Draft Thread: Who do you want with the 13th pick? Stanley Johnson and WCS added..change votes if you want

In Len We Trust · Post #41 » by **In Len We Trust** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:15 am

Draft Kyle Wiltjer from Gonzaga in the 2nd round. He has the potential to be an amazing stretch 4. 6'10 and probably the best shooter in the entire draft. Easily worth a 2nd round pick. Was a 5 star in HS.

DirtyDez · Post #42 » by **DirtyDez** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:01 am

DJ without Cp3 = Eww

I'd like to see them move the twins. Those guys don't have winning attitudes and don't really seem to care about anything besides scoring.

My dream draft would be Looney or Kaminsky to pair with Len. Possibly re-sign Wright if he's willing to backup Len for 3-4m a year...

Bledsoe
Knight
Warren
Kaminsky
Len

Goodwin
Bullock
Tucker
Wright
cheap FA

Post #43 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:17 am

My guess is most people here would hate Kaminsky. He is intriguing, but only because he had a monster game against AZ in the tourney last year. That ability to hit clutch threes can't be understated, but I don't know if he has the body to outmuscle guys AT ALL EVER in the NBA....he barely can come close to doing it in serious college play. He is a smart, good player, so if McD liked him and drafted him, I would be fine with it and happy to see what happened, but I wonder.

Myles Turner was, at one point, like to 3 or so in this class...seems like he was number one WAY back. I know he hasn't played a TON for Texas this year, but he is big and is sitting around the place where we will likely draft on the mocks. I need to watch him to get a feel, but I wonder if he is the guy. McD being more of a scout liking young guys with limited time in college, I can't see him drafting Kaminsky...but I can see him drafting Turner.

Turner is super raw...here is a video of him against Kentucky's frontcourt of Towns, Dakari Johnson and Willey Cauley Stein....so obviously it is tough....but keep in mind...this is one month into is frosh season...facing a juggernaut....he is going to be much better by end of college year.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Myles-Turner-72850/

NoKneeBledsoe · Post #44 » by **NoKneeBledsoe** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:20 am

What's everyone's infatuation with a stretch 4????????

I want a banger at the 4! If we can find another Amar'e from his son days and place that next to Len!!!!!

Screw this stretch 4 sit at 3 and not rebound crap!

Post #45 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:25 am

NoKneeBledsoe wrote:What's everyone's infatuation with a stretch 4????????

I want a banger at the 4! If we can find another Amar'e from his son days and place that next to Len!!!!!

Screw this stretch 4 sit at 3 and not rebound crap!

We all want bangers at the 4, but to not want him to be able to stretch means you haven't been following the trend of the nba. If you are getting 2 pt shots while others are getting 3s or easy baskets at the rim you are losing. This is why Houston is so good despite top notch talent outside of 1 player this year. You cannot have two players clogging the lane if you want to score pts at the rim at a good rate. It works for Memphis because Gasol can stretch to some extent to clear things up...he can hit from the ft line and they play very good D. All the other premier teams have stretch 4s and/or 5s.

DirtyDez · Post #46 » by **DirtyDez** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:37 am

Looney can play the Marion role plus knock down shots. It will take some time building his body but it can be done.

MrMiyagi · Post #47 » by **MrMiyagi** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:09 am

RONDAE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NoKneeBledsoe · Post #48 » by **NoKneeBledsoe** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:43 am

What would it take to trade up for Karl Towns???

Towns
Len

That would be a good Front Court!!!!

Sign Tobias Harris

Bledsoe
knight
Harris
towns
Len

Mr Puddles · Post #49 » by **Mr Puddles** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:57 am

NoKneeBledsoe wrote:What would it take to trade up for Karl Towns???

Towns
Len

That would be a good Front Court!!!!

Sign Tobias Harris

Bledsoe
knight
Harris
towns
Len

If the Kings get lucky in the lottery and land the number 2 pick I wouldn't be surprised if they'd be looking to trade it. Something around the Morris Brothers, our number 13-14, and the top 7 protected heat pick might tickle their fancy. Then sign a guy like Brandon Bass, Amir Johnson, or Ed Davis to come off the bench.

Bledsoe / Goodwin
Knight / Tucker
Tucker / Warren
Towns / Davis
Len / Wright

AtheJ415 · Post #50 » by **AtheJ415** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:30 pm

Kaminskys the guy I'd want in that early teen range. He's a perfect fit for us. 7'er with 3 point shot and the ability to score in different ways.

NoKneeBledsoe · Post #51 » by **NoKneeBledsoe** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:11 pm

Mr Puddles wrote:
NoKneeBledsoe wrote:What would it take to trade up for Karl Towns???

Towns
Len

That would be a good Front Court!!!!

Sign Tobias Harris

Bledsoe
knight
Harris
towns
Len

If the Kings get lucky in the lottery and land the number 2 pick I wouldn't be surprised if they'd be looking to trade it. Something around the Morris Brothers, our number 13-14, and the top 7 protected heat pick might tickle their fancy. Then sign a guy like Brandon Bass, Amir Johnson, or Ed Davis to come off the bench.

Bledsoe / Goodwin
Knight / Tucker
Tucker / Warren
Towns / Davis
Len / Wright

I say trade all that you mentioned but max out Butler, Leonard, or Harris

Bledsoe / Veteran PG
Knight / Goodwin
Butler or Leonard or Harris / Tucker / Warren
Towns / Wright
Len / Draft Dakari with late pick

That is youth to build on

kennydorglas · Post #52 » by **kennydorglas** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:25 pm

NoKneeBledsoe wrote:
Mr Puddles wrote:
NoKneeBledsoe wrote:What would it take to trade up for Karl Towns???

Towns
Len

That would be a good Front Court!!!!

Sign Tobias Harris

Bledsoe
knight
Harris
towns
Len

If the Kings get lucky in the lottery and land the number 2 pick I wouldn't be surprised if they'd be looking to trade it. Something around the Morris Brothers, our number 13-14, and the top 7 protected heat pick might tickle their fancy. Then sign a guy like Brandon Bass, Amir Johnson, or Ed Davis to come off the bench.

Bledsoe / Goodwin
Knight / Tucker
Tucker / Warren
Towns / Davis
Len / Wright

I say trade all that you mentioned but max out Butler, Leonard, or Harris

Bledsoe / Veteran PG
Knight / Goodwin
Butler or Leonard or Harris / Tucker / Warren
Towns / Wright
Len / Draft Dakari with late pick

That is youth to build on

I really like it. Especially for packing the MoBros and getting my man KTJr.
This team would be amazing, even without a premier SF.

Post #53 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:12 am

If you're in the scouting mood, you might want to check out Bobby Portis on ESPN right now. He could be an option for us with our first pick. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Bobby-Portis-7167/
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/bobby-portis

Edit: Just decided to see where Ford had him ranked and noticed he had a mock draft up. Must have been from a few days back because he had us with the 17th pick....but he actually had us taking Portis:

Bobby PortisPhoenix SunsCOLLEGE: ArkansasHT: 6-11WT: 231POS: PF
The Suns have a glut of riches in their backcourt but are still looking for more help in the frontcourt. Portis is quietly having a terrific sophomore season at Arkansas. While he isn't the type of player who floors you with any one skill, he does just about everything well, and that midrange game is especially potent for a big man his age.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft/mock/

DX has him going 20th and nbadraft.net 15th.

kennydorglas · Post #54 » by **kennydorglas** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:29 pm

I really like Portis. Analytics and eye-test support this guy.

He's probably our best option.

jcsunsfan · Post #55 » by **jcsunsfan** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 4:32 pm

Trade for Embiid? I think he could be a pf. That kid has talent and a learning curve like nothing else. He could be a Tim Duncan type of pf. I have no doubt he could develop a 10-15 foot shot that is money.

The Suns future. 2 pgs, 2 centers and a wing.

thamadkant · Post #56 » by **thamadkant** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:09 pm

1. Trading up to the top 7 was also mentioned last year and it never happened. Suns could have 3 first rounders, but unless one of them is a top 12 pick, its very difficult to consolidate picks into a top 7 pick. Established players that are young can net a top 7 pick however. Out of the Suns players these players can get a top 7 pick, Bledsoe OR Len.
So trading up for a top 5 pick to grab Towns is almost a dream scenario...

2. Suns will most likely pick 13th, at that range I'd grab a Looney. But he is likely to be a Terence Jones-clone and Jones can be had for lesser assets, once Howard is healthy.

If I was McD.... I would package 13th pick and an asset to go up and try to nab Myles Turner, I expect him to be around the 8-11 pick range.

Pick 13 + a future lottery protected pick (Suns) would be my offer.

Myles Turner can play PF/C next to Len, will compliment Len, as Len is developing a front face jump shot. In a 2-3 years time these two could be one of the better big men duos defensively/offensively combined.

NoKneeBledsoe · Post #57 » by **NoKneeBledsoe** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:25 pm

I am actually intrigued with Turner! He is a big with good shooting touch and is young.

Good at FT's from this clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gS3HsRxpPY

No-Man · Post #58 » by **No-Man** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:01 pm

In case anybody is interested, my last Mock right now,

select...Jahlil Okafor C Duke

select...Emmanuel Mudiay PG/SG Congo

select...Karl Towns PF/C Kentucky

select...D'Angelo Russell PG/SG Ohio St.

select...Kristaps Porzingis PF Latvia

select...Justise Winslow SG/SF Duke

select...Mario Hezonja SG/SF Croatia

select...Stanley Johnson SG/SF Arizona

select...Kelly Oubre SG/SF Kansas

select...Devin Booker SG Kentucky

select...Tyus Jones PG Duke

select...Myles Turner PF/C Texas

select...Jakob Poeltl C Utah

select...Frank Kaminsky PF/C Wisconsin

select...Bobby Portis PF/C Arkansas

select...Trey Lyles SF/PF Kentucky

select...Willie Cauley-Stein C Kentucky

select...Jordan Mickey PF LSU

select...Kris Dunn PG Providence

select...Damian Jones PF/C Vanderbilt

select...Kevon Looney SF/PF UCLA

select...Rondae Hollis-Jefferson SG/SF Arizona

select...Cliff Alexander PF/C Kansas

select...Montrezl Harrell PF Louisville

select...Delon Wright PG/SG Utah

select...Jerian Grant PG/SG Notre Dame

select...Terry Rozier PG/SG Louisville

select...Jarell Martin SF/PF LSU

select...Caris LeVert SG Michigan

select...Justin Anderson SG/SF Virginia

Other possible 1st rounders

Rysheed Jordan
Dakari Johnson
Nigel Williams-Goss
Jake Layman
Isaiah Taylor
Guillermo Hernangómez
Brandon Ashley
Christian Wood
George Lucas
Timothe Luwawu
Ron Baker
RJ Hunter
Moussa Diagne
Sam Dekker
Robert Upshaw
Norman Powell
Terran Petteway
Tyrone Wallace
Aaron Harrison
Malik Pope
Jonathan Holmes

Desert_Devil · Post #59 » by **Desert_Devil** » Thu Feb 26, 2015 1:38 pm

Willie Cauley-Stein. He's exactly what the Suns need: a big who can rebound and defend all three frontcount positions. Yes, he can't shoot from the perimeter, but this team needs defenders in the worst way.

mikefly3113 · Post #60 » by **mikefly3113** » Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:34 pm

All you UofA homers need to cool it with Rondae. I'm not ragging on the guy I think he is a solid player and will do well in the NBA but we don't need him. We'll have Tucker, Archie, and Warren all on the team next year and could potentially make a free agent splash for a guy like Tobias Harris. We've got to go big this year, We could use on interior defense and scoring. There is going to be great value in the middle of the round just looking at that mock Turner, Kaminsky, Cauley-Stein, etc.

I go Cauley-stein. Could be a great role playing big who defends and rebounds, Ideal for Len's backup.

Which three guys would you most like to draft if they are there at 13?