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Re: P.J. Tucker 

Post#41 » by TASTIC » Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:46 pm

b-ball forever wrote:Tucker is a solid role player who does the dirty work and has a nice contract, but I hope that he and Frye won't eat into Goodwin, Green, and the twins' playtime too much now that Dragic is back. Maybe Len can eat into Frye's playtime a lil too.

That's exactly what I'm worried about. Tucker is a known commodity who isn't going to get better (maybe from deep) and he has had time off the bench and as a starter, and has been productive in both roles.

Goodwin looks a bit sharper on the defensive end than offensive to be honest - which was a surprise. That length really bothers opposing guards...
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Post#42 » by Saberestar » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:50 pm

rsavaj wrote:You need guys like Tucker on a successful team. All hustle, all heart. Above average defender, great teammate.


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Post#43 » by bwgood77 » Fri Oct 7, 2016 5:05 am

Keep him or trade him and why?
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Post#44 » by lilfishi22 » Fri Oct 7, 2016 5:37 am

KEEP

Cheap, good locker room/training presence and guaranteed to give 110% every game no matter if he's playing 2mpg or 30mpg. With young players in multiple positions, it would be good to have a veteran presence/continuity around while also being able to sub into those different positions when the young guys aren't performing.
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Post#45 » by Damkac » Fri Oct 7, 2016 7:02 am

Trade. With Chandler, Dudley and Barbosa Suns have enought veteran presence.

BTW nice thread necromancy :P
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Post#46 » by Saberestar » Fri Oct 7, 2016 6:46 pm

lilfishi22 wrote:KEEP

Cheap, good locker room/training presence and guaranteed to give 110% every game no matter if he's playing 2mpg or 30mpg. With young players in multiple positions, it would be good to have a veteran presence/continuity around while also being able to sub into those different positions when the young guys aren't performing.

I agree, and I would add that he really cares about the Suns.
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Post#47 » by NTB » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:00 pm

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“This might be the most highly motivated year I’ve had in my career,” Tucker said. “People tend to think you get comfortable because you’ve been on a team so long. I’m pushing myself. I’ve been on the sideline pushing my teammates. I’ve been here a long time and I haven’t made the playoffs yet. It may be a contract year, but more than anything, I want to make playoffs. That’s the only thing I’m thinking about right now.”


“It felt good sitting down and being able to move because I could not do that before the surgery,” Tucker said.

“After you get hurt, you get the atrophy. I really haven’t done anything in three months so you’ve got rebuild all the stuff you normally do.”


“Play it by ear,” Tucker said. “I’m just falling in, doing my job. Whatever they decide and however it plays out, I got no problem with earning my keeps. I work for my food. I ain’t got no problem with that."


“I’m not looking to come back early,” Tucker said. “I’m looking to come back on time. I’m doing exactly what the trainers and doctors say. This might be the hardest work I’ve done since I’ve been a pro.

“I don’t want to kill my ironman of not missing games, but I’m going to do what the docs tell me to do. I’m not going to push myself. Normally, I do. I want to make sure I’m OK before I go back and be able to actually help the team. I don’t care how many wins Vegas says we’re going to get this year. We’re going to go out and grind. We’re going to be some dogs this year.”
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Post#48 » by jcsunsfan » Mon Oct 10, 2016 4:35 pm

If they feel obligated to start him, then they need to trade him. If Watson can bring himself to give PJ some DNPCD's sometimes then I am ok keeping him--otherwise he is just a detriment to the development of TJ and Bender.
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Post#49 » by lilfishi22 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:11 pm

I doubt there's any obligation to start him based on tenure. If he was to start it's either because TJ isn't productive or things isn't working for TJ on the defensive end of the court. Suns management and coaching staff seem very high on getting TJ back after missing much of last season and they want to get some return on investment.
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Post#50 » by bwgood77 » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:14 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:If they feel obligated to start him, then they need to trade him. If Watson can bring himself to give PJ some DNPCD's sometimes then I am ok keeping him--otherwise he is just a detriment to the development of TJ and Bender.


When Watson stated who the starters were for the first preseason game didn't he also explicity state that these would also be the starters for the regular season? I'd be real surprised if he went back on that.
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Post#51 » by KPCB34 » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:58 am

I have never been a big fan of Tucker but I can see where he adds value to this team as a role player off the bench, I really hope that he doesn't start for us this season. If he does end up starting at some point it probably means that either TJ isn't performing to the level we need him to or that more injuries may have occurred.
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Post#52 » by DRK » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:00 am

We have to remember PJ was a Summer League "bench warmer," who evolved from a training camp body into a starter within a year.
If anyone PJ is the least likely to have an ego on the team, and will be one of the most inclined to accept a lesser role due to his past.

I would like to see PJ come off the bench, playing as a 2,3 or 4. In his first season he was starting at the 2, by second season he was our SF, and last year we deployed him at PF for stretches.

20mins a night for PJ playing either one of those positions off the bench would be his ideal role for this team, and ideal role at this point in his NBA career. His versatility is going to be very valuable for this squad, and his work ethic and toughness would be great for the young ones.

Can only imagine the practice sessions Watson plans... Booker learning how to post up against PJ would be an acceleration in development to the moon.
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Post#53 » by bwgood77 » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:24 am

DRK wrote:We have to remember PJ was a Summer League "bench warmer," who evolved from a training camp body into a starter within a year.
If anyone PJ is the least likely to have an ego on the team, and will be one of the most inclined to accept a lesser role due to his past.

I would like to see PJ come off the bench, playing as a 2,3 or 4. In his first season he was starting at the 2, by second season he was our SF, and last year we deployed him at PF for stretches.

20mins a night for PJ playing either one of those positions off the bench would be his ideal role for this team, and ideal role at this point in his NBA career. His versatility is going to be very valuable for this squad, and his work ethic and toughness would be great for the young ones.

Can only imagine the practice sessions Watson plans... Booker learning how to post up against PJ would be an acceleration in development to the moon.


Yeah, if Tucker accepts that type of role and gives it his all while in there and with low usage and decent defense, I think that's a good thing. Any time Chandler or Len are injured, we can run a Knight/Barbosa/Tucker/Bender/Chriss second unit. Bender doesn't need to have too much offense either right now but shows good defensive skills guarding guys on the perimeter and blocking shots. He is also a good passer, and Knight and Chriss seem to have good chemistry. I think that's a solid second unit with two good vets and a primary scorer in Knight.
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Post#54 » by Qwigglez » Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:30 am

DRK wrote:We have to remember PJ was a Summer League "bench warmer," who evolved from a training camp body into a starter within a year.
If anyone PJ is the least likely to have an ego on the team, and will be one of the most inclined to accept a lesser role due to his past.

I would like to see PJ come off the bench, playing as a 2,3 or 4. In his first season he was starting at the 2, by second season he was our SF, and last year we deployed him at PF for stretches.

20mins a night for PJ playing either one of those positions off the bench would be his ideal role for this team, and ideal role at this point in his NBA career. His versatility is going to be very valuable for this squad, and his work ethic and toughness would be great for the young ones.

Can only imagine the practice sessions Watson plans... Booker learning how to post up against PJ would be an acceleration in development to the moon.


Very, very solid point DRK. Some reason I had this idea in my head that PJ had to play since he was a vet and because he had seniority that he would play a ton of minutes over our younger guys. If he could accept a lesser role, and I think he is capable of that then I wouldn't mind keeping him on the squad. Warren should be starting though.
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Post#55 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:09 pm

I voted "keep him" but with one caveat - I don't want him playing next to Dudley. If he can get some PT next to Chriss, or at the PF next to Warren, that's fine with me. I'd like to see this team make the playoffs.
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Post#56 » by NTB » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:38 pm

If he won't try to make plays in a fastbreak situation then I'm OK with him.
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Post#57 » by Phystic » Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:12 am

I like Tucker. I've liked Tucker ever since he joined our roster. Though the last year he's been trying to do too much offensively which is not his game. I've always loved him in the Tony Allen type role. I don't think he's as good of a perimeter defender as Allen, but he's bit more versatile, due to his size. And he's better offensively than Allen is.

Tucker has been the heart and soul of our team since he's been here. He goes hard every minute he's on the court whether be practice, preseason or regular season. In my opinion there is ALWAYS a roster spot on the Suns for a guy like that. And I think he can be invaluable to the evolution of Booker and Warren. Warren needs to learn defensive positioning, and Tucker is the perfect mentor for him. And Booker needs to learn to fight through defenders that will rough him up and stay with him on the NBA level.

I also think he and Chandler are going to be big lynch pins in the locker room. I'm not expecting(and if I'm being honest, nor do I WANT) a playoff birth this year. But I want a healthy year, where our guys can gain some chemistry and bond. The few years where it was clear our team LIKED playing with each other you could see a vast difference on the court. And it makes watching them so much more fun, win or lose.
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Post#58 » by NTB » Thu Oct 20, 2016 3:49 pm

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