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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#41 » by Cutter » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:24 am

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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#42 » by BurningHeart » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:24 am

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What happened to the "bumpy ride" acoming?


It hasn't been very long since that post was made.

You people need to stop talking **** about Ray Ray.

#1) He's verified. There's a process that he goes through to prove the legitimacy of him and his sources.

#2) Many other insiders have came and went because they were treated like crap by spoiled, **** fans criticizing and doubting them.

#3) Ray Ray's posts are vague for a reason. Sometimes it's all he can divulge, sometimes it's all he has. Even if there's nothing specific, just having a general idea of which way the wind appears to be blowing at the moment is inside info enough.

You guys are spoiled brats. Enjoy the fact that we're lucky enough to have someone who has even a semblance of a connection to share with us. My goodness.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#43 » by NapoleonII » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:24 am

I honestly don't think Love/Lebron + Bledsoe and a bunch of youngin's is enough to beat the Spurs, OKC, GS or the Clippers.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#44 » by QuickLikeTheo » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:25 am

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Lebron will hear today the Suns last pitch.. He will then make the his decision. Once the decision is made, you'll see the Suns make multiples moves with it without Lebron.

I'm apologize for not being able to get into specifics, buts that what all I'm being told. Dragic future with the Suns depends on Lebron's decision.


Take it for what it's worth..


Well, at least we get one last shot. I for some reason can't see us moving Dragic if we get LeBron. But that would most likely be up to LeBron, so who knows.




My guesstimate

Lebron says yes scenario
1. Dragic, Morris brothers, 2015 wolves pick to Wolves for Love
2. Bledsoe resigned
3. Pau Gasol signed for 3 years 30 million
4. Ray Allen signed for 2 years for LLE
5. Tucker resigned

Lebron says no scenario
1. Deng for 3 years 35 million
2. Tucker signed and traded to either Grizzlies, Pistons
3. Green plus 2015 suns pick for Ryan Anderson
4. Ennis for Terrence Ross

In both scenarios Suns plan to have young players to play heaps of minutes as bench/back ups.

I don't like that no scenario


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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#45 » by BurningHeart » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:26 am

NapoleonII wrote:I honestly don't think Love/Lebron + Bledsoe and a bunch of youngin's is enough to beat the Spurs, OKC, GS or the Clippers.


I do. Handily.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#46 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:27 am

LukasBMW wrote:Lebron probably wants to create his own big 3 and it would mean moving Dragic for another player.

If we don't sign Lebron, we keep Dragic.

That makes sense to me.


I was kind of thinking the same. Dragic and LeBron both ball handlers (and Bledsoe), and then if we get them, we just keep one pg, and maybe try to trade Dragic for Love.

If no Lebron, it makes more sense to keep Dragic (we will have the money and we like two ballhandlers).

Losing Frye hurts Dragic's game, and the fact there are not really any stretch 4 free agents left, we really need to make a play for Love (and keep Dragic/Bledsoe) or possibly Anderson, Ilyasova or Millsap.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#47 » by chefsunsfan7 » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:28 am

BurningHeart wrote:
ChrisInAZ wrote:
What happened to the "bumpy ride" acoming?


It hasn't been very long since that post was made.

You people need to stop talking **** about Ray Ray.

#1) He's verified. There's a process that he goes through to prove the legitimacy of him and his sources.

#2) Many other insiders have came and went because they were treated like crap by spoiled, **** fans criticizing and doubting them.

#3) Ray Ray's posts are vague for a reason. Sometimes it's all he can divulge, sometimes it's all he has. Even if there's nothing specific, just having a general idea of which way the wind appears to be blowing at the moment is inside info enough.

You guys are spoiled brats. Enjoy the fact that we're lucky enough to have someone who has even a semblance of a connection to share with us. My goodness.


This. I've seen too many come and go. It's great to have them no matter how specific they are.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#48 » by Cutter » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:29 am

BurningHeart wrote:
ChrisInAZ wrote:
What happened to the "bumpy ride" acoming?


It hasn't been very long since that post was made.

You people need to stop talking **** about Ray Ray.

#1) He's verified. There's a process that he goes through to prove the legitimacy of him and his sources.

#2) Many other insiders have came and went because they were treated like crap by spoiled, **** fans criticizing and doubting them.

#3) Ray Ray's posts are vague for a reason. Sometimes it's all he can divulge, sometimes it's all he has. Even if there's nothing specific, just having a general idea of which way the wind appears to be blowing at the moment is inside info enough.

You guys are spoiled brats. Enjoy the fact that we're lucky enough to have someone who has even a semblance of a connection to share with us. My goodness.

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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#49 » by BobbieL » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:30 am

My guess: If LeBron comes to Phoenix, Dragic might be used to be traded for frontcourt help (Love?)

But, if LeBron does not come - Dragic stays

Going to be interesting - thanks for the information that you can share Ray Ray

All of this will finally come together - either way, I think Ryan McD is going to have an excellent team and roster that will compete for the playoffs and possibly a top 4 seed. And in the West - that is saying something.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#50 » by BobbieL » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:31 am

BurningHeart wrote:
ChrisInAZ wrote:
What happened to the "bumpy ride" acoming?


It hasn't been very long since that post was made.

You people need to stop talking **** about Ray Ray.

#1) He's verified. There's a process that he goes through to prove the legitimacy of him and his sources.

#2) Many other insiders have came and went because they were treated like crap by spoiled, **** fans criticizing and doubting them.

#3) Ray Ray's posts are vague for a reason. Sometimes it's all he can divulge, sometimes it's all he has. Even if there's nothing specific, just having a general idea of which way the wind appears to be blowing at the moment is inside info enough.

You guys are spoiled brats. Enjoy the fact that we're lucky enough to have someone who has even a semblance of a connection to share with us. My goodness.


Agreed. Ray Ray - please don't let people stop you from posting

Appreciate the information.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#51 » by Kerrsed » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:32 am

BurningHeart wrote:
ChrisInAZ wrote:
What happened to the "bumpy ride" acoming?


It hasn't been very long since that post was made.

You people need to stop talking **** about Ray Ray.

#1) He's verified. There's a process that he goes through to prove the legitimacy of him and his sources.

#2) Many other insiders have came and went because they were treated like crap by spoiled, **** fans criticizing and doubting them.

#3) Ray Ray's posts are vague for a reason. Sometimes it's all he can divulge, sometimes it's all he has. Even if there's nothing specific, just having a general idea of which way the wind appears to be blowing at the moment is inside info enough.

You guys are spoiled brats. Enjoy the fact that we're lucky enough to have someone who has even a semblance of a connection to share with us. My goodness.


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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#52 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:32 am

I love to see Ray Ray's posts, but the vetting thing doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, being that the only real way to vet an insiders info would be to call up someone in the Suns office or something, unless every single thing they said was specific and eventually happened.

Not saying I don't believe or trust Ray Ray, but I can't put my head around how you would vet someone leaking vague info.

But Ray Ray, keep em coming...I enjoy reading them!
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#53 » by King4Day » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:35 am

I forgot about Anderson. I wonder if that rumored deal from last week with Green and change for Anderson is still on the table and we can do it at any time.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#54 » by Kerrsed » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:37 am

bwgood77 wrote:I love to see Ray Ray's posts, but the vetting thing doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, being that the only real way to vet an insiders info would be to call up someone in the Suns office or something, unless every single thing they said was specific and eventually happened.

Not saying I don't believe or trust Ray Ray, but I can't put my head around how you would vet someone leaking vague info.

But Ray Ray, keep em coming...I enjoy reading them!


Lets just say that its a process. Research is done. Sometimes phone calls are made. Sometimes there is even juicier in depth info that is given to Mods that cant be leaked out to the board, that has come true.

If a person has been verified and vetted, their info and status is good.

As for the "Vague" part, sometimes the info is given to them vague and sometimes its just left vague to protect their source our the Suns overall interests in general. It would suck to leak something out that the league gets a hold of and backfires whatever great move we were making.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#55 » by NaturalBuns » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:37 am

DarkHawk wrote:I forgot about Anderson. I wonder if that rumored deal from last week with Green and change for Anderson is still on the table and we can do it at any time.



Could be tucker.
Remember the reports
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#56 » by Christine-In-AZ » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:38 am

BurningHeart wrote:
ChrisInAZ wrote:
What happened to the "bumpy ride" acoming?


It hasn't been very long since that post was made.

You people need to stop talking **** about Ray Ray.

#1) He's verified. There's a process that he goes through to prove the legitimacy of him and his sources.

#2) Many other insiders have came and went because they were treated like crap by spoiled, **** fans criticizing and doubting them.

#3) Ray Ray's posts are vague for a reason. Sometimes it's all he can divulge, sometimes it's all he has. Even if there's nothing specific, just having a general idea of which way the wind appears to be blowing at the moment is inside info enough.

You guys are spoiled brats. Enjoy the fact that we're lucky enough to have someone who has even a semblance of a connection to share with us. My goodness.


I didn't mean to imply that the "bumpy ride" was overdue, just that the bumpy ride post seemed to mean something specific was coming sometime soon...and then this last ray ray post returned to a very general nature/outlook. Just curious as to whyso
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#57 » by DirtyDez » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:38 am

1UPZ wrote:
matt131 wrote:
ray ray:
Lebron will hear today the Suns last pitch.. He will then make the his decision. Once the decision is made, you'll see the Suns make multiples moves with it without Lebron.

I'm apologize for not being able to get into specifics, buts that what all I'm being told. Dragic future with the Suns depends on Lebron's decision.


Take it for what it's worth..


Well, at least we get one last shot. I for some reason can't see us moving Dragic if we get LeBron. But that would most likely be up to LeBron, so who knows.




My guesstimate

Lebron says yes scenario
1. Dragic, Morris brothers, 2015 wolves pick to Wolves for Love
2. Bledsoe resigned
3. Pau Gasol signed for 3 years 30 million
4. Ray Allen signed for 2 years for LLE
5. Tucker resigned

Lebron says no scenario
1. Deng for 3 years 35 million
2. Tucker signed and traded to either Grizzlies, Pistons
3. Green plus 2015 suns pick for Ryan Anderson
4. Ennis for Terrence Ross

In both scenarios Suns plan to have young players to play heaps of minutes as bench/back ups.


If we trade Dragic and the twins for Love we can't afford 1 max contract let alone another 10m for Pau...
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#58 » by BobbieL » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:39 am

DarkHawk wrote:I forgot about Anderson. I wonder if that rumored deal from last week with Green and change for Anderson is still on the table and we can do it at any time.


I think the Suns will want a low post scorer if LeBron is not signed. Not a guy like Anderson

I think its Pau Gasol - two years 26m. Can pass out of the double team, score in the low box, good mentor
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#59 » by King4Day » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:42 am

NaturalBuns wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:I forgot about Anderson. I wonder if that rumored deal from last week with Green and change for Anderson is still on the table and we can do it at any time.



Could be tucker.
Remember the reports
"Some teams scared to offer pj because of suns matching"

Well pj for Anderson would make sense.


Man the Pelicans D would be insanely good with him, Davis, and Asik. Not sure how good Holiday and Gordon are defensively.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 4: Is The Dream Over? 

Post#60 » by Sunsdeuce » Tue Jul 8, 2014 12:42 am

BobbieL wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:I forgot about Anderson. I wonder if that rumored deal from last week with Green and change for Anderson is still on the table and we can do it at any time.


I think the Suns will want a low post scorer if LeBron is not signed. Not a guy like Anderson

I think its Pau Gasol - two years 26m. Can pass out of the double team, score in the low box, good mentor

Without lebron. No way gasol would sign with us.


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