Suns Emerge As Contenders For Dampier

[JohnVancouver]

I don't think Damp fits in here at all... please don't waste money on him. I rather players like Hakim, Frye, Lawal, and Lopez get more mins.

+1. All he will do is steal minutes away from those guys.

He;s used to playing heavy minutes, and for him to be sitting on the end of the bench every game will only disrupt chemistry.

I'm in as well - they must have seen good things in DJones, to reacquire him and I thought Siler was pretty good in Vancouver - he needs to drop more weight but he was in there after boards and got some nice putbacks. I think if he gets his body right, he can be an important piece for us

Can't see why we need Eric or why he'd be happy here

[RunDogGun]

I'm in as well - they must have seen good things in DJones, to reacquire him and I thought Siler was pretty good in Vancouver - he needs to drop more weight but he was in there after boards and got some nice putbacks. I think if he gets his body right, he can be an important piece for us

Can't see why we need Eric or why he'd be happy here

The only thing I didn't like about Siler, was when he allowed Dorsey to just shove him under the net on that defensive rebound. Siler has to out weight Dorsey by at least 50 lb. You can't allow yourself to get pushed out of position by someone that much smaller than you. Plus he fouled out in ten minutes. If we are going to keep someone like that, I would expect someone from the other team having to visit the hospital from one of those fouls.

[NYK 455]

Dampier would be a great pick up for you guys. He brings the size, defense, and rebounding you guys need.

[-SDU-]

damp is a big fat piece of turd... BUT i want him here.

Fact is he is better than any other backup big we have (I dont count frye because hes a perimeter big).

Lopez showed yesterday and last year that he is still raw, foul prone and lets not forget his injuries. We need a veteran big banger body to back him up and replace him if he goes down, and dampier is far better than anything else we have on our roster

bring him in. Id be amazed if he came here - does he not remember all the abuse he copped during those playoff series against us?

[DRK]

I don't know if we can give Dampier the minutes he could get on, well, any of those other teams. Lopez and Frye will spend about all their combined time at center since Hedo, Warrick, Lawal and Clark are all fighting over PF minutes. So Lopez and Frye combined should easily be 48 minutes...we'd be using Damp for like 2 minutes per game, if that - possibly benching him until injuries arise. Don't know if he'd bite on that.

Well, the only way Dampier could get significant play time is if he is a direct backup center to Lopez.

In order for that to happen, Frye has to become a power forward.

In order for Frye to become a power forward, Hedo must slide to his natural small forward.

In order for Hedo to be small forward, Dudley or Childress have to fall out of rotation.

Get the flow?

C Nash - Dragic - Janning
F Rich - Child - Janning
F Hedo - Hill - Dudley
G Frye - Warrick - Clark
G Lopez - Dampier - Lawal

Nash is our starting center???


And no. I don't get your flow.

[BurningHeart]

I don't know if we can give Dampier the minutes he could get on, well, any of those other teams. Lopez and Frye will spend about all their combined time at center since Hedo, Warrick, Lawal and Clark are all fighting over PF minutes. So Lopez and Frye combined should easily be 48 minutes...we'd be using Damp for like 2 minutes per game, if that - possibly benching him until injuries arise. Don't know if he'd bite on that.

Well, the only way Dampier could get significant play time is if he is a direct backup center to Lopez.

In order for that to happen, Frye has to become a power forward.

In order for Frye to become a power forward, Hedo must slide to his natural small forward.

In order for Hedo to be small forward, Dudley or Childress have to fall out of rotation.

Get the flow?

C Nash - Dragic - Janning
F Rich - Child - Janning
F Hedo - Hill - Dudley
G Frye - Warrick - Clark
G Lopez - Dampier - Lawal

What in God's name.

[JasonDaPsycho]

I don't want him here in Phoenix. I'd rather see him in Chicago because he has a purpose playing in Chi town, whereas he'll be a bench warmer here in Phoenix, or in the worst case scenario, he actually gets consistent PT.

[DRK]

I don't want him here in Phoenix. I'd rather see him in Chicago because he has a purpose playing in Chi town, whereas he'll be a bench warmer here in Phoenix, or in the worst case scenario, he actually gets consistent PT.

+1

End of discussion folks.

[DRK]

Dampier to meet with Suns oon Thursday and Friday.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepubli ... visit.html

I dont know.. After thinking about it a bit more.
I actually don't think Lopez is ready to take on all the interior defensive responsibilities, or even be our full time starting center? I think Lopez will be 100% ready to start for us next season and play 35+ MPG next season, not this season.

Last season Lopez had a very simple job, as Amare drew so much of the defense's attention to him. I dont know how Lopez will cope without Amare. After seeing the last two pre season games, my worries has increased a little bit.

So, if Dampier is picked up, it can not harm the team in any way?

[Wormwood74]

Sunsman44's right...sort of.

If we acquire Dampier, it means at least one guy will get pushed out of the rotation (depending on how the rotation is worked). Warrick, Dudley, Hill, and Childress are the ones most likely to be affected by by the acquisition of Dampier.

Lopez and Dampier are both natural centers, and Channing Frye would either lose out minutes, or be moved to his more natural PF spot. If the latter is the case:

Frye would become our back up or starting PF. If he takes the back up spot behind Hedo, then it's Warrick that gets pushed out.

If Frye becomes the starting PF, then Hedo likely becomes the starting SF. This case results in Hill, Dudley, and Childress scrambling for minutes behind Hedo and JRich.

If Frye becomes starting PF, and Hedo becomes the back up PF, then Warrick is the one who loses the most minutes.

[rsavaj]

Sunsman44's right...sort of.

If we acquire Dampier, it means at least one guy will get pushed out of the rotation (depending on how the rotation is worked). Warrick, Dudley, Hill, and Childress are the ones most likely to be affected by by the acquisition of Dampier.

Lopez and Dampier are both natural centers, and Channing Frye would either lose out minutes, or be moved to his more natural PF spot. If the latter is the case:

Frye would become our back up or starting PF. If he takes the back up spot behind Hedo, then it's Warrick that gets pushed out.

If Frye becomes the starting PF, then Hedo likely becomes the starting SF. This case results in Hill, Dudley, and Childress scrambling for minutes behind Hedo and JRich.

If Frye becomes starting PF, and Hedo becomes the back up PF, then Warrick is the one who loses the most minutes.

If we acquire Dampier it means that he's a 3rd string center who will step in for spot-duty in case of matchups or injuries.

He's the 11th man.

[YFZblu]

I think Dampier would be a great insurance policy. Lopez looks to be in some significant foul trouble next season, and who knows how his back will hold up. Considering that, I say bring him on board, I'd love to have him.

[Wormwood74]

We're not going to sign him to the bi-annual exception if we don't intend to play him at least 20 minutes a night.

So....logically....if it is true we're offering him to the bi-annual exception as Coro is reporting, then our intention if for him to be a rotation player, ergo the analysis posted above remains valid.

[lilfishi22]

If we move Warrick (settle down guys, I'm just saying) then Frye could play the 4 off the bench while Dampier comes on for Lopez. It's the only way we could logically give Dampier the minutes worth signing him to a bi-annual exception.

[th3matrix1]

I'd rather have jones, but he'll be fine too. Just don't want them to pay him too much. At jones type money, I'd take him.

[lilfishi22]

I like Jones, but the problem is that what we need is a big body who can block shots and defend bigs. Jones is kind of a bigger version of Lou. Great rebounder but does get abused in the post since he's not that strong and at 6-11, he is a bit undersized.

[collidingNeurons]

I like Jones, but the problem is that what we need is a big body who can block shots and defend bigs. Jones is kind of a bigger version of Lou. Great rebounder but does get abused in the post since he's not that strong and at 6-11, he is a bit undersized.

no where but the nba does a bit undersized come up when discussing someone 6'11''

[Frank Lee]

Jones is a fierce rebounder... its about all he excels in. He looks strong enough to handle who ever. I don't know if Dampier would gives us that much more, defensively. The fact that PHNX is even considering him leads me to suspect they have interior worries or concerns about durability.

I'll leave this one up to the boys in the Big Office. Acquiring him adds to our trade chip pile for december. Perhaps they are thinking ahead, I mean, its kind of what they are supposed to do. And hey, its not my money. I would not want to lock him up for more than this yr though.

I have just never liked the guy.

[realsunsfan]

I don't really like the guy either FRANK, but if we look at it without any bias, he can really help us. He is basically a big 7 footer with good size that can defend in the post either man or zone and can block shots, I don't think his offense really matters but he can score a little if needed. Right now we have a lot of good perimeter defenders now especially Hill and Jchill so we are basically going to force the other teams offense right to our weakness on defense. I think Damp is a decent defender in the post and would much rather have him backing up Lopez as our big low post defender with his experience and familiarity with all the bigs in the league than Jones or Siler. Now that's not to say I don't like Jones or Siler because I do like the both of them, but Damp is just a better option right now mainly because of his experience and familiarity as I mentioned above, and his size (weight) and reach make a difference.

[JohnVancouver]

Sounds like Dampier is better than I recall him being - I was always sort of underwhelmed by the guy in Dallas. Is there much Lopex, Lawal, Siler etc can learn from, does he have value to us beyond being a spare big man?

edit: just did some quick research and about everybody thinks higher of Damp than I do -

I just hate to lose any of the guys we have. I'm real interested in Jones and Siler