Western Conference Outlook

sunstrooper · Post #41 » by **sunstrooper** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 4:35 pm

I think the Spurs will destroy everything in sight this season and i'm still not sold the Warriors are the real thing. I also think the Fakers will be pushed up hard in the Kobe's probably final season.

1. Spurs
2. Grizzlies
3. Warriors
4. Rockets
5. Clippers
6. Thunder
7. Pelicans
8. Suns

Jazz
Lakers
Mavs
Wolves
Blazers
Kings
Nuggets

Damkac · Post #42 » by **Damkac** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:02 pm

Warriors just won championship, how can they not be "the real thing"?

Funky Tut wrote:
ATTL wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
You are crazy, we will struggle to get to 30 wins with this **** squad.

And somehow still get the 13th pick.

I think Utah will be better than new Orleans thus year.

If we won 15 games we'd still end up with the 13th pick somehow.

Hope it also works opposite way: Suns are top team in the league and still pick at 13th 8-)

sunstrooper · Post #43 » by **sunstrooper** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:16 pm

The Miami Clowns got two as free gifts. Were they the real thing?

Damkac · Post #44 » by **Damkac** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 7:54 pm

Don't know what you mean by "the real thing" or why Miami got championships "as free gifts"

sunstrooper · Post #45 » by **sunstrooper** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:23 pm

Apart from the warriors' "screens issue", they took a ridiculous amount of shots (mainly 3's) that were absolutely bad shot selections, but somehow went in. You think that's going to be the case for years in a row? Moreover - opponents adjust and many of this shots will face designed defensive plays this year. My point is GS got on the top thanks to "unfundamental" basketball and that cannot last.
About Miami - I am surprised you need any clarification. I remember a writer from Hoops...something (now bballinsiders) even wrote an article where he proclaimed LeClown was the best defender in the world because he could push, hit and slap opponents and never be called for it.

plonden · Post #46 » by **plonden** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:41 pm

sunstrooper wrote:Apart from the warriors' "screens issue", they took a ridiculous amount of shots (mainly 3's) that were absolutely bad shot selections, but somehow went in. You think that's going to be the case for years in a row? Moreover - opponents adjust and many of this shots will face designed defensive plays this year. My point is GS got on the top thanks to "unfundamental" basketball and that cannot last.

Antiquated. I thought that GSW's championship was going to put this nonsense to bed once and for all. They beat New Orleans, Memphis, and Houston in consecutive seven game series to get to the NBA Finals. Then, they overcome one of, if not the, greatest individual finals performances in history to claim the title. GSW had the league's best regular season record (67-15). They had the best defense in the league and the second-best offense in the league. How is that "unfundamental"?

sunstrooper wrote:About Miami - I am surprised you need any clarification. I remember a writer from Hoops...something (now bballinsiders) even wrote an article where he proclaimed LeClown was the best defender in the world because he could push, hit and slap opponents and never be called for it.

More nonsense. Obviously Lebron gets the benefit of the doubt because he's a superstar. Lots of players get the superstar treatment. But that doesn't make their titles "gifts." You ignore the fact that Miami beat two great teams to win those titles (OKC, SAS). And if Lebron is "gifted titles" why is he 2-6 in the NBA Finals?

But to answer your question--yes, both Golden State and the two Miami teams were the "real thing."

sunstrooper · Post #47 » by **sunstrooper** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:58 pm

You'll never get it, do you? LeClown and the likes don't get the ridiculous ref treatment because they are "stars"...they are "stars" because they get the ridiculous ref treatment. If you are unable to comprehend this there is no point talking basketball, because you're watching something else.
I'm done spamming this thread and I appologise for doing that.

plonden · Post #48 » by **plonden** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:05 pm

sunstrooper wrote:You'll never get it, do you? LeClown and the likes don't get the ridiculous ref treatment because they are "stars"...they are "stars" because they get the ridiculous ref treatment. If you are unable to comprehend this there is no point talking basketball, because you're watching something else.

That is absurd. Lebron is a star because he is intelligent, skilled, and an absolute physical freak. You think Jared Dudley would lead the 2014-15 Cavs to the Finals if he got superstar calls?

Post #49 » by **bwgood77** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:05 pm

plonden wrote:
sunstrooper wrote:Apart from the warriors' "screens issue", they took a ridiculous amount of shots (mainly 3's) that were absolutely bad shot selections, but somehow went in. You think that's going to be the case for years in a row? Moreover - opponents adjust and many of this shots will face designed defensive plays this year. My point is GS got on the top thanks to "unfundamental" basketball and that cannot last.

Antiquated. I thought that GSW's championship was going to put this nonsense to bed once and for all. They beat New Orleans, Memphis, and Houston in consecutive seven game series to get to the NBA Finals. Then, they overcome one of, if not the, greatest individual finals performances in history to claim the title. GSW had the league's best regular season record (67-15). They had the best defense in the league and the second-best offense in the league. How is that "unfundamental"?

sunstrooper wrote:About Miami - I am surprised you need any clarification. I remember a writer from Hoops...something (now bballinsiders) even wrote an article where he proclaimed LeClown was the best defender in the world because he could push, hit and slap opponents and never be called for it.

More nonsense. Obviously Lebron gets the benefit of the doubt because he's a superstar. Lots of players get the superstar treatment. But that doesn't make their titles "gifts." You ignore the fact that Miami beat two great teams to win those titles (OKC, SAS). And if Lebron is "gifted titles" why is he 2-6 in the NBA Finals?

But to answer your question--yes, both Golden State and the two Miami teams were the "real thing."

If Los Soles posts in the GS SSOL thread don't convince someone, they won't be convinced.

Damkac · Post #50 » by **Damkac** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:27 pm

plonden wrote:
sunstrooper wrote:You'll never get it, do you? LeClown and the likes don't get the ridiculous ref treatment because they are "stars"...they are "stars" because they get the ridiculous ref treatment. If you are unable to comprehend this there is no point talking basketball, because you're watching something else.

That is absurd. Lebron is a star because he is intelligent, skilled, and an absolute physical freak. You think Jared Dudley would lead the 2014-15 Cavs to the Finals if he got superstar calls?

I hate LeBron with passion but this is absolute absurd.

Walt_Uoob · Post #51 » by **Walt_Uoob** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:47 pm

Anyone have a favorite site for up to date depth charts?

Post #52 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 7:49 pm

Any changes to your picks?

RaisingArizona · Post #53 » by **RaisingArizona** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 7:54 pm

Something is telling me 51. Maybe it's because of Randy Johnson but what the hell? 51.

MrMiyagi · Post #54 » by **MrMiyagi** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 8:00 pm

I'm still feeling we break 50. Especially with Jon Leuer :rocking:

RaisingArizona · Post #55 » by **RaisingArizona** » Thu Oct 8, 2015 8:06 pm

I'm honestly most excited about Knight and Bledsoe's progress. We didn't get to see them together much last year at all.

Post #56 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Oct 9, 2015 4:45 am

sunstrooper wrote:I think the Spurs will destroy everything in sight this season and i'm still not sold the Warriors are the real thing. I also think the Fakers will be pushed up hard in the Kobe's probably final season.

1. Spurs
2. Grizzlies
3. Warriors
4. Rockets
5. Clippers
6. Thunder
7. Pelicans
8. Suns

Jazz
Lakers
Mavs
Wolves
Blazers
Kings
Nuggets

The Spurs will toil in agony as they realize they have a washed up PG, and LMA needing his touches marginalizes the old Tim Duncan. Things will be out of sorts...Kawhi will be confused thinking he is the man but LMA only thrives when HE is the man...thus the communication breaks down and they fold.

That's my dream. But they will work it out somehow and be like the 3 seed. If they are the 3 seed, I hope they meet the OKC Thunder in the final four (unless we somehow fight our way in there) and that OKC destroys them, destroy GS, and destroys the Cavs.

MrMiyagi · Post #57 » by **MrMiyagi** » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:49 am

bwgood77 wrote:
sunstrooper wrote:I think the Spurs will destroy everything in sight this season and i'm still not sold the Warriors are the real thing. I also think the Fakers will be pushed up hard in the Kobe's probably final season.

1. Spurs
2. Grizzlies
3. Warriors
4. Rockets
5. Clippers
6. Thunder
7. Pelicans
8. Suns

Jazz
Lakers
Mavs
Wolves
Blazers
Kings
Nuggets

The Spurs will toil in agony as they realize they have a washed up PG, and LMA needing his touches marginalizes the old Tim Duncan. Things will be out of sorts...Kawhi will be confused thinking he is the man but LMA only thrives when HE is the man...thus the communication breaks down and they fold.

That's my dream. But they will work it out somehow and be like the 3 seed. If they are the 3 seed, I hope they meet the OKC Thunder in the final four (unless we somehow fight our way in there) and that OKC destroys them, destroy GS, and destroys the Cavs.

LMA should be the one whose role is marginalized, causing the Spurs to rely on Timmy to eek them into the playoffs, but they lost too much ground trying to keep LMA happy. (I have Duncan on my fantasy team. Please let him do well, it's my first season playing)

Post #58 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:40 pm

MrMiyagi wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
sunstrooper wrote:I think the Spurs will destroy everything in sight this season and i'm still not sold the Warriors are the real thing. I also think the Fakers will be pushed up hard in the Kobe's probably final season.

1. Spurs
2. Grizzlies
3. Warriors
4. Rockets
5. Clippers
6. Thunder
7. Pelicans
8. Suns

Jazz
Lakers
Mavs
Wolves
Blazers
Kings
Nuggets

The Spurs will toil in agony as they realize they have a washed up PG, and LMA needing his touches marginalizes the old Tim Duncan. Things will be out of sorts...Kawhi will be confused thinking he is the man but LMA only thrives when HE is the man...thus the communication breaks down and they fold.

That's my dream. But they will work it out somehow and be like the 3 seed. If they are the 3 seed, I hope they meet the OKC Thunder in the final four (unless we somehow fight our way in there) and that OKC destroys them, destroy GS, and destroys the Cavs.

LMA should be the one whose role is marginalized, causing the Spurs to rely on Timmy to eek them into the playoffs, but they lost too much ground trying to keep LMA happy. (I have Duncan on my fantasy team. Please let him do well, it's my first season playing)

I stayed away from Duncan because of LMA. Not sure where you took him but even last year he was probably a third or fourth rounder, so if you took him later, that's not bad. But I expect his minutes and points to go down. Blocks and boards should stay somewhat consistent and maybe even more assists.

At some point he's got to really fall off though. I mean, he can't keep this up forever.

Phystic · Post #59 » by **Phystic** » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:10 pm

Man, I just read sunstrooper's posts in this thread. Good lord that's a lot of BS for one person to spew.

Anyway, LMA will definitely impact Duncan but I don't see many people mentioning West here. Adding West and LMA to Duncan will definitely cause Duncan to fall off because he simply won't be needed to control their frontcourt.

As for the Suns, it's really hard to say. I haven't watched a preseason game yet but if the chemistry stays there throughout the season and Chandler has the impact that all the talking heads are saying he has had, then I think 50 could happen.

MrMiyagi · Post #60 » by **MrMiyagi** » Sat Oct 10, 2015 11:46 pm

Phystic wrote:Man, I just read sunstrooper's posts in this thread. Good lord that's a lot of BS for one person to spew.

Anyway, LMA will definitely impact Duncan but I don't see many people mentioning West here. Adding West and LMA to Duncan will definitely cause Duncan to fall off because he simply won't be needed to control their frontcourt.

As for the Suns, it's really hard to say. I haven't watched a preseason game yet but if the chemistry stays there throughout the season and Chandler has the impact that all the talking heads are saying he has had, then I think 50 could happen.

But Timmy and Pop are besties. Timmy's gotta show LMA how it's done before he takes over. I expect Timmy to put up similar numbers to last season.

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