22]

I hoped that we would draft Smith and we did. I still would like to see what he can do. I like Saric and was am willing to wait for his return. I have been against this trade since the beginning but am starting to warm up to it.

I believe one of the most important things he did for the Bulls was rebounding and ball movement. In 24 minutes per game last year he averaged 6.2 Rebound and a career high of 4.3 assists. Monte's .5 offense is built on ball movement. It seems as though he could be a very good fit. I just do not know how Monte is going to get him 24 minutes a night, unless he sits Crowder or Johnson. I think all three of Crowder, Johnson and Bridges have earned their minutes on this team and do not deserve to have them cut. Maybe we can get them to throw in Drew Eubanks or something else.

Now I talked myself out of this trade.

I like our team as is. Sign the best player available for the 15th spot.

As we are built right now we don't have enough deep going into an 82-games season as a contender.

We are one injury away to have serious problems in the rotation. It is pretty sure that we are gonna have to deal with some injury or bad condition/struggling from any player at some point and I wouldn't want to play Nader or Jalen Smith 25 mpg on a nightly basis.

You talk about giving Cam J, Bridges and Crowder a lot of deserved minutes at SF/PF...imagine one being down for a couple months. We would be in trouble.

We need one more good player IMO. We are contenders, depth is a must so we need one more known commodity in the roster. Nader or Jalen Smith aren't a sure thing, I like them but not on an overplayed role for next season.

Maybe it wasn't you but it seems you felt we had one of the deepest teams last year. I know we don't have Saric, but he's basically been replaced by McGee who is a bigger necessity for rebounding/rim protection, and Shamet, who is better than any 4th guard we have. It does feel like you posted about depth prior to us trading for Craig too, who we did after the Nader injury. We have a tad less depth at 3/4 but also that is the position with the most versatile depth as well, and 3 guys show could play in the high 20 minutes, with potentially a few minutes left over for either Nader or Smith if needed or they are ready. This would likely be only be a couple minutes to end the 1st/start the 2nd if they were used. I do like Young, but not sure likely 1 year of him is worth it, though I think he could help. Still seems he could get a better opportunity elsewhere.

And a healthy Saric wasn't enough. He had a stretch of maybe 10-15 games all season where he looked really good, could do quite a few things for us and imo outplayed Ayton but aside from that, he's been undeniably crap.

I mentioned before in another post, Saric + McGee last year would've been the depth we could've used. Getting McGee a year late and essentially replacing Saric with an even less proven commodity (Smith) means we've likely taken a step back. Unless of course Smith beats all expectations and/or Cam kills it as a 4. I don't really think we're LESS deep than last year but expectations were different this time around. We put together a team last season that was a likely a good playoff team, possibly 2nd round exit type of team because we didn't have the success to prove that we should go all in. This season, we have that swagger, we had that deep playoff run, we kept the key guys and we *should* have really stacked the roster. Every contender does it or at least tries to and I still don't think we've done that.

As for Young, it just depends what it's for. Giving up another future FRP, in addition to Smith and considering we already gave one up for Shamet, I don't think I'd go that far. But if there's no picks (maybe 2nds) and it's just Smith and Saric, I'd probably do it. Remember, Saric probably own't play this season and next season he'll be on his last year of his deal anyway and likely won't look 100% throughout. Smith...yeah you know my thoughts on the kids. I think it's a reasonable trade and one that I feel like we've seen other contenders make in the past.

[bwgood77]

As we are built right now we don't have enough deep going into an 82-games season as a contender.

We are one injury away to have serious problems in the rotation. It is pretty sure that we are gonna have to deal with some injury or bad condition/struggling from any player at some point and I wouldn't want to play Nader or Jalen Smith 25 mpg on a nightly basis.

You talk about giving Cam J, Bridges and Crowder a lot of deserved minutes at SF/PF...imagine one being down for a couple months. We would be in trouble.

We need one more good player IMO. We are contenders, depth is a must so we need one more known commodity in the roster. Nader or Jalen Smith aren't a sure thing, I like them but not on an overplayed role for next season.

Maybe it wasn't you but it seems you felt we had one of the deepest teams last year. I know we don't have Saric, but he's basically been replaced by McGee who is a bigger necessity for rebounding/rim protection, and Shamet, who is better than any 4th guard we have. It does feel like you posted about depth prior to us trading for Craig too, who we did after the Nader injury. We have a tad less depth at 3/4 but also that is the position with the most versatile depth as well, and 3 guys show could play in the high 20 minutes, with potentially a few minutes left over for either Nader or Smith if needed or they are ready. This would likely be only be a couple minutes to end the 1st/start the 2nd if they were used. I do like Young, but not sure likely 1 year of him is worth it, though I think he could help. Still seems he could get a better opportunity elsewhere.

And a healthy Saric wasn't enough. He had a stretch of maybe 10-15 games all season where he looked really good, could do quite a few things for us and imo outplayed Ayton but aside from that, he's been undeniably crap.

I mentioned before in another post, Saric + McGee last year would've been the depth we could've used. Getting McGee a year late and essentially replacing Saric with an even less proven commodity (Smith) means we've likely taken a step back. Unless of course Smith beats all expectations and/or Cam kills it as a 4. I don't really think we're LESS deep than last year but expectations were different this time around. We put together a team last season that was a likely a good playoff team, possibly 2nd round exit type of team because we didn't have the success to prove that we should go all in. This season, we have that swagger, we had that deep playoff run, we kept the key guys and we *should* have really stacked the roster. Every contender does it or at least tries to and I still don't think we've done that.

As for Young, it just depends what it's for. Giving up another future FRP, in addition to Smith and considering we already gave one up for Shamet, I don't think I'd go that far. But if there's no picks (maybe 2nds) and it's just Smith and Saric, I'd probably do it. Remember, Saric probably own't play this season and next season he'll be on his last year of his deal anyway and likely won't look 100% throughout. Smith...yeah you know my thoughts on the kids. I think it's a reasonable trade and one that I feel like we've seen other contenders make in the past.

I'd be good without trading a pick, but I'd also be fine keeping Smith. He still has some work to do, mainly on his shooting inside the arc but I think that will look better playing with actual NBA players. Most everything else I saw I liked....his handle impressed me..a lot better at that than I expected. But I do like a great rebounding stretch 4/5 who can shoot 3s on high volume. Those players are pretty important these days and more and more teams are adding them for a different look and opening up the lane for guys to drive to the rim.

Even if he just bombed 3s on offense and attracted a defender and crashed the boards on defense I think he provides value, and I think it's pretty certain he can do those things.

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Shank is the insurance policy if Smith flounders or injury to DA, McGee or Jae

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[bwgood77]

Shank is the insurance policy if Smith flounders or injury to DA, McGee or Jae

Yay

C'mon, he was a stud here in the finals.

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[suns12345]

Shank is the insurance policy if Smith flounders or injury to DA, McGee or Jae

Yay

C'mon, he was a stud here in the finals.

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Man, signature game. unreal!

[darealjuice]

I personally think moving for a back-up power forward like Thad Young is more of a midseason move. They drafted Jalen Smith at 10 less than a year ago and our rotation has about 10-15 minutes available at power forward. Might as well give him a shot to break into the rotation, and if he shows he's not a fit then fill that gap and/or ship him out. I definitely wouldn't throw another first round pick in though.

I'm a fan of Young, I'm just curious if we'd be keeping him around past this year. He's honestly the type of power forward that Jalen Smith should aim to be. More rebounding and 3-point shooting and less skilled, but a versatile inside-out power forward that fills the stat sheet.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Shank is the insurance policy if Smith flounders or injury to DA, McGee or Jae

Yay

As impressive as Kaminsky has shown himself to be, Which must have been a huge factor in bringing him back at such a steep price, It might be beneficial for us to actually consider at least one more frontcourt signing to back up the Shank. For the veteran's minimum, Isiah Hartenstein is actually more intriguing than I originally thought.
He's actually very versatile for a 7 ft 250 lb 4/5 option with a great motor and aggressive style of play. I understand that the Shank is priceless to our front office, But if he may in fact move on next summer for a bigger role?? Then Hartenstein might be a very strong consideration for his replacement.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/kingjamesgospel.com/2021/08/16/cavs-attend-isaiah-hartenstein-workout-still-potential-back/amp/

Hartenstein averaged 8.3 points, 6.0 rebounds, 2.5 assists and 1.2 blocks in 17.9 minutes per contest in 16 appearances.

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Donta Hall could be that really explosive physical electrifying big man 3rd string 4/5 ( 2 -Way) addition that could bring the energy, physicality, tenacity and most of all that " edge" to our team lacks at times when we become passive at times. His explosive plays would/ could fire up our team as needed. He's basically 6'10 230lbs with a 7'5 wingspan. Think of him as a supercharged more explosive version of Montrez Harrell.

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Norvelle Pelle
He'd be the ultimate rim protecting defensive compliment to Kaminsky playing at the 3rd string 4, with Pelle at the 3rd string 5. Pelle would patrol the paint as a shotblocking monster, allowing Kaminsky utilize his ultra finesse style of play absent of athleticism or talent at the 3rd rotation 4. But will absolutely shut down any opposition at the rim or in the paint. So Kaminsky will only have to focus on figuring out how to score.

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Ideally, Hsrtenstein would replace Kaminsky at the end of the season, And with Young replacing Sarics' role, either Hall or Pelle will be interchangeable with Hartenstein in the frontcourt. Of course either Hall or Pelle being brought in on a two way or exhibit 10.
But they'd bring something this team severely lacks in physicality/ athleticism/ toughness/ and constant relentless energy with would become contagious to the rest of our occasionally passive finesse players.

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[Jdiddy701]

I personally think moving for a back-up power forward like Thad Young is more of a midseason move. They drafted Jalen Smith at 10 less than a year ago and our rotation has about 10-15 minutes available at power forward. Might as well give him a shot to break into the rotation, and if he shows he's not a fit then fill that gap and/or ship him out. I definitely wouldn't throw another first round pick in though.

I'm a fan of Young, I'm just curious if we'd be keeping him around past this year. He's honestly the type of power forward that Jalen Smith should aim to be. More rebounding and 3-point shooting and less skilled, but a versatile inside-out power forward that fills the stat sheet.

Great point! No need to make a trade now. See what we have in Jalen Smith and make the trade around the deadline for him or someone better if the Suns don’t think he’s ready to contribute. If Jalen Smith plays to his potential, he’s literally the best option for us going forward - having him in his rookie contract and being able to contribute is HUGE.


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[Bogyo]

As we are built right now we don't have enough deep going into an 82-games season as a contender.

We are one injury away to have serious problems in the rotation. It is pretty sure that we are gonna have to deal with some injury or bad condition/struggling from any player at some point and I wouldn't want to play Nader or Jalen Smith 25 mpg on a nightly basis.

You talk about giving Cam J, Bridges and Crowder a lot of deserved minutes at SF/PF...imagine one being down for a couple months. We would be in trouble.

We need one more good player IMO. We are contenders, depth is a must so we need one more known commodity in the roster. Nader or Jalen Smith aren't a sure thing, I like them but not on an overplayed role for next season.

Maybe it wasn't you but it seems you felt we had one of the deepest teams last year. I know we don't have Saric, but he's basically been replaced by McGee who is a bigger necessity for rebounding/rim protection, and Shamet, who is better than any 4th guard we have. It does feel like you posted about depth prior to us trading for Craig too, who we did after the Nader injury. We have a tad less depth at 3/4 but also that is the position with the most versatile depth as well, and 3 guys show could play in the high 20 minutes, with potentially a few minutes left over for either Nader or Smith if needed or they are ready. This would likely be only be a couple minutes to end the 1st/start the 2nd if they were used. I do like Young, but not sure likely 1 year of him is worth it, though I think he could help. Still seems he could get a better opportunity elsewhere.

And a healthy Saric wasn't enough. He had a stretch of maybe 10-15 games all season where he looked really good, could do quite a few things for us and imo outplayed Ayton but aside from that, he's been undeniably crap.

I mentioned before in another post, Saric + McGee last year would've been the depth we could've used. Getting McGee a year late and essentially replacing Saric with an even less proven commodity (Smith) means we've likely taken a step back. Unless of course Smith beats all expectations and/or Cam kills it as a 4. I don't really think we're LESS deep than last year but expectations were different this time around. We put together a team last season that was a likely a good playoff team, possibly 2nd round exit type of team because we didn't have the success to prove that we should go all in. This season, we have that swagger, we had that deep playoff run, we kept the key guys and we *should* have really stacked the roster. Every contender does it or at least tries to and I still don't think we've done that.

As for Young, it just depends what it's for. Giving up another future FRP, in addition to Smith and considering we already gave one up for Shamet, I don't think I'd go that far. But if there's no picks (maybe 2nds) and it's just Smith and Saric, I'd probably do it. Remember, Saric probably own't play this season and next season he'll be on his last year of his deal anyway and likely won't look 100% throughout. Smith...yeah you know my thoughts on the kids. I think it's a reasonable trade and one that I feel like we've seen other contenders make in the past.

I've been saying those too. Your message is fully approved by Bogyo.

While I like the team, chemistry, players - I would have explored (made) a trade to REALLY upgrade our top 6-7 from the guys that played in the Finals, and I don't think we have done that. For that I'm pretty sure we would have had to trade one of Crowder or Cam, our pick, Smith and maybe a filler (could have been Jevon while we had him).

Oh well, I'll enjoy next season too, I think with this depth we can be a good 55-62 win team, and go to the 2nd round again easy. From there on out its a bit trickier, and will likely have to include some luck again, but it's like that every year, I haven't really seen anybody in the last 30 years getting through a playoffs against always fully healthy opponents.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Think it might be a mid-season move too but does that mean we play with 14 to keep flexibility?

[Barkley6]

I personally think moving for a back-up power forward like Thad Young is more of a midseason move. They drafted Jalen Smith at 10 less than a year ago and our rotation has about 10-15 minutes available at power forward. Might as well give him a shot to break into the rotation, and if he shows he's not a fit then fill that gap and/or ship him out. I definitely wouldn't throw another first round pick in though.

I'm a fan of Young, I'm just curious if we'd be keeping him around past this year. He's honestly the type of power forward that Jalen Smith should aim to be. More rebounding and 3-point shooting and less skilled, but a versatile inside-out power forward that fills the stat sheet.

While I agree in some respects, we can't necessarily dictate the timeline here. If Young is on the block now, we need to pursue him, because if not, someone else will and he may not be available around the deadline. If he gets bought out especially, then we can't afford to sit and wait. Same scenario in a Kevin Love buyout.

Yes, there could be other options for us at the trade deadline, but at this point, we don't know who those will be, or what they will cost.

Similarly to the way people are bemoaning missing out on McGee at last years deadline, we might be sitting here at this years deadline thinking Saric+Smith for Young was a bargain.

On your second point, I think if we make a similarly deep run or win it all, Young would definitely stay, and for much cheaper than his current deal. Young has NEVER been on a contender in his 15 year career. I don't think he's going to give up that opportunity. Further, he's played in Philly, Minnesota, Brooklyn, Indiana and Chicago in his career. I think the Phoenix weather and lifestyle might have some appeal to him as well.

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if only he didn't hate us so bad.